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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak Smith View Post
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    With due respect, and I mean that sincerely, there are a lot of people "working their butts off."

    If the conventional messages were "getting inside their world view" then we would not be losing this so badly.
    And you have done a great job, as have hundreds of others.

    Conventional wisdom (messages) does not appeal to the vast majority of liberals, but that is not the only reason the battle is tough. I have no problem with posting the truth on here, and most of the illustrations are true. But to attack them, as they expect, just reinforces their assertion that gun owners are part of the oppressors and they then beleive their job, as protectors of the oppressed, is to resist everything we say. It is circular and illogical, but winning is also about understanding your opponents goals and tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    Conventional wisdom (messages) does not appeal to the vast majority of liberals, but that is not the only reason the battle is tough. I have no problem with posting the truth on here, and most of the illustrations are true. But to attack them, as they expect, just reinforces their assertion that gun owners are part of the oppressors and they then beleive their job, as protectors of the oppressed, is to resist everything we say. It is circular and illogical, but winning is also about understanding your opponents goals and tactics.
    I think an important point here is this if you look at it from the "other" perspective:

    Conventional wisdom (messages) does not appeal to the vast majority of gun owners, but that is not the only reason the battle is tough. I have no problem with posting the truth on here, and most of the illustrations are true. But to attack them, as they expect, just reinforces their assertion that the pro gun-control people are part of the oppressors and they then believe their job, as protectors of the oppressed, is to resist everything we say. It is circular and illogical, but winning is also about understanding your opponents goals and tactics.
    This same thing could just have easily been written by someone on the other side. So, yes...we have to get into their mentality. There are various ways to do it, and many are productive.

    For some to say "this is the way it MUST be done in order to get our message out" is ridiculous and arrogant in the extreme. And attacking like-minded people simply because they disagree with a particular method, or choose to participate in some other way, is not only counter-productive, it's a surefire path to defeat.

    Some people seem to forget that a lot of folks here have been fighting over the gun-rights issue before they were even born. This isn't some recent cause du jour that liberals just adopted. It just happens that it's an appropriate time for them to bring it back to the forefront.
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