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    Quote Originally Posted by reapur View Post
    They will continue to do so. This is a touchy issue, Justin Smith, larimer sheriff has been on our side the whole time, it wouldn't be fair to stop selling to him. I guess they could go granular but that's touch in distribution.
    I agree it's complex. How do you stopped selling to a SO when they publicly condemn these types of issues? It would be very difficult/time consuming to target individual cities, state agencies etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings View Post
    I agree it's complex. How do you stopped selling to a SO when they publicly condemn these types of issues? It would be very difficult/time consuming to target individual cities, state agencies etc etc.
    I agree the SO is the wrong organization to penalize (unless it's Arapahoe County SO). If it makes Sheriff Smith, et al feel any better, he has my PMAGS to back him up if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I agree the SO is the wrong organization to penalize (unless it's Arapahoe County SO). If it makes Sheriff Smith, et al feel any better, he has my PMAGS to back him up if need be.
    See this is what I've been thinking from the get-go on this whole naughty/nice list issue... Tell me again how LEOs are responsible for the laws that politicians pass? Why penalize them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    See this is what I've been thinking from the get-go on this whole naughty/nice list issue... Tell me again how LEOs are responsible for the laws that politicians pass? Why penalize them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    I agree the SO is the wrong organization to penalize (unless it's Arapahoe County SO). If it makes Sheriff Smith, et al feel any better, he has my PMAGS to back him up if need be.
    See my post: http://www.ar-15.co/threads/90725-Naughty-and-nice-list

    I shot the website an email to see if they would make a naughty list of local/state governments who are anti 2A so that companies can reference them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    See this is what I've been thinking from the get-go on this whole naughty/nice list issue... Tell me again how LEOs are responsible for the laws that politicians pass? Why penalize them?
    Two things:
    -Blame the politicians for the law/penalty and their hypocritical application of said law.
    -I'm guessing another part of the reason to ban sales to LE as well is so that perhaps LE will hurt a bit and make a big stink with the government that passed the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Tell me again how LEOs are responsible for the laws that politicians pass? Why penalize them?
    They're responsible the same way any other law-abiding citizen is. They're not. Penalize them in order to pressure the politicians just like law-abiding citizens must do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    See this is what I've been thinking from the get-go on this whole naughty/nice list issue... Tell me again how LEOs are responsible for the laws that politicians pass? Why penalize them?
    when they testify that guns are bad and need to be banned they're absolutely part of the problem--and responsible for the anti-guns laws being passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    when they testify that guns are bad and need to be banned they're absolutely part of the problem--and responsible for the anti-guns laws being passed.
    Also this... mostly from the police chiefs who fall in line with their mayor/boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    when they testify that guns are bad and need to be banned they're absolutely part of the problem--and responsible for the anti-guns laws being passed.
    But last time I checked the CO Sheriff's came together to speak out against these bills... Some of them even testified that these laws will do nothing. Funny, it's the appointed who are stinking it up, but the CLEOs who are elected are actually accountable. Strange how "elected" lawmakers have next to no accountability to their constituents- well the democrat ones. They make me sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    But last time I checked the CO Sheriff's came together to speak out against these bills... Some of them even testified that these laws will do nothing. Funny, it's the appointed who are stinking it up, but the CLEOs who are elected are actually accountable. Strange how "elected" lawmakers have next to no accountability to their constituents- well the democrat ones. They make me sick.
    I agree the Sheriffs have been helpful to the cause, but largely ignored by the media. Look at Colorado U.S. Attorney Suthers testifying about the magazine capacity limit--all the while the DOJ report says it won't do a thing. What's the story the media reports?

    My point is this--there are plenty, and I'd even go so far as say a significant percentage, of law enforcement folks that want the citizenry disarmed and are happy to testify about it to enable the legislators to advance their agendas. This isn't an anti-fuzz commentary--it's simply a fact. That certain sympathetic Sheriffs get shat upon because chiefs are getting the airtime is not my problem. I didn't see anyone from the Larimer County Sheriff at either of the first two gun rallies. Maybe they were there for the Oath Keeper rally, but they sure as crap weren't standing tall with demonstrators at the capitol in any way, shape or form.

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