Magpul versus CO Legislation Thread

[rondog]

So, will this make existing 30-rd. mags illegal? Or just outlaw new ones?

[Ronin13]

So, will this make existing 30-rd. mags illegal? Or just outlaw new ones?

As written what you have now until the effective date (July 1, 2013 IIRC) is legal, after that date you can't buy any more (used or new), but how will they know when you bought a "pre-ban" mag- so no more newly manufactured ones. Sale, transfer, manufacture in CO will be illegal after 7/1/13. Here I come WY!!!

[Kraven251]

As written what you have now until the effective date (July 1, 2013 IIRC) is legal, after that date you can't buy any more (used or new), but how will they know when you bought a "pre-ban" mag- so no more newly manufactured ones. Sale, transfer, manufacture in CO will be illegal after 7/1/13. Here I come WY!!!

...but I didn't buy these in CO, that would be a fun loophole, until they charged you with felony possession

[Sawin]

...but I didn't buy these in CO, that would be a fun loophole, until they charged you with felony possession

Trafficking over state lines...

[Drucker]

prove it

I guess now I will have to get that CD
"Damn it feels good to be a gangsta"

[fly boy]

When are you going? I'd love to tag along even if only for the people watching, and i'd happy to pitch in for gas.

Let me know when you guys are coming up!!! We have a pint!!

[brutal]

Damn, where is that 100 mag DSG mag order when I need it...

I wish I didn't, but it's looking pretty dismal.

I saw one thread that there is one confirmed Dem against but don't know if he was House or Senate.

[Ronin13]

From Chris Holbert (R):
"Friends, please note that voice votes are used during Second Reading. The bill(s) has not passed completely, just Second Reading debate. The final, Third Reading vote, will be a recorded vote. That vote cannot occur on the same day and must take place at least the next day. We will all push the Red "No" button or the Green "Yes" button. The public will see the name board, the vote of each member, and the total vote Yes/No. 33 votes are required to pass a bill through the House."
Monday is when they do the official, recorded vote... if it passes we'll be able to see who we need to recall and have kicked out of the general assembly.

[Dr_Fwd]

From Magpul FB page

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
MAGPUL INDUSTRIES ANNOUNCES IT WILL LEAVE COLORADO IF GUN BILL PASSES

MOVE WOULD COST STATE 600 JOBS, $85 MILLION

Denver, Colorado – February 15th, 2013 - Magpul Industries, an Erie, Colorado, based manufacturer of firearms accessories, announced today that it will be forced to leave the state if House Bill 1224, which would ban standard capacity magazines, becomes law. The announcement was made to Governor Hickenlooper, state legislators, members of the media, and in a full-page advertisement to appear in the Denver Post on Sunday.

Richard Fitzpatrick, Founder, President, and CEO of Magpul Industries, said that regardless of any amendments that may be worked into the bill, he will no longer be able to continue to do business in Colorado if his core product is made illegal.

“Our company could not, in good conscience, continue to manufacture our products in a state where law-abiding citizens are prohibited from purchasing and owning them. ” Fitzpatrick said. “The passage of this bill will do nothing to enhance public safety, but will force us to immediately begin taking our business to another state.”

A proponent of the bill argued that with the amendment language, the choice to stay or leave was up to Magpul. Fitzpatrick responded, "Our relationship with our customers across the country would be severely damaged if this bill passes and we stay. We've already heard word of potential boycotts if that happens. They (legislators) really need to understand that our customer base is as passionate about freedoms as we are, and staying here if this bill passes would cripple the company. Make no doubt about it...we have no choice, and would be forced to leave in order to save the business."

Magpul cited the example of the Eastern Sports and Outdoors Show, which was canceled earlier this year after the organizers announced that it would not permit a popular category of firearm, like the ones Magpul makes accessories for, in the show. Public outcry from the customer base forced exhibitors to withdraw from participation, causing the cancellation of the show, and an estimated loss of $70 million of show revenue for hotels, restaurants, merchants, and other businesses in Pennsylvania, where the show was to be held.

Magpul Industries directly employs 200 people, supports another 400 supply-chain jobs, and contributes over $85 million annually to Colorado’s economy. Doug Smith, Chief Operating Officer for Magpul, says that it is a difficult position to be in. "We could choose to stay in a state that wants our jobs and revenue, but not our products, and lose half the jobs we are fighting to save, or potentially the entire business, when our customers stop buying. Or, we can take the company and those 600 jobs out of Colorado to continue our growth and the growth of American manufacturing in a state that shares our values. This is not really a choice. It's an unfortunate and inevitable result of the actions of the Legislature if this bill passes."

Magpul was started over a decade ago by Fitzpatrick, a former U.S. Marine. It has become one of Colorado’s fastest growing businesses, successfully marketing its products to American and allied military forces, police departments, sporting goods stores, and thousands of responsible private citizens. Fitzpatrick says that the rich western culture and strong values of individual freedom and responsibility, traditionally found in Colorado, were one of the reasons the company chose to remain in the state.

“It is heartbreaking to me, my employees, and their families, to think that we will be forced to leave,” Fitzpatrick said. “But if HB13-1224 passes, we will simply have no choice.”

[islandermyk]

this does break my heart......