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    I'm sorry, you're right, EVERYTHING in this situation is all the Cop's fault, the owner of the dog has no stake in it besides being a victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    I'm sorry, you're right, EVERYTHING in this situation is all the Cop's fault, the owner of the dog has no stake in it besides being a victim.
    Have you watched the video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    Have you watched the video?
    Yeah I did, did you watch it AND read the quoted article and listen to the 911 call audio files in it? The whole point is this isn't 100% the Cop's bag to hold. There's others that have some responsibility too. The owner and the person she left the dog with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    I'm sorry, you're right, EVERYTHING in this situation is all the Cop's fault, the owner of the dog has no stake in it besides being a victim.

    Good god, wtf ever happened to people taking responsibility for their own actions, you know, like leaving a dog in the custody of someone who's not responsible enough to take care of it. If you love your dog so much why wouldn't you put it with someone who'll actually take proper care of it?
    All or nothing, eh? Figures.


    Yes, I'm all about personal responsibility. How about exercising a little bit of it, and placing responsibility where it belongs - on the person who let the dog out. Is there previous history that shows the person who was watching the dog wasn't responsible enough? Or is this the first time they've done something like this? Unless you have factual knowledge that the owner was aware that the person who was watching the dog is irresponsible, I'd say the owner made a good effort at responsibility. Being the owner, they maintain some responsibility. However, SO DOES THE PERSON WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WATCHING THE DOG.

    Lumping 100% of the blame on the owner is the lazy way out of this situation. The world isn't black and white, slick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublco View Post
    All or nothing, eh? Figures.


    Yes, I'm all about personal responsibility. How about exercising a little bit of it, and placing responsibility where it belongs - on the person who let the dog out. Is there previous history that shows the person who was watching the dog wasn't responsible enough? Or is this the first time they've done something like this? Unless you have factual knowledge that the owner was aware that the person who was watching the dog is irresponsible, I'd say the owner made a good effort at responsibility. Being the owner, they maintain some responsibility. However, SO DOES THE PERSON WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WATCHING THE DOG.

    Lumping 100% of the blame on the owner is the lazy way out of this situation. The world isn't black and white, slick.
    Please show me where I did that one??

    I said.
    This cop is an idiot for discharging his sidearm so recklessly, however I have ZERO sympathy for the dog owner. She left her dog with a friend and that friend didn't keep the dog restrained
    Cop was a dumbass no doubt, but the whole thing could have been avoided if the owner and the person she left the dog with would have been responsible in the first place.
    That's my WHOLE POINT, while everyone flaming me seems to think it's all the Cop's fault. For fawksakes. yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    Please show me where I did that one??


    That's my WHOLE POINT, while everyone flaming me seems to think it's all the Cop's fault. For fawksakes. yourself.
    You are doing a fine job of missing my point; which is - the owner made what I think most people (obviously excluding yourself) would consider a reasonable attempt at being a responsible pet owner by having someone take care of the dog, instead of just leaving it in their backyard. So someone who was entrusted to take care of the dog didn't, and you feel that the owner should just shut up and color.

    So according to you; anyone who leaves their dog in the care of anyone else, whether it be a friend or a kennel, and anything like this happens it's partially their fault for being a dog owner. That's what I'm getting from this. If that's incorrect, please explain how.

    I was incorrect in saying you were attributing 100% of the blame to the owner.

    I still believe the owner made a good effort in trying to be responsible, and it appears you feel that they weren't.

    No, it isn't all the officer's fault. The only thing that would be his fault is allegedly shooting the dog multiple times, and missing a couple; endangering the surrounding community. The dog was being held by the animal control officer, that is not in dispute. The fact that the dog got loose initially would be the responsibility of the person caring for the dog. The dog owner is responsible for the fact that they own the dog, and from that would most likely be responsible for the cost of damages resulting from the dog being let loose by the person caring for it, although that person holds the responsibility for the dog being loose. So I suppose it comes down to what you're defining responsibility.

    If all you can do is fawksake this and fawksake that, you're doing a fine job of all by yourself. I wasn't particularly trying to flame you, but you seem to be rather sensitive. This forum is for discourse, discussion, and conversation. That means frequently other people have other opinions. Get used to it.
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