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    Who cares what guns were used? The point is that HE was evil, HE was intent on doing harm to the kids, HE shouldn't have had access to the guns. That has no bearing on MY danger to society or MY right to have access to my guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Wait, there was someone else too? Someone "hauled out of the woods?". I guess I missed that part..... WTF is going on there?
    gov versions goes something like this "move along nothing to see here "
    press version goes like this "assault rifle goes crazy again and kills children " or "crazed gunman kills children in mass shooting "
    tin foil hat version
    dad is going to testify against banks (trillions at stake ) , gov programs kid , kid goes loco , my starts paperwork to get kid locked up in the puzzle factory , kid kills mom in her sleep , kid goes to the place that mom volunteers at full time (in this case ) and kills a bunch of kids but only because the gov programed him too

    the whole subject is wearing me out . everywhere i turn its more people worried about mass shootings . sounds about as productive as worrying about a plane falling on my house .

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    oh yeah he may have not done it but been killed and someone else did it and planted everything
    people are getting crazy with it for sure

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    It's such a crock our government can never just be honest with the people of the United States. Put your bullshit agendas to the side and just lay it out there. Just like Benghazi, there still is no real truth, just people silently stepping out the back of the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Who cares what guns were used? The point is that HE was evil, HE was intent on doing harm to the kids, HE shouldn't have had access to the guns. That has no bearing on MY danger to society or MY right to have access to my guns.
    Absolutely right! But, the issue is, what's the truth? Why are they repressing the truth, and how much of what's being released is bullshit that's being used to further someone's anti-gun agenda?

    Everytime a nut with a gun does something horrible, it seems to trigger a disinformation campaign by the authorities and media to make people believe that ALL gunowners are nuts, and are just waiting for our own chance to do something horrible with our tools of mass-murder. That's all that semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines are good for, right? To kill and maim as many innocent people as possible, as quickly as possible?

    If there WAS an AR-15 at that school, and it was used, then let's see the damned thing and some proof. If no video exists, there would still be empty casings and plenty of witnesses to verify it. If there WASN'T one there and one WASN'T used, then they need to come clean about it, admit it, and STFU about it.

    Tell the goddamn truth about what really happened, and stop using the tragedy to try and push some agenda about banning "assault rifles", or "high-capacity magazines", or "purchases of large amounts of ammo", or some other such bullshit. Is that too much for the American People to ask?

    At this point, we don't really know if he actually used an AR-15, "four handguns", or maybe nothing but a Browning Buckmark .22 pistol and a pocketful of magazines. That's the real issue, is WE don't know what was really used, and THEY aren't saying or providing any proof.
    Last edited by rondog; 12-27-2012 at 11:12.

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    Default So...what guns were used?

    Amen, Rondog.

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    Rondog said it right!

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    And Obama promised us "transparency" in government! Maybe they will publish an "FBI" report...redacted of course!

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    How do we call them out? How do we force them to be honest with the American public? How do we hold the left dog media accountable?
    "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFGopherMike View Post
    How do we call them out? How do we force them to be honest with the American public? How do we hold the left dog media accountable?
    Very good questions. I have no answers or suggestions. But I'm damned sick and tired of this "us vs. them" shit.

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