" I dont care about the second amendment"

[Bailey Guns]

Colorado provides for an affirmative defense to the charge of Possession of Weapons By a Previous Offender if the gun was possessed in the home for personal defense:

Affirmative defense under section 13, art. II, Colo. Const. A defendant charged under this section who presents competent evidence showing that his purpose in possessing weapons was the defense of his home, person, and property as recognized by section 13 of art. II, Colo. Const., thereby raises an affirmative defense. People v. Ford, 193 Colo. 459, 568 P.2d 26 (1977); People v. DeWitt, __ P.3d __ (Colo. App. 2011).

Here's another interesting Annotation under 18-12-108:

Prior Colorado conviction not predicate felony for purposes of federal prohibition of possession of firearm by felon. Defendant was wrongly charged for possession of gun by felon, because at the time of his arrest he was once again entitled to possess a gun. Under this statute defendant's civil rights had been restored ten years after he served time on his prior conviction, such rights encompassing his ability to possess a firearm. U.S. v. Hall, 20 F.3d 1066 (10th Cir. 1994).

It's quite possible the guys are committing a "crime" that no DA really wants to bother with...especially if it's in Colorado and it's been 10 years or more since they were released from supervision.

Unlike some others, I wouldn't sweat it too much.

[Great-Kazoo]

I only meant all sale, ownership, would be in their name and would either be able to prove without any doubt that the wife is the owner and sole possessor of the firearm as far as any inquiry by law enforcement would be concerned.

Ownership isn't in anyone's name UNLESS an ATF audit was called to verify point of origin of firearms. Granted the spouse can say they are hers, as spouse is,out of town / state for prolonged periods of time. She feels firearm is for her and children's safety.
No registration in CO Please delete such thoughts from our minds.

[Ronin13]

So lets pretend that you are being a "decent citizen" and reporting something that should be reported. They could be being investigated for rape or murder. But more then likely it's drugs (over 80%). It's no secret the cartels have infiltrated our justice system and kill people to protect their drugs I actually can provide statistics and percentages here but it's a very small number as most drug king pins don't entrust millions of dollars worth of drugs with random people...? The cartels use fully automatic rifles, often. They traffic drugs in dead corpses. We have whole DEA teams who track said individuals who traffic this shit and usually don't get a conviction (it's funny what good legal representation and money can buy.)

At the end of the day you're more then likely just causing a PRODUCTIVE US citizen who is legal, legal problems. Which are costly. Is it funny that one could report you for said offenses and you would be treated the same way? Meaning ANYONE could say hey i heard fucking lead_magnet is trafficking improvised explosive devices. You would likely be tied up in court for years, any income you made would likely goto legal costs unless you're independently wealthy. Even if you were independently wealthy you would be in the "system" for years.

Not attacking you at all, but what in the Zeus are you talking about!? Cartels have infiltrated our justice system and kill people!? What!? Please explain this one- unless of course you currently live in Mexico and you're talking about there.

[Melvin]

I apologize, I don't know what came over me. It was totally absurd of me to be concerned about a convicted felon in possession of an AK and a Glock. Carry on, nothing to see here, I'm going to go outside now and try to nab me a J walker.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

The official US motto:

[lead_magnet]

^This

[lead_magnet]

Well, with all due respect, it might be in your best interest to delete or change your original post. There is a little known federal statute in 18 USC 4 called "Misprision of Felony" sometimes used to apply pressure to family members and associates of individuals under investigation. What this means is that, if you have direct knowledge of a federal felony and either conceal it or fail to report it, that is a crime one can be prosecuted for. However, hearsay or an overheard bit of conversation taken out of context does not constitute "direct knowledge." You do not know this to be factual, and it is possible you misheard or misunderstood or they were either confabulating or discussing some other guy or even something they saw in a film. You do not know for a fact they are prohibited persons, and you have not seen them in possession of a firearm . . . if that were so, you might have something to worry about. Everything you post here can be subpoenaed, your IP address can be tracked to your physical location, and several BATFE agents are members here . . . actually, I'd be surprised if at least one wasn't a moderator.

Exactly, can you be prosecuted for what you posted here? Nope. That's not the issue. If you're not willing to grow a backbone and do something about the issue, then don't bitch about it. Either do something, or don't whine, but above all don't air it on a publicly accessible forum then get pissy when your called out for failing to act.

You start your thread off by telling us your pissed off about these two guys illegally possessing weapons, then reverse yourself by defending them and tell us how its none of your business and you don't really care anyway. Now everyone knows I like to argue, but can you pick a side please, it's easier that way. I'm not sure if disagree with you or myself now, what was your point again?



I'll be back in a few, I have to go out and buy a Nazi uniform, seeing how I apparently just stated how I wanted to start up the fourth reich.

[Goodburbon]

I was pointing out that criminals hold no regard for laws. In the context of the government attempting to make new laws against gun ownership. I wasn't bitching about the issue of them having the weapons, I was bitching about the fact that criminals have blatent disregard for law, but the solution to crime is argued to be more law. I thought it was implied by the context of the times that we live in.

I am sorry, I'm not willing to lose my job, get blackballed in my line of work and ruin 2 families lives (not including my own) just so I can tattle on a couple of guys who are finally on the right track in life AFTER they've served their time. I'm a libertarian, not a fascist. You and people like you who don't mind their own business are how we end up in prison camps...

[HBARleatherneck]

just remember

snitches get stitches.

[clworth22]

This is what is wrong with society and people these days, everyone is into everyone's business. Mind your own GD business and don't be a snItch. I also don't blame you on this post, the state and fed gov have been encouraging people to snitch on one another for a while now. Example: the flashing overhead signs on I-25, "Report Drunk Drivers dial * CSP" and "See something, say something."

[cstone]

This is what is wrong with society and people these days, everyone is into everyone's business. Mind your own GD business and don't be a snItch. I also don't blame you on this post, the state and fed gov have been encouraging people to snitch on one another for a while now. Example: the flashing overhead signs on I-25, "Report Drunk Drivers dial * CSP" and "See something, say something."

So if you are driving down I-25 and you see someone swerving across the lanes or otherwise drives as if they were somehow impaired, you wouldn't call CSP?

So if I see someone breaking into your house, then walking out the door with your valuables, I shouldn't dial 911?

So if I witness someone being beaten and raped, I shouldn't do anything?

I'm just checking. I know that wasn't the original situation in the OP, and as I stated in a previous post, the OP knows what he knows based on what the other people told him and there is no clearly defined time frame or obvious danger to anyone based on the information. I would not advocate a 911 call based on the OP's situation, however, asking someone for additional information or advice based on a desire to obtain a better understanding of the legalities would not be unwise, IMO.

The cliche "snitches get stitches," is just sophomoric. Concerned citizens, with information about a clear danger to other human beings have a moral and civic duty to act, again, IMO. Report the information and be a good witness would seem to the bare minimum action for members of a civilized community. If someone's life is in jeopardy, many of us have declared that we will be responsible and use the force necessary to protect the life of another human being.

Each to his own I guess. You know, or will find out what your conscience will bear.

Be safe.