And the progressive creep continues

[Ronin13]

Your argument kinda lost traction when you said "fudge packers." Whether you agree with it or not, it's here, it's not going anywhere, and the best we can do is try and respect others' without infringing upon their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

[Dave_L]

the best we can do is try and respect others' without infringing upon their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

I love how that's supposed to apply until the dems find something they don't like. Then it's 0 tolerance.

[Ronin13]

I love how that's supposed to apply until the dems find something they don't like. Then it's 0 tolerance.

Yes, but we're supposed to take the higher road and not stoop to their level... IE: "I don't force anyone to buy a gun, but they want to disarm me. I don't force anyone to hunt, but they wanna ban my ability to hunt. I don't force anyone to eat meat, but they push to ban meat. These are lunatics that propose this crap." -Uncle Ted Nugent.

Ah! Political Correctness. Paralyzing western society for 40 years. And do explain how that nullifies the seriousness of the topic? Or is it that the topict is a little too close for comfort?
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When you stoop to a level just above pawn scum you come off as a bigot and intolerant yourself, and thus just proves that your argument is based on blind hate instead of factual reference. And by you insinuating that I'm a homosexual just proves how blatantly ignorant and bigoted you are... For the record, my uncle was a homosexual, and I'd be willing to bet, before he died in 1988, he was 10x the person you would ever dream of being. I don't agree with political correctness, but I'm not a rampant anti-gay, homophobic, bigot like you. If they chose that lifestyle that's their choice, "what another eats doesn't make me shit." So pump the brakes Mel.

[Melvin]

When you stoop to a level just above pawn scum you come off as a bigot and intolerant yourself, and thus just proves that your argument is based on blind hate instead of factual reference. And by you insinuating that I'm a homosexual just proves how blatantly ignorant and bigoted you are... For the record, my uncle was a homosexual, and I'd be willing to bet, before he died in 1988, he was 10x the person you would ever dream of being. I don't agree with political correctness, but I'm not a rampant anti-gay, homophobic, bigot like you. If they chose that lifestyle that's their choice, "what another eats doesn't make me shit." So pump the brakes Mel.

In case you hadn't noticed this country is going to hell thanks to "tolerance". I am sure you have got to be the first person I have ever known who calls "Chumlee" scum. If you actually took time to read what I wrote vs projecting your reality on what you want my OP to have said you might have realized that I provided an in depth article from a well established news organization as opposed to offering an opinion.

Again I never said nor implied that you were hoimo. I said maybe you throwing up your straw man was your way of deflecting from the subject of the OP because that was a little too close to home. I have yet to see anything you have said that expresses any disgust with the premise of the OP.

No you are not anti gay. You are a rampant anti-normal, heterophobic bigot. You don't have a corner on the slur market. (although your brand of slur, distraction and deflection is straight out of Alinsky's little debate guide for libs)

[Rucker61]

In case you hadn't noticed this country is going to hell thanks to "tolerance". I am sure you have got to be the first person I have ever known who calls "Chumlee" scum. If you actually took time to read what I wrote vs projecting your reality on what you want my OP to have said you might have realized that I provided an in depth article from a well established news organization as opposed to offering an opinion.

Sorry, missed the part about "fudge-packers" in the Guardian article. Can you quote it? And you've seen nothing but disgust here for pedophiles, which was the topic of the referenced article. Homosexuality, meh, we're grownups here. For the most part. Until about 17 posts ago, anyway.

[Ronin13]

In case you hadn't noticed this country is going to hell thanks to "tolerance". I am sure you have got to be the first person I have ever known who calls "Chumlee" scum. If you actually took time to read what I wrote vs projecting your reality on what you want my OP to have said you might have realized that I provided an in depth article from a well established news organization as opposed to offering an opinion.

Again I never said nor implied that you were hoimo. I said maybe you throwing up your straw man was your way of deflecting from the subject of the OP because that was a little too close to home. I have yet to see anything you have said that expresses any disgust with the premise of the OP.

No you are not anti gay. You are a rampant anti-normal, heterophobic bigot. You don't have a corner on the slur market. (although your brand of slur, distraction and deflection is straight out of Alinsky's little debate guide for libs)

There is a big difference between tolerance and being respectful. Yes, I do think pedophilia is disgusting and wrong. No it's not close to anywhere with me (home, work, or parts unknown), never has been, never will be, so yes I do find the subject you posted about to be disgusting, vile, and intolerable... However, that's the UK, same place where stellar examples of the absolute worst of humanity (Piers Morgan) come from.

I didn't project any false reality, I simply stated that by using hateful, and inflammatory words unnecessarily hurts your credibility... which I see now you never had to begin with. Your "anti-normal, heterophobic bigot" remark was sad and ignorant to put it nicely. You need to make up words to better suit your vitriolic rebuttal? And claiming I in any way, shape, or form follow a Socialist hack like Alinsky is just in poor taste. You're new here, so I'll help fill you in, these attacks are sophomoric at best, and I suggest, for fear of reprisal from the MODs, you cool it a bit. I was only saying that we should be more apt to taking the higher road instead of resorting to childish, ignorant, and stupidly hateful remarks like "fudge packer." Then again, if I had to wager a guess, a lot of this went over your head since I can surmise you have yet to graduate the 12th grade.

[Melvin]

Your "anti-normal, heterophobic bigot" remark was sad and ignorant to put it nicely.

but I'm not a rampant anti-gay, homophobic, bigot like you.

Tell me who died and appointed you Czar of slurs? You want to dish but can't take it when it is served back. You are a classic post 70s product that has been programmed with what the PC position is on every social issue out there. Taught what to think, not how to think. You can't hoodwink a society that thinks for itself. The puppeteers figured that out.

If you want to discuss the subject of the ilk you stand with promoting the agenda of normalizing yet another crime against nature, let's talk. If all you want to do is sit and throw your pathetic bombs, I am done with you. There are far more interesting and accomplished people on this forum from whom I can learn.

In case you are confused as to where I stand, let me help.

Animal liberationists = pro abortionists = gun grabbers = tree huggers = anti capitalists = anti tobacco = pro weed = anthropomorphists = feminists = anti Christians = vegans = race pimps = glbtpb = greenies = LIBS

This is the same motley crew that will stand in solidarity with the pedophiles. But then if you had read any history you would know that.

The only way to deal with the mental disease of liberalism is to run over it and then back up to be sure. (I wonder how long it would take for them to introduce a bill to ban pickups?)

[Ronin13]

Tell me who died and appointed you Czar of slurs? You want to dish but can't take it when it is served back. You are a classic post 70s product that has been programmed with what the PC position is on every social issue out there. Taught what to think, not how to think. You can't hoodwink a society that thinks for itself. The puppeteers figured that out.

If you want to discuss the subject of the ilk you stand with promoting the agenda of normalizing yet another crime against nature, let's talk. If all you want to do is sit and throw your pathetic bombs, I am done with you. There are far more interesting and accomplished people on this forum from whom I can learn.

In case you are confused as to where I stand, let me help.

Animal liberationists = pro abortionists = gun grabbers = tree huggers = anti capitalists = anti tobacco = pro weed = anthropomorphists = feminists = anti Christians = vegans = race pimps = glbtpb = greenies = LIBS

This is the same motley crew that will stand in solidarity with the pedophiles. But then if you had read any history you would know that.

The only way to deal with the mental disease of liberalism is to run over it and then back up to be sure. (I wonder how long it would take for them to introduce a bill to ban pickups?)

Clearly you lack the understanding of the definition of bigot. I was just stating common labels given to people like you- that is, people stuck in the 1940's culture where all is cut and dry, must abide by biblical law. Pedophilia is not, and never will be equal to homosexuality... you may find it to be gross, but the rest of the country realizes that it's gone on (sorry to disrupt your Roman Catholic Utopian dreams) for thousands of years and is perfectly normal. I'm not for PC, but I do respect others for having differing views, and don't "damn them to hell!" like you so quickly do. I'm not promoting some agenda to normalize anything... from the birth of this nation to 1865 it was viewed that black people were property, and that was "normal" for that time. Then in 1920 women were granted the right to vote. Before 1919 it was "normal" to not allow women to vote. I don't see those as wrong, it was the times, and now we're "awakening" if you will, to a time where a once taboo subject (homosexuality, not pedophilia) is actually "normal" and we were wrong and foolish to ever think it was wrong. That's where I draw the parallel, I don't consider one person's choice, albeit against religious norms, to be evil. I agree that liberalism is bad, but would never kill someone because of their political beliefs. If you truly think that way, and that is honestly what you believe, well, I would recommend you seek out help before you act on those impulses. You have an antiquated view on the opposite end of the spectrum than yourself, and that is why I used the term bigot, because that is exactly what it is. Welcome to 2013, we have this wonderful thing called freedom, where people can be vegans and environmentalists and support various causes... Sorry your hibernation took you too far into the future.

[Brock Landers]

Animal liberationists = pro abortionists = gun grabbers = tree huggers = anti capitalists = anti tobacco = pro weed = anthropomorphists = feminists = anti Christians = vegans = race pimps = glbtpb = greenies = LIBS

You have no idea what you're talking about. I am politically liberal (actually I consider myself a moderate but most on this forum would categorize me as a liberal) and I fit into exactly two of the categories you listed. 2/14, well done.

This is the same motley crew that will stand in solidarity with the pedophiles. But then if you had read any history you would know that.

Interesting. Off the top of my head I can name one institution that consistently defends and "stands in solidarity" with pedophiles. I'll give you a hint, it's not a liberal organization.

[hatidua]

No you are not anti gay. You are a rampant anti-normal, heterophobic bigot. You don't have a corner on the slur market. (although your brand of slur, distraction and deflection is straight out of Alinsky's little debate guide for libs)

Melvin is making about as nice an entrance as that FIRM & haggle boy a week or two back