Your Thoughts on This Please.....

[Irving]

Here is my post from another thread on this same topic.

I remember playing DOOM on the computer with my cousin once when we were pretty young. We were saying something along the lines of if this ever really happened, how we'd stick together. My dad walked by and said, "You know this isn't real right?" I didn't even know how to respond to him because I thought it was such a stupid question. We weren't having a conversation about the possibility of shotgunning monsters in the face in a dark building, we were confirming each other's loyalty to each other through times thick and thin. My dad just happened to be walking by and mistook a very healthy conversation, as an unhealthy one.

I was old enough to drive when Grand Theft Auto came out. I remember my friends making comments about the adjustment from driving around carjacking, crashing into things, and running down prostitutes, to getting into your own car to drive home. I remember that it was completely unheard of to be able to negatively interact with a life like character over and over and over (stomping a body around after you already killed it), and it was disturbing at first, but I adapted to it and accepted it as part of the game. It is what you do while playing the game. I can say the same thing about joining committees at work. I'd rather not, but it is part of the corporate dance that you do to get promotions.

I bring all this up to share that around the time GTA came out, was when I decided to buy a Corn snake from the pet store. More than any video game I ever played, more than any of the horrible things I watched on Ogrish when those sites were popular, what really had the greatest affect on me was having to kill mice for my snake. Sometimes I would let the snake do the work, and while it was awesome to behold, it wasn't any more comfortable to watch. I had that snake for almost four years, and killed a lot of mice. I got used to it, but I never enjoyed it.

I guess the conclusion to this long post is that movies, books, videos, and video games are just what they are, and not usually any more. People tend to forget that along with video games, kids are still experiencing real life at the same time. They experience real life death of family members, kids at school, and their pets. The experiences of real life will always outweigh those of entertainment media. If you have a kid that doesn't blink an eye when Fido or grandma dies, then you may look into getting some kind of evaluation done. Chances are, if someone has a mental condition, it was there all along and wasn't dependent on whether they played video games or not.

[Zigfried]

Id have to say I agree with Mike - http://now.msn.com/huckabee-blames-s...?ocid=ansnow11. This country is screwed up morally and school/movie theater shootings are the result. To much emphasis on "me" and not enough on family and duty. Why were this kid's parents divorced? Why would you let kids play video games like this? This stuff isn't freedom of speech, its obscene.

[00tec]

OMG! It's a digital image's fault! They must be STOPPED!

Yeah, OK.
I played this level, and didn't feel the need to go slaughter hundreds of people. Matter of fact, 4.7 million copies of this particular game were sold just in the first 24 hours after release. That's a LOT of people that played that game and didn't feel like slaying an airport full of people.

I played Black Ops 2 for a few hours after work last night with at least 2 other members from this forum. Killed hundreds of 'people'. We must be psychopaths bent on murderous rampage.


For what it's worth, I think it's the smilies' fault.




This actually reminds me, I have to go over to one of those member's house in a bit. And I'm taking a gun

[Fmedges]

We should ban everything and open government reeducation centers.

[sneakerd]

I can't see why anyone would NOT recognize that these video games contribute to the desensitizing of teenagers who spend countless hours killing in front of video screens.

[DavieD55]

Its not a matter of distinguishing the difference between reality amd a video game with me. It is a matter of principal.

[jake]

This was just posted on a forum I visit. In case you're wondering about its relevance to this particular thread (or wondering where you can get an automatic double barreled shotgun), it's a list of guns from the same game as the airport level in the OP.

Further clarification: the forum it was posted on is a football (soccer) related forum, so most of the members of it are British or European. Although reading through the 28-page thread about the school shooting, a huge percentage of them seem to be experts on the United States, firearms, gun laws in the United States, the Constitution, the killer and the exact weapons he used

[asmo]

*yawn*
This is years old and has been hashed to death. There was an option in the game to turn it off.

[asmo]

I can't see why anyone would NOT recognize that these video games contribute to the desensitizing of teenagers who spend countless hours killing in front of video screens.

Because it has been proven over and over again by numerous studies that they don't have any correlation.

[bryjcom]

All this talk about banning video games. Didn't hear anybody say that. Maybe I missed it?

I posted the game clip because it was a good example of what our society puts up with and accepts as OK. .

Some of you guys make the point that you have to be 18 to buy the game. Thats right but I know lots of kids from 6-13 playing these games. Parents are to blame. Some of these kids are ones that my 10 year old son hangs out with. Their parents are bible bumping hardcore Christians and somehow they let their kids play this shit???

Some of you guys make the point that you played these games, just as I have, yet you haven't killed anyone. Your right, but thats not the point. Its a accumulation of these things in our society that portrays violence as no big deal and in my opinion that why we have these atrocities.


So I'm going to ask this again.... Why do you have a nation like Switzerland that MANDATES that half the population be armed with an full auto weapon and have so little crime, yet have an American society armed almost as well and have so much crime? Its not the guns, so what is causing this.