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    It's called the Supremacy Clause:

    "Article VI, Section 2, of the U.S. Constitution is known as the Supremacy Clause because it provides that the "Constitution, and the Laws of the United States … shall be the supreme Law of the Land." It means that the federal government, in exercising any of the powers enumerated in the Constitution, must prevail over any conflicting or inconsistent state exercise of power."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorDG View Post
    It's called the Supremacy Clause:

    "Article VI, Section 2, of the U.S. Constitution is known as the Supremacy Clause because it provides that the "Constitution, and the Laws of the United States … shall be the supreme Law of the Land." It means that the federal government, in exercising any of the powers enumerated in the Constitution, must prevail over any conflicting or inconsistent state exercise of power."

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    The 2A is not an enumerated power of congress. The 2A is supposed to prevent the central government from infringing on the right of the individual to keep and bear arms. Are you saying that if the central government can't do it, the states can't either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    The 2A is not an enumerated power of congress. The 2A is supposed to prevent the central government from infringing on the right of the individual to keep and bear arms. Are you saying that if the central government can't do it, the states can't either?

    It's in the wording.

    amendment 1. "congress shall make no law...." plainly translated, any other lesser body of government may make a law.

    amendment 2. " the right ...shall not be infringed" plainly translated, NO body of government at ANY level may make an infringement.

    Of course, I'm the odd man out, as this is somehow implemented the opposite of the language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodburbon View Post
    It's in the wording.

    amendment 1. "congress shall make no law...." plainly translated, any other lesser body of government may make a law.

    amendment 2. " the right ...shall not be infringed" plainly translated, NO body of government at ANY level may make an infringement.

    Of course, I'm the odd man out, as this is somehow implemented the opposite of the language.
    The preamble to the BoR makes it clear that the BoR was directed toward the central government, not the state governments.

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
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    The Supreme Court has ruled on many occasions that states cannot trump Constitutional guarantees like the 2A or 1A. That's the whole reason liberals fight their battles in court rather than trying actually pass laws the normal way. What is so confusing about

    This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    The preamble to the BoR makes it clear that the BoR was directed toward the central government, not the state governments.

    Then why bother with specifying bbodies of government that are limited in the language of the subsequent amendments if it is already implied who is limited?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    I've never considered putting anyone on ignore on this site before, but saying 'Chi-Town' got you close, man.
    Of all my Chicago friends (and somehow they're all die-hard Cubs fans still to this day) I think I've heard only one of them refer to it as "Chicago," the rest say "Chi-Town."
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    Isolated moment of hope. I thought people just needed a wake-up call four years ago but you have to have been completely asleep, a die-hard Marxist or stupid as all get out to have voted for the clown this year and he still managed to get 51%.

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