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    Default Re: Obama to use kids to push agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Wonder if any of the kids will be the victims of Sandy Hook?
    That's actually where they got all of the kids from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Nuge View Post
    So . . . Let me get this straight. It's ok for them to abort them, but not to shoot them????
    FIFY.
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    I still think the best way is to impose an AUTOMATIC sentence on any aggressor who brandishes a weapon in a menacing manor.

    Like:

    First offense of brandishing a weapon: 5 years, no appeals.
    2nd offense, 20 years, no appeals.

    Actually using the weapon, whether resulting in death/s or not... execution.

    Similar to the so-called 'third-strike' law in CA (if they even do that anymore) only this would be 'one-strike'.

    I'm sure the lawyer lobbyists would scream, but it's about the only way to give a potential perp something to consider, as he knows the laws we already have, and rarely enforced, are a joke and little to worry about.

    We don't need more 'feel-good' laws to solicit more votes, we need something that will get their attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitbaby View Post
    I still think the best way is to impose an AUTOMATIC sentence on any aggressor who brandishes a weapon in a menacing manor.

    Like:

    First offense of brandishing a weapon: 5 years, no appeals.
    2nd offense, 20 years, no appeals.

    Actually using the weapon, whether resulting in death/s or not... execution.

    Similar to the so-called 'third-strike' law in CA (if they even do that anymore) only this would be 'one-strike'.

    I'm sure the lawyer lobbyists would scream, but it's about the only way to give a potential perp something to consider, as he knows the laws we already have, and rarely enforced, are a joke and little to worry about.

    We don't need more 'feel-good' laws to solicit more votes, we need something that will get their attention.
    I'm sure that Lanza would have taken that into consideration before committing 26 counts of first degree murder.

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    Color me shocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitbaby View Post
    I still think the best way is to impose an AUTOMATIC sentence on any aggressor who brandishes a weapon in a menacing manor.

    Like:

    First offense of brandishing a weapon: 5 years, no appeals.
    2nd offense, 20 years, no appeals.

    Actually using the weapon, whether resulting in death/s or not... execution.

    Similar to the so-called 'third-strike' law in CA (if they even do that anymore) only this would be 'one-strike'.

    I'm sure the lawyer lobbyists would scream, but it's about the only way to give a potential perp something to consider, as he knows the laws we already have, and rarely enforced, are a joke and little to worry about.

    We don't need more 'feel-good' laws to solicit more votes, we need something that will get their attention.
    Yeah, that won't get abused ... perp tries to rob you, you draw weapon, he runs away and calls the police "a mean man pointed a gun at me" ... your word against his, for whatever reason the jury believes him over you and BAM you go away for 5 years and lose your 2A rights forever.


    The dirty little secret is we don't need any new laws and the laws we have are frankly enforced just fine. Violent crime is both in decline and at historic lows. There is no problem to be fixed.
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    It's not an execution, it's just a really Really Late term abortion ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    It's not an execution, it's just a really Really Late term abortion ...
    seems to be a need for more of those lately, must be the moral decline of society
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    Laws are not meant to enacted because of the latest outrage. Intelligent people understand this. But when you get a person in a high enough office who has an agenda and an event takes place that can further this persons agenda, you get bills that are not intelligently thought out or written. Just as we have today. The laws we have are good enough, they just have to be enforced with the same sense of urgency as the person who wants his/her agenda furthered has put for their bills. Think about it, they keep writing new laws for everything all the time. It justifies their existence/job. When is it that there are enough laws? Just because an event happens that out rages people doesn't mean we need a new law. Just enforce the ones we have. Then those "law" makers cannot stay in office for life making the wages they do. Why don't we ever hear of them taking a pay cut? That's another story. WE DO NOT NEED NEW LAWS!!!! ENFORCE THE ONES WE HAVE!!!

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    No surprise there, they normally use women and children as shields.

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