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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog1911 View Post
    Well let's make sure that it is well received. I could remove the portion directly aimed at Morse.

    Why? He is a bastard with no respect the laws of our country. Let's say that the left is successful here and nationwide is removing our gun rights, Mr.Morse would be one of the players who would relish the power that he has. He would be the type to oversee reeducation and indoctrination camps. The man has ambitions for ruling over people.To say I am the one to grant rights shows what type POS we are dealing with. He does not grant shit, his kind will be the ones who bring down this great country. It's sad this man is in his position, regardless of what happens he and is like are exposed for what they are. Morse is term limited for 2014. Watch where he goes next. Either way i sense a very evil man in Morse.

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    Very nice. I appreciate your efforts!

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    Hey, if I thought it would help, I'd tell Morse to FOAD right on the senate floor. But we need to persuade the Senate as a whole, not turn them away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog1911 View Post
    Hey, if I thought it would help, I'd tell Morse to FOAD right on the senate floor. But we need to persuade the Senate as a whole, not turn them away.
    Agreed but we are dealing with some evil people with darker motives. As they stated they are just getting started.

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    I've made some more revisions:

    I have come here today, specifically, to voice my vehement opposition to Sen. Morse’s proposed bill, the Assault Weapon Responsibility Act. Never in my time have I seen a more misguided and unconstitutional law proposed in the great state of Colorado.
    Firstly, Sen. Morse and Rep. Fields are broadly expanding the definition of what they would call an assault weapon, by including any and all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. Even a single shot rifle or shotgun, as defined in this law, is an assault weapon.
    The most egregious part of this law would turn any law abiding citizen into a criminal, if someone that they sold one of these weapons to used it in the commission of a crime, even without their knowing the intent. At no time in the history of the United States, has a law been proposed to hold the innocent accountable for the crimes of another, when they had nothing to do with the crime.
    What is next; if someone sells a car to another person and that person kills someone by drinking and driving, will the seller of the car be held responsible? What about someone who sells a pool; those kill far more people every year than gun violence.
    I call on the Colorado Senate to reject ALL of these unjust and unconstitutional gun control laws, and for once to actually focus on punishing the criminals, and not the well-intentioned citizens!

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    I applaud your efforts and wish you best for all of us tomorrow.
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    Pools do not kill more people than guns.. just sayin'.. Stick to facts and stay away from direct attacks. This is a debate, personal attacks in your testimony will be taken as being adversarial and will diminish the relevancy of anything else you have said.

    Last stats I could find were roughly 3500 people die per year from drowning.. The older you get the more likely your drowning was in a natural body of water. More than half (roughly 57%) of drownings if people over the age of 15 were in natural water which leaves about 1600 people drowning in pools. 12k-13k people die from guns each year.
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    Def, we are both partially right; accidental deaths by pools are higher than firearms. I'll look for another analogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog1911 View Post
    Def, we are both partially right; accidental deaths by pools are higher than firearms. I'll look for another analogy.
    Yes.. but none of these laws are being brought forth in regards to accidental deaths. I like the drunk driving analogy, most people are ok with going out and having a bottle of wine with dinner and then driving home. The analogy is that more people die each year in alcohol related accidents than by guns. Getting in a car after drinking is akin to randomly shooting a gun into a crowd. You might hit someone and kill them, you might not. However.. with drunk driving you can sue the bar that served the driver so even this isn't the best analogy in the world either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Pools do not kill more people than guns.. just sayin'.. Stick to facts and stay away from direct attacks. This is a debate, personal attacks in your testimony will be taken as being adversarial and will diminish the relevancy of anything else you have said.

    Last stats I could find were roughly 3500 people die per year from drowning.. The older you get the more likely your drowning was in a natural body of water. More than half (roughly 57%) of drownings if people over the age of 15 were in natural water which leaves about 1600 people drowning in pools. 12k-13k people die from guns each year.
    here are some good facts=

    · From2005-2009, there were an average of 3,533 fatal unintentional drownings(non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day.An additional 347 people died each year from drowning in boating-relatedincidents.2
    · Aboutone in five people who die from drowning are children 14 and younger.2 Forevery child who dies from drowning, another five receive emergency departmentcare for nonfatal submersion injuries.1
    · Morethan 50% of drowning victims treated in emergency departments (EDs) requirehospitalization or transfer for further care (compared with a hospitalizationrate of about 6% for all unintentional injuries).1,2 Thesenonfatal drowning injuries can cause severe brain damage that may result inlong-term disabilities such as memory problems, learning disabilities, andpermanent loss of basic functioning (e.g., permanent vegetative state).3,4


    and then these facts


    Since the massacre at Sandy HookElementary in Newtown, Conn., on Dec. 14, Democrats have made reinstatement ofthe assault weapons ban a major priority for the 113th Congress despite thefact that relatively few murders are killed with weapons that would be banned.

    From 2005 through 2011, more people in the U.S. were killed with hammers andclubs, or with hands and fists, than with rifles, which is what the ban likelywould have the most effect on, reports
    Breitbart.

    There were 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs in 2011, as comparedwith 323 deaths connected to a rifle, according to FBI records. In 2006, therewere 618 killings committed with a hammer or club, and 438 murders with arifle. Many years, twice as many people were killed with hands and fists thanwith rifles.

    “While the FBI makes is clear that some of the ‘murder by rifle’ numbers couldbe adjusted up slightly, when you take into account murders withnon-categorized types of guns,” wrote Awr Hawkins, continuing that “it does notchange the fact that their annual reports consistently show more lives aretaken each year with these blunt objects than are taken with Feinstein'sdreaded rifle.”


    So why are they not talking about banning pistols right now? They killed most of the 12-13k people you mentioned??????? Wake up there is an agenda here to take our equalizers to counter tyranny. Why is the govt trying to take away our weapons while buying billions rounds of ammo? There are darker plans at work and Colorado is the battlefront.
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