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  • YES: Legalize pot in CO.

    59 51.75%
  • NO: Do not legalize pot in CO.

    55 48.25%
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    Now we can look at dueling 64 polls. Who's going to win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedysst View Post
    First of all it should ABSOLUTELY NOT be a Constitutional ammendment. It can be handled statuatorily. Second, funding schools by selling drugs seems a bit nefarious. Third, are people prepared to legalize meth and/or heroin because pot MIGHT be a gateway drug? It may not be but if it turns out that it is, then the push to legalize harder drugs and "tax" them will happen. Also, if all this bullshit is legalized because Americans are obsessed with intoxicants (this includes energy drinks), then NO tax funding for addiction treatment. Just my .02.
    why, gambling helps fund community colleges. amendment 50 passed in 2008. the $$ has been short of predictions but there is still a supply of money helping educate the youth in CO.

    Please post any medical data that says Pot is a gateway drug? What about alcohol? is it a gateway drug to pot, or ecstasy, or unplanned pregnancy?
    How about the personal responsibility? Why does the .gov need to tell you what you can out into your own body as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. There can be restrictions on where it can be smoked, how it is transported, not bringing it onto school property...much like concealed carry laws except that we are making a criminal safe zone by telling people they can't bring their weed into an elementary because they can't smoke it inside to defend the kids if a guy starts shooting up the place...

    We are already taxed on gas, soda, you get taxed/raped very year on your license plates, you get taxed to live where you want, own what you want, drink what you want etc.

    I agree on no tax funding for addiction treatment, medical problems that arise from over use, or actions taken while under the influence of said drugs/intoxicants. That is about personal responsibility. If you are responsible with your habits and make sound decisions, it shouldn't be an issue.
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    Why shouldn't taxes from weed be used for treatment? It'd be a much better use than just chucking people into jails and prisons. Plus, just telling someone, "hey guy, just be responsible." isn't going to solve any real substance abuse issues.

    I'm not on board with the extra taxes, or the state only considering this because they know they'll make money off the taxes, but as far as uses go, treatment isn't the worst way to use the money. If you eliminate treatment, then the government will just use the money on something else that you agree just as much with.
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    Not necessarily against it. But I'm against it as a constitutional amendment. No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Why shouldn't taxes from weed be used for treatment? It'd be a much better use than just chucking people into jails and prisons. Plus, just telling someone, "hey guy, just be responsible." isn't going to solve any real substance abuse issues.

    I'm not on board with the extra taxes, or the state only considering this because they know they'll make money off the taxes, but as far as uses go, treatment isn't the worst way to use the money. If you eliminate treatment, then the government will just use the money on something else that you agree just as much with.
    How far will this "treatment" be expanded? is there a timeframe, a dollar limit, a one time only plan? Their actions have consequences that need to be paid for out of pocket, not with tax dollars. Should we force everyone to pay more taxes because a select few can't handle their responsibilities? Should your guns have more taxes placed on them to help murder suspects get treatment?

    People that have a drinking or drug or addiction problem can be helped, but it can go far beyond what is fair to the others. The taxes should be used for schools and keeping students educated to make good life choices and let them know their actions have consequences and they need to be responsible adults. That or put away into savings for the bad times, or to reduce other taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    How far will this "treatment" be expanded? is there a timeframe, a dollar limit, a one time only plan? Their actions have consequences that need to be paid for out of pocket, not with tax dollars. Should we force everyone to pay more taxes because a select few can't handle their responsibilities? Should your guns have more taxes placed on them to help murder suspects get treatment?
    That's just the hang up. Should people with kids in schools be paying to have them get a good education? No matter what the money goes to, the argument can be made that the people receiving that money for services should be paying for it themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    That's just the hang up. Should people with kids in schools be paying to have them get a good education? No matter what the money goes to, the argument can be made that the people receiving that money for services should be paying for it themselves.
    I'm all for that. Pay for service. no taxes taken out at all from my income or where I live. Only taxes should be on what I use. the programs that never get used will suffer, the ones that are over-used and underfunded will see gains. things will equal out.

    That would help the schools a lot, because the damn illegals with 4 families to a home and only paying property taxes for 1 house would not get the benefit of free school for their kids, a lot of which get extra attention in ESL classes. Each kid has to pay to play type of thing. The legal families that choose to have more kids know they will be paying more for school. Just like todays parents worrying about paying for college....you just no longer have 18 years to figure out how to pay for it.

    Is that fair? some say no. but is it also fair that people who never had kids have to pay for education through their property taxes?


    UNFORTUNATELY....that isn't the way this will work out and will not happen. so in the mean time, tax the weed, use the funding to offset the cost of educating our youth and put the rest away for a rainy day.
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    I don't think any funding should go to college though. Too many people already go to college as it is, and they are only encouraging more. That's a different conversation though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Too many people already go to college as it is
    - I don't even know where to begin on that one!

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    I believe they are making it an state amendment because if it was just a law then Federal > State. I do not know how Federal law stands up against a states constitution (assuming that it isn't an unconstitutional amendment), but I assume that is why it is an amendment.

    Here is an article about Portugal, they decriminalized everything years ago and this talks about the results they are seeing.

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