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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Yes when that stance is a refusal to do your constitutionally mandated job.
    So, if a congressman pledges that he will not raise taxes, he is violating the constitution. Utter nonsense.

    By your logic, if a congress didn't establish any new post offices or post roads, they would be in violation of the constitution. There are already post offices/roads in place, what if we didn't need any new ones? Must congress establish one just because it's their "constitutional duty" as laid out in Article 1, Section 8? Heaven forbid a congressman sign a pledge that states he won't build any new ones. That would just be treasonous.
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    Incoherence is all we've been getting from nynco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post

    Holohaus.... do you honestly think that 1.2 trillion is enough?
    More than enough. The government has a problem with SPENDING too much. When I have a problem spending too much, I don't demand others give me more money so I can fix it. I fix it by reducing my spending.

    Governmental deficit spending should be illegal.

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    So the largest expenditure in the budget is the military. You ready to cut what is not needed? Endless war costs money. I would end the war on drugs. I would also pull out of half the crap holes we are in now. I would also bring back tariffs.

    Gov deficit spending should be illegal? lol Tell that to Washington that is how our nation was founded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    So, if a congressman pledges that he will not raise taxes, he is violating the constitution. Utter nonsense.

    By your logic, if a congress didn't establish any new post offices or post roads, they would be in violation of the constitution. There are already post offices/roads in place, what if we didn't need any new ones? Must congress establish one just because it's their "constitutional duty" as laid out in Article 1, Section 8? Heaven forbid a congressman sign a pledge that states he won't build any new ones. That would just be treasonous.
    If a congressman pledges to an outside entity that he will not do his constitutionally mandated duty then yes it is just what I assert. The pledge is the proof. Like I said either they denounce that pledge or they get booted out of congress for breaking their constitution oath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    If a congressman pledges to an outside entity that he will not do his constitutionally mandated duty then yes it is just what I assert. The pledge is the proof. Like I said either they denounce that pledge or they get booted out of congress for breaking their constitution oath.
    I knew you wouldn't answer the question directly. I'm done for the night. I'm going to see Killswitch at the Fox in Boulder. I'm sure your insanity will be here waiting for me when I get back later this weekend.

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    The largest single expenditure is the budget, the largest portion of the budget is taken up by entitlements, however.

    How about we just cut everything until the budget is balanced, in equal %s?

    Also: please, lets hurdle off the fiscal cliff. Only in the government could $100 billion of cuts with a deficit of $1 tillion be considered a disaster.

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    Have a nice time at the Fox Theater. I did answer the question directly. Try rereading what I said with a clear head. Perhaps a few hours in the mosh pit will get some of that pent up anger out.

    If a soldier signs a pledge that they will not follow the orders of the president, which is the duty they swore to, then that would be treason. It is NO DIFFERENT when Congress signs a pledge to an individual or entity that they will not do their job. They can not raise taxes all they want. That is their choice. To sign an OATH not to raise taxes but instead abdicate to Grover Norquists pledge is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
    Last edited by nynco; 11-30-2012 at 18:10.

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    What don't you get about taking a pledge not to raise taxes does not violate the oath they took?

    And your statement about the military being the largest expenditure is false. At least according to the CBO.

    http://www.cbo.gov/publication/42636
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    The largest single expenditure is the budget, the largest portion of the budget is taken up by entitlements, however.

    How about we just cut everything until the budget is balanced, in equal %s?

    Also: please, lets hurdle off the fiscal cliff. Only in the government could $100 billion of cuts with a deficit of $1 tillion be considered a disaster.
    Soc Securtity is not paid for by general taxes. It is not an entitlement.

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