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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    Other then the video footage..

    Aren't they as an FFL REQUIRED by federal law to do this ( save the 4473) ?

    loosen the tin foil a bit boys ..
    Of course they have to keep the 4473, anyone involved with guns knows that.

    "use of databases to identify people"

    No tin-foil hats here, just posting the info for you to digest and form your own opinion.

    Saving the 4473 is quite a bit different than data-basing all your data until the end of the world. I suppose they could be imaging the forms and indexing it to the purchase.

    Do you think your 2A supportive LGS is going to computerize and db index all those forms, let alone hand them over to the blue hats when they come knocking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post

    Saving the 4473 is quite a bit different than data-basing all your data until the end of the world. I suppose they could be imaging the forms and indexing it to the purchase.
    Some store scan all 4473 after the transfer is complete and some stores( bass pro)use a digital version of the 4473.
    I worked at a store that save security camera video for years, helps in court, catching shop litters who steal multiply times and corporate fraud too.
    We live in a digital age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Of course they have to keep the 4473, anyone involved with guns knows that.

    "use of databases to identify people"

    No tin-foil hats here, just posting the info for you to digest and form your own opinion.

    Saving the 4473 is quite a bit different than data-basing all your data until the end of the world. I suppose they could be imaging the forms and indexing it to the purchase.

    Do you think your 2A supportive LGS is going to computerize and db index all those forms, let alone hand them over to the blue hats when they come knocking?

    Mmmmmmm if a LGS wants to remain in business they comply with the ATF on a yearly basis, if not more depending on any "issues", such as a gun or 2 from the same store used to commit crimes etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Of course they have to keep the 4473, anyone involved with guns knows that.

    "use of databases to identify people"

    No tin-foil hats here, just posting the info for you to digest and form your own opinion.

    Saving the 4473 is quite a bit different than data-basing all your data until the end of the world. I suppose they could be imaging the forms and indexing it to the purchase.

    Do you think your 2A supportive LGS is going to computerize and db index all those forms, let alone hand them over to the blue hats when they come knocking?

    Hand them over when the blue hats come knocking? ( I assume blue hats are the cops..) huh you mean they will comply with the law?? how dare they !!!!

    You don;t think the "reporter" took a bit of artistic license and embellished the " database" .. or you are doing that in your own mind?.. what is a collection of paperwork with names and dates on them ( also know as data from the sale) .. oh I dunno .. a lot of folks call it .... A DATABASE!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    Hand them over when the blue hats come knocking? ( I assume blue hats are the cops..) huh you mean they will comply with the law?? how dare they !!!!

    You don;t think the "reporter" took a bit of artistic license and embellished the " database" .. or you are doing that in your own mind?.. what is a collection of paperwork with names and dates on them ( also know as data from the sale) .. oh I dunno .. a lot of folks call it .... A DATABASE!!!!!!!

    I never said anything about FFL not complying with the BATF or local LE.

    I never said anything about being a crook or worried about confiscation and am offended that anyone imply so.

    I see it's OK for many others to talk about "accidental" fires in LGS records in other threads, but I mention blue hats and everyone freaks the fuck out.

    P.S. If you don't know what a blue hat is, STFU.
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    UN troops wear blue helmets...
    Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    UN troops wear blue helmets...
    You're absolutely right, and if I confused anyone by incorrectly typing blue hats, I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    You're absolutely right, and if I confused anyone by incorrectly typing blue hats, I apologize.
    So how exactly .. would walmart be doing something nefarious that every other gun store is doing???


    Granted I feel a LOT of mysterious fires would start in mom and pop gun stores if the UN rolled in looking for records.... but come on man .. stop acting like walmart is doing something unusual ...
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    And sure the corp gun stores are all gunna fall in line so to speak .. not just wally world.. but Dicks and bass pro and cabelas.... and and and this list can go on and on ..
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