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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I think we all understand that. $80 didn't buy as much in 1980 as it did in 1960, either. Understanding the rate of price increase, and the factors of those increases, is the next step, hench my reference to the CPI. One person's experience is anecdotal. More than that becomes data, and enough data analyzed scientifically becomes information, which is actually useful.



    Question on part of your statement. What goods do you think we can domestically mass produce economically enough to displace the import of cheap foreign goods?

    Shoes, socks, clothing/textiles in general. Shitcan the unions or not have them involved (Toyota?) and hopefully we could once again have competitive pricing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Shoes, socks, clothing/textiles in general. Shitcan the unions or not have them involved (Toyota?) and hopefully we could once again have competitive pricing.
    Assuming success in de-unionizing the workforce (not a small effort), do you intend that these new and reopened factories pay the prevailing minimum wage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Assuming success in de-unionizing the workforce (not a small effort), do you intend that these new and reopened factories pay the prevailing minimum wage?

    Have to for success. An idea i would sign on to is become shareholders. We produce and profit, everyone does. This gives incentive for success and with todays social media (for those who use it) Think of the buzz when people say what they did has made them profitable.
    Profit sharing worked with 2 small business i was involved in. Give an employee pride for their craft and hope they continue to grow.


    Remember that commercial many years ago.
    LOOK FOR THE UNION LABEL.
    Translate that slogan in to some small business motto.
    Pride in ownership, pride in your craftsmanship, Pride in general that is what builds, or use to build, American companies
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Have to for success. An idea i would sign on to is become shareholders. We produce and profit, everyone does. This gives incentive for success and with todays social media (for those who use it) Think of the buzz when people say what they did has made them profitable.
    Profit sharing worked with 2 small business i was involved in. Give an employee pride for their craft and hope they continue to grow.


    Remember that commercial many years ago.
    LOOK FOR THE UNION LABEL.
    Translate that slogan in to some small business motto.
    Pride in ownership, pride in your craftsmanship, Pride in general that is what builds, or use to build, American companies
    Interesting and commendable plan. I'm not sure how successful you can be, in that unless you're producing cheaply enough to equal or beat Chinese and Indian import prices, you're not going to be competitive. Second, you (and I mean this revitalized industry as a whole) will need to have large enough workforce available to produce to the level required.

    And unfortunately, nothing prevents the foreign imports from cutting their costs to become more competitive, especially if they have government support. I don't think we'll ever bring low-cost, labor intensive industries back to the US. That's not our forte anymore. High-tech, innovative industries with a technical advantage or high-barrier to entry are the areas we need to grow. That's going to take an educated workforce.

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    Unfortunately our Pride in craftsmanship combined with a less than educated work force puts a damper on things.
    HOWEVER I can utilize 2 resources that also absorb part of wages until X time into their employment.
    1) Disabled vets are offered job services and educational benefits until age 60.

    2) OTJ. State and county work force centers offer the On the Job training program to qualified people. The cover up to 50% of thei rwages for X amount of time on the job.

    3) Welfare office does or use to do incentive programs to get people back in to the work force too.

    There are Fed, state and cty programs as well as grants to get people back to work or retrained. Again unfortunately the people who want to do things like this are in my age bracket 55+ . Kids (18-30) don't want to or not interested in jobs where skills are what make the person, as a generalization.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Interesting and commendable plan. I'm not sure how successful you can be, in that unless you're producing cheaply enough to equal or beat Chinese and Indian import prices, you're not going to be competitive. Second, you (and I mean this revitalized industry as a whole) will need to have large enough workforce available to produce to the level required.

    And unfortunately, nothing prevents the foreign imports from cutting their costs to become more competitive, especially if they have government support. I don't think we'll ever bring low-cost, labor intensive industries back to the US. That's not our forte anymore. High-tech, innovative industries with a technical advantage or high-barrier to entry are the areas we need to grow. That's going to take an educated workforce.
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