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    Was his last name Rearden?
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    I can reply a little bit on this on material costs.

    I'm only an owner with 1 employee. I do notice the steel costs move around. I only try to buy once a yr and order everything I think I need. Keeps it down. But as mentioned, I only order once, twice a yr and only spend about $2k.

    You know really kills me!? Abrasives! Grinding disks, sand paper, etc. I have them broke down into individual sheets, but we still have to keep track of them. By far my biggest expense. Bet it's all of $300 a month.

    And I'm a super small shop!! Can't imagine having 100 employees!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Was his last name Rearden?
    sure was...


    no, the company was something like COE

    guys name was Hunter, can't forget a name like that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    Over regulated as in EPA, OSHA etc on condition, material processing, waste etc. For a quick eye opening, talk to your local 'chrome plating' guys, or stainless steel fabricators.

    I know a major catalytic converter manufacturer that was shut down for a month because one day OSHA decided that the whole ventilation system is not sufficient after passing them just few weeks before hence.

    Look at what EPA is doing at the moment. All promised and brought to you by....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...NUZVv0A0#t=62s
    Yeah, the EPA and OSHA may go overboard every once in a while, but I'd argue that overall the rules and regs are there for just reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberjager View Post
    Yeah, the EPA and OSHA may go overboard every once in a while, but I'd argue that overall the rules and regs are there for just reasons.
    bahahahahahahahahahahahaha


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    bahahahahahahahahahahahaha


    You went to government school didn't you????????
    That is funny isn't it.

    The tasks assigned to OSHA and the EPA should be severely curtailed and reassigned at the state level. Federal agencies disallow freedom of choice for people and businesses. Each state should be making their own decisions, that way if an individual or business does not like the rules in the state they are in you can move to a state with different regulations, freedom of choice and freedom of movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    That is funny isn't it.

    The tasks assigned to OSHA and the EPA should be severely curtailed and reassigned at the state level. Federal agencies disallow freedom of choice for people and businesses. Each state should be making their own decisions, that way if an individual or business does not like the rules in the state they are in you can move to a state with different regulations, freedom of choice and freedom of movement.
    Exactly. Then we would see states struggle and maybe they would change their ways because they need the tax revenue. At the fed level the businesses just bail to another country and the fed proposes more income taxes!
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    So did Obama start this EPA within the last 4 years? Rhetorical question and I'm not sticking up for Obama, just trying to shed some light on how the problem is bigger than who we elect for president every 4yrs.
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    OSHA CAN be at the state level. California, New Mexico and several others have their own state run OSHA. Just takes the state grabbing the reins instead of letting the Feds run it. I've worked on cases for both state and Fed OSHA, and their are pros and cons to each.

    Small business IS being crushed, and I own two of them. The amount of time and expense it takes to "stay legal" is amazing, and rising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    So did Obama start this EPA within the last 4 years? Rhetorical question and I'm not sticking up for Obama, just trying to shed some light on how the problem is bigger than who we elect for president every 4yrs.
    Oh you're right, the problems caused by the federal government are enormous and they go back to the early 1900s, probably before that.

    What we need to do is convince 45% of the voting public that the federal government is the problem and not the solution. Then we will see some change. I try everyday but people are conditioned to having the government do everything and they refuse to listen to reason, deliberate ignorance in order to avoid concerning themselves with the nations business.

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