Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
So when you're carrying a video camera, you're looking for a confrontation? Because I'm trying to figure out what you think this kid did differently to draw attention that any other person OC'ing wouldn't also be doing (namely, walking around with a gun on your hip). If he was purposely going around trying to scare people, then he may have been breaking the law. But since the cop didn't arrest him, I assume that wasn't the case. He was literally just minding his own business, and had a video camera (probably his cell phone) on him, and was ready to use it.
Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
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Ronin I actually think we are assuming a lot that the kid was looking for a confrontation. From the video what I get is:

Guy is walking down the street, folks call the cops- we are actually assuming that based on the officers statement, we do not KNOW that the cop didnt see the guy walking along and made the stop, then backed it up with a BS story about complaints. See? I can ASSume as well.

Cop relieves the citizen of his weapon, which apparently the citizen did with no drama. The citizen gets concerned this might not be going his way, and starts recording.

Cop makes a lot of stupid mistakes- Citizen gets a little testy and just wants to go.

Thinking it over again, I would have not even been as nice as the citizen and probably would have gone to jail, because the cop was full of shit.

Bullshit open carry is "asking for it", any more than driving a red Corvette is "asking for it". No excuse for this behavior.

Seriously, step away from the cop juice.

So either BACK THE 2nd, or get off this bus ok?
To point out in both of these... are you both going to throw a hissy fit and start phoning lawyers if you OC and someone calls the cops? I never said the cop in the video was right- in fact I believe he was wrong from the start. But the kid's attitude and reaction could have been better. So because he's standing up for his rights, but doing it in a less than effective (and IMHO dickish) way I have to "back him or get off the bus"? I'm simply trying to convey the point that Open carry is very likely to attract unwanted/unneeded attention from "concerned" yet uninformed citizens, and possible LE. Again, I don't believe this is right, but it is what it is... I for one support OC, I just choose not to do it out in public very often, and I'm very selective as to where I do for the fact that I don't want the attention that comes with it. dwalker, I never said someone OCing is "asking for it" I'm simply saying thanks to our current society and social atmosphere if you OC in an area like Downtown Arvada or any other populated area, you can expect the possibility that someone will call 911. I seriously don't understand how you guys can't grasp this simple point I'm trying to make and accept it... or are you just wanting to argue with me?