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    The minority in Law Enforcement want gun control. The groups where leadership is appointed by big city mayors tend to be the ones claiming all law enforcement want gun control.

    CSOC in Colorado and LEAGC and LEAA Nationally are just a few of the national groups telling the public otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The minority in Law Enforcement want gun control. The groups where leadership is appointed by big city mayors tend to be the ones claiming all law enforcement want gun control.

    CSOC in Colorado and LEAGC and LEAA Nationally are just a few of the national groups telling the public otherwise.
    You bring up a very good point, in that people's attitudes towards gun control is largely a function of their environment. Urban/city dwellers tend to be very much in favor of gun control while those in suburban/rural areas tend to be against it. Not sure how we can bridge that gap and convince those who live in the city about the importance of the Second Amendment. When we bring up the true purpose of the Second Amendment, deterrence to tyranny, gun control supporters in the cities are quick to dismiss any threat and call us paranoid and other less charitable names. They fail to see that their sense of complacency creates the very conditions for which a tyrant might exploit!

    We will have to think a bit more on this topic, that is how to connect at both an emotional and logical level, because it is obvious that facts alone are not enough, and the Second Amendment is too important to simply ignore those who are exploiting the current situation for more stringent gun controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVC View Post
    You bring up a very good point, in that people's attitudes towards gun control is largely a function of their environment. Urban/city dwellers tend to be very much in favor of gun control while those in suburban/rural areas tend to be against it. Not sure how we can bridge that gap and convince those who live in the city about the importance of the Second Amendment. When we bring up the true purpose of the Second Amendment, deterrence to tyranny, gun control supporters in the cities are quick to dismiss any threat and call us paranoid and other less charitable names. They fail to see that their sense of complacency creates the very conditions for which a tyrant might exploit!

    We will have to think a bit more on this topic, that is how to connect at both an emotional and logical level, because it is obvious that facts alone are not enough, and the Second Amendment is too important to simply ignore those who are exploiting the current situation for more stringent gun controls.
    You are correct sir! Good post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JVC View Post
    You bring up a very good point, in that people's attitudes towards gun control is largely a function of their environment. Urban/city dwellers tend to be very much in favor of gun control while those in suburban/rural areas tend to be against it. Not sure how we can bridge that gap and convince those who live in the city about the importance of the Second Amendment. When we bring up the true purpose of the Second Amendment, deterrence to tyranny, gun control supporters in the cities are quick to dismiss any threat and call us paranoid and other less charitable names. They fail to see that their sense of complacency creates the very conditions for which a tyrant might exploit!

    We will have to think a bit more on this topic, that is how to connect at both an emotional and logical level, because it is obvious that facts alone are not enough, and the Second Amendment is too important to simply ignore those who are exploiting the current situation for more stringent gun controls.
    You touched on a very good topic here. We've discussed previously the growing polarization in this country and I think it is interesting to see these lines are becoming distinct between rural and urban areas. As you pointed out, gun-control advocates are found more often in urban areas, and yet these areas have higher incidence of gun-related crime. Urban areas are also populated with a higher incidence per capita of participants in various welfare and state-sponsored social services programs, as compared to rural areas. The political red vs blue county maps which have been posted here more than once, all show blue urban areas and red rural areas, with few exceptions.

    So are liberal-leaning people simply drawn to highly-populated city centers, or does dwelling in a city produce left-leaning people? Is the same true for living in a rural area and a having a mindset which respects individual liberty and resists government control?
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