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    With Obama's first Democratic convention Denver was flooded with out of state visitors, many from New York and Illinois. They liked Denver so much they decided to move here. Then they told all their Facebook friends to move out here too.

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    So Colorado is the victim of a reverse Free State Project? Lovely.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    So Colorado is the victim of a reverse Free State Project? Lovely.
    Yes, there was actually a book written about this plan. The Blueprint: How the Democrats Won Colorado (and Why Republicans Everywhere Should Care)
    http://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Demo.../dp/1936218003
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    IMO Hispanics are family-oriented. They are deeply religious and they work hard. Many are still trying to get rooted here. Eventually they will become better educated and want their children to have a better lifestyle than they had or could provide. In another generation they will have leveraged the system to build enough wealth and prosperity to catch the eye of the government. At that time, we will see a new breed of conservatives emerging in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SG1 View Post
    Do you think if he just toned it done a little he could have won? or was being a 3 party guy just doomed from the start? Has the guy talked about running for office again?
    Tancredo was more popular than the Republican running. And he got more votes. He asked the GOP guy to step down, but he wouldn't, and it cost us the Governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    newracer beat me to it, that book tells you how it happened. Here's the author's web site http://blueprintbook.net/





    No, Tancredo would have won if the Republican party would have dumped the idiot they had (who lied to the party from the get-go) and run Tancredo instead. Yes The Hick got more votes than both combined, but a big part of that is because many Colorado Republicans and Conservatives just stayed home because of the mess.


    Now that pot is legal here expect it to get worse.

    If they get their gun control fantasies here expect more conservatives to leave thus making it even worse.

    Unless the current libtard gun control fetish causes the state to backlash and go red again, I have very little hope for the future of Colorado (soon to be renamed East California).



    I also have to take a little umbrage at criticism from someone in Harry Reid's district
    Republicans and Conservatives who stay home, are not Republicans or Conservatives.

    Do you think they could use the pot as a tax issue, or focues on get the illegals out?

    Can you guys save your state?

    Dont blame me I voted for Sharon Angel, should lost by like half a point, 3 party once again screws us,seeing how the state party did nbot give he any help or funds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    So Colorado is the victim of a reverse Free State Project? Lovely.
    Reverse Free State Project, dude highest of fives..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SG1 View Post
    Republicans and Conservatives who stay home, are not Republicans or Conservatives.
    That was my point during the election.

    Do you think they could use the pot as a tax issue, or focues on get the illegals out?
    I think pot passed in big part because of the potential of tax revenue. As for getting the illegals out, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Colorado politics is really divided in 3. Conservatives, Liberals and Libertarians. The libertarians are often open borders types and liberals understand that poor, dependent Mexicans will vote for whomever gives them the biggest welfare checks so the fight against illegals here isn't going to go well.

    Can you guys save your state?
    That's the $64,000 question. At this point I think there's a slim chance that we can turn it back around (and honestly the push for gun control by the Dems may actually be our saving grace if it brings the conservatives and libertarians together in a huge backlash). I'll be honest, I'm keeping an open mind about Wyoming, Idaho or Utah and keeping an eye on the job market there.

    Dont blame me I voted for Sharon Angel, should lost by like half a point, 3 party once again screws us,seeing how the state party did nbot give he any help or funds....
    I was just giving you a bit of ribbing. My little brother lives in Vegas so I give him a hard time about Dingy Harry too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    IMO Hispanics are family-oriented. They are deeply religious and they work hard. Many are still trying to get rooted here. Eventually they will become better educated and want their children to have a better lifestyle than they had or could provide. In another generation they will have leveraged the system to build enough wealth and prosperity to catch the eye of the government. At that time, we will see a new breed of conservatives emerging in America.
    The illegal quotient has a mind set carried with them from mexico where the .gov takes care of it's citizens from cradle to grave. Unlike here (well use to be) where the citizenry actually workd for a living. Not the entitlement mentality has overwhelmed this once great land, rendering it in to an unrecognizable mess of gimme more and I deserve attitudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    That was my point during the election.


    I think pot passed in big part because of the potential of tax revenue. As for getting the illegals out, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Colorado politics is really divided in 3. Conservatives, Liberals and Libertarians. The libertarians are often open borders types and liberals understand that poor, dependent Mexicans will vote for whomever gives them the biggest welfare checks so the fight against illegals here isn't going to go well.


    That's the $64,000 question. At this point I think there's a slim chance that we can turn it back around (and honestly the push for gun control by the Dems may actually be our saving grace if it brings the conservatives and libertarians together in a huge backlash). I'll be honest, I'm keeping an open mind about Wyoming, Idaho or Utah and keeping an eye on the job market there.


    I was just giving you a bit of ribbing. My little brother lives in Vegas so I give him a hard time about Dingy Harry too.
    Last edited by SG1; 01-19-2013 at 02:45.

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