Obama not a US citizen

[sniper7]

So a vote for the Constitution is spiteful? PUT THE GOP KOOL AID DOWN!

I understand voting for the constituition in its origional value, but what you aren't seeing is obama wants to using that same piece of paper written by the founding fathers and use it as a living document.

that means "change" to be exact. His whole idea is change. He can interpret the constitution for what it means in HIS MIND, for todays world. What is basically boils down to is he doesn't agree with the heller case. if that goes down, what comes next. all of a sudden you have to be part of the military or LEO to own a firearm? (or at least a decent one that isn't a black powder or flintlock)

When I say to spite the republicans because they put up a crappy candidate in your mind, i mean exactly that. I wish it was someone other than McCain, but at least he isn't obama. Whenever I vote i have to look at it in two ways. There is 2 of them that have a chance at winning and only 1 will win. thats the first.
next I have to think about the lesser of 2 evils. I care about my liberties and my country first. Guns are at the top of the list, and right up there is taxes and freedom of speech. The liberals seem to think only they have the freedom of speech. This can be seen by the upcoming obama visit to CSU where they don't allow signs or banners. I am considering taking one up there because that is a direct violation of freedom of speech if they enforce that.
I can easily say that a 3rd party candidate has a lot more of my values and best interests in his campaign, but i have to look at my first issue of voting and who actually has a chance.

In the end, no body cares or remembers about the 3rd party candidate and more often than not it is the reason the republicans end up losing because of a small percent. another reason i call it spiteful to vote for a 3rd party.

[ssf467]

The lesser of two evils is still evil. McCain will sign an AWB

[sniper7]

The lesser of two evils is still evil. McCain will sign an AWB

I highly doubt it. Either you can guarantee that by letting obama win by voting for someone other than Mccain or you can hope McCain does like he said he would in field and stream magazine.

McCain said he wouldn't sign one. Obama said he surely would. you choose!

[Gman]

Hell, Obama wants to change the makeup of SCOTUS to get an interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that says the Founders didn't really mean what they said.

If you want Obama, just vote for someone other than McCain.

[ssf467]

STEP ONE: The President selects a nominee

STEP TWO: The Senate confirms or rejects the nominee
Senate Confirmation Hearings: The nominee is sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Eighteen senators interview the nominee. Topics include the nominee�s qualifications and previous casework. The committee also questions witnesses who support or oppose the nomination.

Committee Vote: The committee votes on the President�s nominee. No matter the vote�s outcome, the nominee is generally sent to the Senate floor after the committee hearings.

Senate Vote: The full Senate deliberates and then votes on the nominee. A simple majority (51 votes) confirms or rejects the nominee�s appointment.

If the nominee is confirmed, the Supreme Court justice is appointed for life.

If the nominee is rejected, the President chooses another and the process is repeated.

So the GOP has been using scare tactics on the American people since 911. Terrorist will kill you if you don't give up some civil liberties. We need the Patriot Act to fight foreign terrorist,
now 1 out every 300 Americans is on the watch list.

Your food will explode in price if illegals don't pick your fruit and veggies.

The Market will collapse if you don't approve this bail out.

Obama will appoint liberal Justices. (duh)

McCain has a history of being a liberal, he will not get any conservative Judges through a Majority Senate most likely filibuster proof (60 or more Dems) The real race would be in the Senate.

So McCain will compromise as usual and nominate a moderate nominee. Oh Joy!

VIVA Liberty!

[Gman]

...and who's party holds the majority (and looks to extend it) in the Senate?

Why is it so difficult to understand that Obama+Pelosi+Reid is worse than McCain+Pelosi+Reid?

How did we end up with a majority of Dems in both the House and Senate? Somebody else must have wanted it that way. I do what I can and work to put conservatives in office for my districts and state. The Dems stick together even if they don't completely agree with their candidates. They understand incrementalism. You seem to be calling for revolutionary change in a system that promotes evolutionary change.

You are an individual in a single state. You have a single vote. You cannot change the world to fit what you think it should look like or want it be, neither can I. I think we would agree on many points, we just disagree on a realistic way to come to the desired result. Voting for a 3rd party just has us buying into the left's divide and conquer strategy.

We all understand that you're not happy. So, does this venting make you feel any better, because it sure as hell isn't accomplishing anything.

[sniper7]

I know how the election of judges works. What is not being looked as is the senate. they will have the final authority in picking the justices FOR LIFE...

democrats are destined to full own the senate by a far more majority than what is required to put a justice in his/her seat.

Obama can basically pick whoever he wants no matter how liberal they are. With the senate backing him plus all the new dem. senators who want to start making names for themselves and prove they are worthy to the Messiah, they will eagerly vote for whoever obama chooses.

If this happens, we will have lifetime justices (so probably for the next 20-30 years). The amount of justices to be picked is still to be determined, but in the end, if obama is elected we will see liberal judges. Then all we can hope for is the next time a judge is going to retire that a republican president will be in office and pick conservative judges.

In the end, it doesn't matter if McCain picks moderate judges or semi-liberal judges. He will at least have the opportunity to pick solid conservatives judges for the supreme court. At least with mccain we will have a chance. obama is a for sure loss, but mccain is at least a potential chance for a win.

Voting for someone other than mccain is a vote ahead for obama. Your vote could cancel out a obama lovers vote. If mccain doesn't get that vote, that is one more that obama will be ahead.

Colorado is a very big swing state unfortunately. after the dems dumping a shit ton of money here for political purposes it is starting to become a realization we are in question as to who will receive the our votes.

Liberty isn't free. sometimes you have to grit your teeth, bite the bullet and do something you are against in order to hope for a good outcome. nothing is certain in life other than death. I hope you see my point.

[CrazyforColorado]

So a vote for the Constitution is spiteful? PUT THE GOP KOOL AID DOWN!

People with your attitude will be the reason obamanation will probably win. It is called the protest vote. It will be a replay of those who voted for Perot. By the way, that got us clinton as President. So YOU WAKE UP!
People like you will get us obama! Do the right thing for heavens sake!!!!

[ssf467]

I vote for my party you vote for yours, that's how a Democracy works..... But my guess McCain wins. That's who the elite want in the White House.

[Gman]

Who do you define as the "Elite"? The Elitists that I'm familiar with are pushing Obama.