Form 1 question

[Great-Kazoo]

Not to hijack the thread, but do you build the upper BEFORE you apply or after you get the approval? What if something (availability, etc) changes between your intent on the form and the actual implementation a year later when you get approval?

See my reply above your post. SHORTEST BBL CONFIG.

[Random]

...you will be too busy building uppers for your SBR and looking at suppressors.

*sigh* I believe you are correct. Why have one contact point when you can have three? Quietly?

Thanks for the help, and apologies to the OP if my hijack took this too far off his topic!

[electronman1729]

Just build/buy a AR pistol and the problem is solved! Plus you have something to shoot, and work out the kinks on

[O2HeN2]

If you want to read a lively debate on this topic go here: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/60985-P...with-NFA-items Read the whole thing because there's a LOT of absolutely crappy advice being thrown around in that thread.

I don't quite understand the repeated "shortest barrel length" comment. Once you have an SBR you can temporarily put any any length upper on it you want -- longer or shorter. If you make a "permanent" change (in other words you sell the original barrel length that you specified on the Form 1) you have to notify the ATF, that's all.

Just make sure you always have the pieces to configure what's listed on your Form 1 (or "permanent modification" letter).

O2

[Eric P]

Thanks for your answer O2HeN2 on the modularness of the AR-15 and what is needed.

On 4h. Should I have put the name of the trust and home town? I left it blank. I haven't sent them off yet and can make this change if needed.

[Lurch]

On 4h. Should I have put the name of the trust and home town? I left it blank. I haven't sent them off yet and can make this change if needed.

Yes plus the state.

[Great-Kazoo]

If you want to read a lively debate on this topic go here: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/60985-P...with-NFA-items Read the whole thing because there's a LOT of absolutely crappy advice being thrown around in that thread.

I don't quite understand the repeated "shortest barrel length" comment. Once you have an SBR you can temporarily put any any length upper on it you want -- longer or shorter. If you make a "permanent" change (in other words you sell the original barrel length that you specified on the Form 1) you have to notify the ATF, that's all.

Just make sure you always have the pieces to configure what's listed on your Form 1 (or "permanent modification" letter).

O2

That's why i suggest the shortest bbl. This way once it's approved, shelve the bbl and do what you want. Why dick around with notifying ATF for anything, other than a check on your paperwork?

Fotunately we all have an opinion, crappy or not it's merely an 'opinion"

[sako55]

couple of links to help with filling out the form.

Don't forget the certificate of compliance just to be safe

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/form1.html

http://wethearmed.com/class-iii/atf-...ggpcr5q8vih776

[O2HeN2]

That's why i suggest the shortest bbl. This way once it's approved, shelve the bbl and do what you want. Why dick around with notifying ATF for anything, other than a check on your paperwork?

My confusion arises from the insistence on the shortest barrel. If you're just going to shelve it (nothing wrong with that) what difference does it make if it's 4" or a 15" barrel sitting on the shelf?

O2

[68Guy]

Just build/buy a AR pistol and the problem is solved! Plus you have something to shoot, and work out the kinks on

Just a reminder - from all my research, everything I have seen posted says that you have to start with a stripped receiver that has never BEEN built from the factory as a rifle to build your pistol lower. Can never have been registered as a rifle. Get a stripped lower, get it engraved, make sure the engraving is correct then submit your Form 1 with that serial number. You can then build the lower as a pistol with a pistol buffer and attach your upper with a <16" barrel and it is a pistol. Do NOT have "spare parts" to attach a rifle stock at this point and just wait till you get your approved Form 1 stamp back then it can get a rifle stock into an SBR. I assume if I mis quoted ANYTHING, there are enough members that will correct me but I am pretty confident this is correct (well I HOPE it is as that is exactly what I did).