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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Funny... I don't see them being stronger at all. I see maybe their cause being bolstered a bit because of wars in Islamic lands- but stronger? I don't remember any successful large-scale attacks on US Soil since 2001... Oh and I don't remember reading stories of the Iraqi gov torturing it's own people since Saddam was put to death, nor do I remember reading about any recent Afghan government laws banning girls from attending school. "Make things worse" is a very subjective comment.
    Islam is the national religion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Apostasy is punishable by death in both countries. It has been prevented in a few high-profile cases only by US diplomatic intervention in both countries.

    Both countries will be supporting Islamic terrorists with US supplied arms and training, not to mention better infrastructure and out-and-out support, within a few years of us leaving, on the outside. Neither country is better off in the long run than before. Iraq is arguably going to be worse off.

    If you think the win/loss bar in this war is "terrorist attacks in the US" you are very much off base. Islam as a political system must be smashed, and Islam itself converted from a theocratic religion ala Catholicism in the dark ages to a peaceful one. The only way to do that is crushing military defeats and forcing Islam out of the political arena at the point of a sword. That is the measure of our success, and by that measure we've failed miserably.
    Last edited by Pancho Villa; 01-14-2013 at 12:52.

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