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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    There nothing better than a day at the range, shooting targets of 6 year old boys. Man... makes me wish we had some targets of some mentally retarded kids to shoot. That would be even more fun.

    Ohhh!! I know. How about an infant or even a fetus. That would be good shooting...
    After all if it saves just one child......
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    There nothing better than a day at the range, shooting targets of 6 year old boys. Man... makes me wish we had some targets of some mentally retarded kids to shoot. That would be even more fun.
    Shooters in Active Shooter events are not limited to just adults that are not pregnant or old. Do you think Jeffco S.O. had to rethink their practices and training methods after Columbine and having kids as targets? Of course they did. I pray that an officer never has to see a target like these however when an officer does have to get a sight picture on a threat like this, he doen't have to think about it and solves the problem. It may be my kids, or yours that depends on it. No one had any issues with pictures of Sadam, UBL, or even putting up pictures of POTUS as "threats" even though they would never go to the middle east. Now people here of all places, are bitching about the realities of possible current threats here? Hypocrites. Go back to playing with your unicorns and dining with Hickenlooper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Shooters in Active Shooter events are not limited to just adults that are not pregnant or old. Do you think Jeffco S.O. had to rethink their practices and training methods after Columbine and having kids as targets? Of course they did. I pray that an officer never has to see a target like these however when an officer does have to get a sight picture on a threat like this, he doen't have to think about it and solves the problem. It may be my kids, or yours that depends on it. No one had any issues with pictures of Sadam, UBL, or even putting up pictures of POTUS as "threats" even though they would never go to the middle east. Now people here of all places, are bitching about the realities of possible current threats here? Hypocrites. Go back to playing with your unicorns and dining with Hickenlooper.

    Except FEMA is the one who ordered $2million dollars worth along with, M16's, Billions of rounds, coffins, etc..... Just doesn't smell right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    Except FEMA is the one who ordered $2million dollars worth along with, M16's, Billions of rounds, coffins, etc..... Just doesn't smell right!
    Remember Hurricane Katrina & the chaos in N.O. afterwards? I remember being required to have people pulling security on locals while I pulled bodies out of the water. Desperate people will do desperate things, regardless of age, physical condition, or pregnant. People bitched about Blackwater being on the ground there to keep personnel & food safe; all paid for by FEMA. They are just doing their job and preparing for the next crisis based upon their past experiences and cutting out the security companies and outside labor everyone was complaining about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyTTE View Post
    Holy shit, I may agree with ColoCCW on something. Dividing by zero. . .

    I read this story yesterday and this is old news, a lot of those targets, especially the pregnant gal have been around forever. Here's my short response.

    So. F**kin. What.

    I fielded those VERY targets this weekend for a CQB class to help teach discrimination skills using drill I learned at CSAT back in 2009. I paint the hands grey then replace them with full color props such as cell phones, beer bottles, tools, guns, flashlights, knives, etc. The target may also have badges on neck chains or clipped to the belt.

    This teaches the student to look at the whole person, then hands, waistline and immediate area/demeanor before firing.

    As Paul points out, a 10yo with an unzero'd AK can kill you just as dead as a steely eyed soldier. Danger comes in a lotta forms, including females, old, young and even psycho pregnant women. These targets have tremendous teaching value. Loosen your tinfoil, its cutting off circulation.

    PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PREGNANT CHICK IS HISPANIC. There are also black and other ethnic targets as well.

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    I remember encountering a pregnant woman target while I was in the academy. My wife was pregnant at the time which is kinda weird. She was pointed a revolver at me so I shot her, oddly enough I remember thinking "just don't shoot the belly" and both my rounds struck her in the chest slightly higher than center of mass. It didn't cause me to hesitate, everything flowed correctly, saw a person, looked at the hands and saw the threat as I was "sighting in" for lack of a better term I made a semi-conscience decision to avoid the belly.

    The purpose of the target is to get your out of the mindset that all bad guys will look like two pac or a hell's angel. They even used the same targets with different objects in the hands so you couldn't make your decision based on the person, you had to chose based on what they were doing.

    If you always use the same evil looking guy for a target you might have trouble shooting someone who looks "normal"

    Think about what you guys are REALLY saying when you call these targets out of line. It's along the lines of "it doesn't matter what the person is doing, it's all about what they look like, or if they have a medical condition". So cops shouldn't train to shoot kids? Who tends to do the school shootings, herm...lemme think...students the same age of the other KIDS you're trying to save.

    Yeah the cold hard truth hurts, but don't hide your eyes from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm-man View Post
    Except FEMA is the one who ordered $2million dollars worth along with, M16's, Billions of rounds, coffins, etc..... Just doesn't smell right!
    Its the "billions of rounds" that didn't smell right... Jones is either really bad at math, or running a propaganda campaign

    Investigated it myself, he manipulated the numbers on a RFQ for 240,000 rounds into 21.6 MILLION... So the 1.8B number he's throwing around now is more like 20M... But that's not scary enough to get his listeners to panic.
    That story has been run elsewhere, too... But I usually am able to trace it back to something related to Mr. Jones.

    For the record, I do think this one is legit, I'm just tired of lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublco View Post
    I really don't see a legitimate need for these, unless you're trying to desensitize the FEMA corps...or finish desensitizing them.
    I agree, I think you nailed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post

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    Hey, if you're gonna train your stormtroopers to make war on The Citizens, you need targets of Citizens, yes? I bet Hitler and Stalin would have LOVED to have Citizen targets to use, but they would have all been unarmed, of course.
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