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anyways, get over yourself. if you can't, I'll wrestle you for it.as long as you were the required uniform [ROFL2]
College park is rough as fuck
Trying to keep this thread on topic here
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KestrelBike
07-11-2013, 07:51
^^^ +1. Totally agree; the defense wants acquittal of all charges and not a mistrial. I heard earlier on Hannity that the Judge is considering allowing the prosecution to reduce the charge from Murder 2 to manslaughter. I understand that is judicial discretion, but not often allowed.
The fox article I read said that the defense is arguing that GZ knew what he was doing when he pulled the gun and then the trigger, he did it to defend his life, so there is no case for manslaughter: either say its murder or acquit him.
I have to agree given all I've seen, but I think the cards are stacked politically against GZ and they do not want to let an acquittal happen under any circumstances. I sure hope it does just so a huge apocalyptic riot can occur LOL.
I do think that Alx and cofi got picked on by wrestlers ( Alx got picked on by inner city wrestlers which is waaaay worse).
I do think that Alx and cofi got picked on by wrestlers ( Alx got picked on by inner city wrestlers which is waaaay worse).i got picked on by crips and bloods . not a wrestler in the bunch but a lot of very dangerous kids with weapons
Boadie30
07-11-2013, 08:18
Murder 2, Manslaughter or 3rd degree felony murder.....parking violation, Jay walking, littering etc.....[Mad]
how long till the verdict is in ?
Bailey Guns
07-11-2013, 08:31
It won't even go to the jury before the end of the day Fri at the earliest. Probably not til Mon or later. There are closing arguments, jury instructions, etc. It'll be a few more days.
palepainter
07-11-2013, 08:39
This trial is a sham. They are now allowing the jury to decide what level of crime he is guilty of, rather than the original accusation of second degree murder. Apparently the judge is allowing the jury to adjust the level of guilt to something that will satisfy the hoards and masses of those who will not be happy with Zimmerman getting off of the 2nd degree murder charge.
This trial is a sham. They are now allowing the jury to decide what level of crime he is guilty of, rather than the original accusation of second degree murder. Apparently the judge is allowing the jury to adjust the level of guilt to something that will satisfy the hoards and masses of those who will not be happy with Zimmerman getting off of the 2nd degree murder charge.that seem illegal but as long as it happens in front of everyone i guess its ok [hahhah-no]
This trial is a sham. They are now allowing the jury to decide what level of crime he is guilty of, rather than the original accusation of second degree murder. Apparently the judge is allowing the jury to adjust the level of guilt to something that will satisfy the hoards and masses of those who will not be happy with Zimmerman getting off of the 2nd degree murder charge.
Thats not uncommon. If you are originally charged with murder they can find you guilty of a lesser charge like manslaughter.
Manslauter has been on the table along with murder 2 from the start..
Sounds like aggravated assault is on the menu as well. The state wants a conviction of something, even if it's not murder.
If he's acquitted, and there are riots, I may have to actually watch TV for the first time in years...
I'm not a lawyer, nor did I ever play one on TV, but I thought the state only filed charges of Murder 2 on this guy. I thought they could only convict of the charges filed, not drum up some lesser charge half way through the case. Doesn't he have a right to defend against charges of murder 3, manslaughter, assault, etc.? Or am I completely mistaken on this? [Dunno]
RblDiver
07-11-2013, 09:28
There will be riots no matter what
I'm inclined to agree with you, either "HE WAS ACQUITTED LET'S GO GET THEM EVIL CRACKAS!" or "HE IS GUILTY LET'S GO CELEBRATE AGAINST THEM EVIL CRACKAS!"
RblDiver
07-11-2013, 09:31
I'm not a lawyer, nor did I ever play one on TV, but I thought the state only filed charges of Murder 2 on this guy. I thought they could only convict of the charges filed, not drum up some lesser charge half way through the case. Doesn't he have a right to defend against charges of murder 3, manslaughter, assault, etc.? Or am I completely mistaken on this? [Dunno]
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/
"After convincing the judge presiding over George Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial to allow jurors to consider manslaughter, prosecutors sent the neighborhood watch volunteer’s defense lawyer into a rage by asking the judge to also include felony murder -- based on child abuse -- in the jury instructions."
"Judge Debra Nelson did not rule on the prosecution's request that juror's be able to consider the felony murder charge based on child abuse. Under felony murder statutes, a defendant can be charged with murder if he or she causes someone's death while committing a felony, in this case, according to the prosecution, child abuse."
(In other news, I'm actually slightly impressed with Fox; when I copied and pasted those two snippets, it automatically added a line saying "Read more at foxnewsblahblah". I edited it out, but still, having that sort of thing automatically embedded is an interesting and somewhat unusual feature)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/
"After convincing the judge presiding over George Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial to allow jurors to consider manslaughter, prosecutors sent the neighborhood watch volunteer’s defense lawyer into a rage by asking the judge to also include felony murder -- based on child abuse -- in the jury instructions."
"Judge Debra Nelson did not rule on the prosecution's request that juror's be able to consider the felony murder charge based on child abuse. Under felony murder statutes, a defendant can be charged with murder if he or she causes someone's death while committing a felony, in this case, according to the prosecution, child abuse."
(In other news, I'm actually slightly impressed with Fox; when I copied and pasted those two snippets, it automatically added a line saying "Read more at foxnewsblahblah". I edited it out, but still, having that sort of thing automatically embedded is an interesting and somewhat unusual feature)
But that doesn't answer my question though... I thought they need to drum up the charges (and possible secondary/lesser charges) prior to going to trial so that the defense can prepare to defend on that case. I didn't think you could bring in lesser charges after the trial had already begun.
RblDiver
07-11-2013, 09:46
But that doesn't answer my question though... I thought they need to drum up the charges (and possible secondary/lesser charges) prior to going to trial so that the defense can prepare to defend on that case. I didn't think you could bring in lesser charges after the trial had already begun.
I guess you can (at least in Florida), though indeed it sounds very, very dumb (like trying to do the double-jeopardy).
Sounds like BS to me. I can see if you plead down to a lesser charge to get your sentence cut down or something like that if you know you are guilty, but this is BS by the prosecution and the judge. this is becoming more and more of an "appease the people/media" than a murder trial by a jury of GZ's peers.
Bailey Guns
07-11-2013, 10:04
Many times a judge will instruct a jury that they can find a defendant guilty of lesser included charges. For example, from DUI to DWAI. But the elements of the offense still need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As someone else pointed out, the defense contends manslaughter is not an appropriate charge because Z acted knowingly and intentionally when he shot TM. If that's not an element of the offense in manslaughter it shouldn't be instructed as a lesser included offense.
Then again, I'm not an attorney and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. So I could be completely wrong on that.
This whole thing is a politically motivated goat-fuck that goes way higher than the DA's office in Florida.
Zimmerman will either be acquitted or, if he's found guilty of something, I think the defense has numerous grounds on which to appeal...not the least of which is the behavior of the judge.
i got picked on by crips and bloods . not a wrestler in the bunch but a lot of very dangerous kids with weapons
I didn't mean anything personal Alx...I was just rolling with it pics and all.
I didn't mean anything personal Alx...I was just rolling with it pics and all.i didnt take it personal at all [Beer]
my funny bone is kinda out of whack today .........no wait , what i really meant to say was
31351
[ROFL3]
Chad4000
07-11-2013, 11:40
Didn't read the whole thread, but am I the only one that doesnt see even one real riot come from this??? I dont see the.. ahem... organization in place to move folks en masse.
if anybody riots it will only be the dumbest of people who will for the most part mess up their own stuff and each other.
Great-Kazoo
07-11-2013, 12:23
HAVE these PC fukers sunk to an all time low in this case or what??
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/george-zimmermans-prosecutors-want-charge-151900966.html
Richard Mantei, one prosecutor in the case, explained, "When one commits ... child abuse, and the child dies — the child being defined as a person under the age of 18 — that can constitute felony murder in the third degree." Judge Debra Nelson noted that child abuse must be intentional. "Shooting is an intentional act. The question is whether is was justifiable, not intentional," Mantei responded.
HEY HERE'S AN IDEA.
iF YOU THE JURY BELIEVE GEORGE ZIMMERMAN SHOT TRADEMARK You can find him guilty of child abuse
RblDiver
07-11-2013, 12:25
Thankfully the judge turned that particular one down.
Great-Kazoo
07-11-2013, 12:41
Thankfully the judge turned that particular one down.
No she didn't. She just put that on a back burner. I'm sure once she gets a call from DC that will be Plan D
Judge Nelson shelved the discussion until later. The court will spend the rest of the morning solidifying the jury's instruction, and closing arguments begin at 1:00 p.m.
RblDiver
07-11-2013, 12:43
After lunch, Nelson ruled against the third-degree inclusion.
“I just don’t think the evidence supports that,” Nelson said in her ruling, in a win for the defense.
Great-Kazoo
07-11-2013, 13:29
After lunch, Nelson ruled against the third-degree inclusion.
“I just don’t think the evidence supports that,” Nelson said in her ruling, in a win for the defense.
Thx 4 the update. these fukers are clutching at anything. Sad day indeed.
prosecutor's closing argument sucks and is making me angry
This whole thing is a politically motivated goat-fuck that goes way higher than the DA's office in Florida.
You mean like the whole Obama speech- now dubbed the "If I had a son..." speech? Just heard on Glenn Beck "when Obama said if he had a son he would look like Trayvon, was he insinuating that all black people look alike? No Mr. Obama, if you had a son he would look like a mix between you and Michelle. Unless Obama was sleeping with Trayvon's mom, then his son would probably look like Trayvon." [ROFL1]
Whistler
07-11-2013, 13:52
prosecutor's closing argument sucks and is making me angry
The entire charade made me angry from Day 1... [soap]
battle_sight_zero
07-11-2013, 14:13
prosecutor's closing argument sucks and is making me angry
Me too, did you notice on the slide that the prosecution put out that they are saying Zimmermans gun was overloaded....basically implying that he one in chamber for one thing only to kill. Never heard that before that your gun is overloaded if one is in the chamber. SOBs all the way around I dont see how these guys can sleep at night.
battle_sight_zero
07-11-2013, 14:19
Ps I suspect these DAs carry. I bet if they were attacked the same way they would do the same thing.
had mama bear straddle me with her knees in my armpits like zimmerman discribed i could get to my gun no problem
RblDiver
07-11-2013, 15:12
The prosecutor says that Zimmerman profiled Martin, and yet he does the same thing! "Skittles that he didn't even steal from the 7-11!"
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/11/racist-much-zimmerman-trial-prosecutor-notes-martin-didnt-even-steal-skittles-video/
battle_sight_zero
07-11-2013, 15:47
[MOD: Inappropriate pic removed. Don't do that again!]
The prosecutor says that Zimmerman profiled Martin, and yet he does the same thing! "Skittles that he didn't even steal from the 7-11!"
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/11/racist-much-zimmerman-trial-prosecutor-notes-martin-didnt-even-steal-skittles-video/
Chad4000
07-11-2013, 15:51
The prosecutor says that Zimmerman profiled Martin, and yet he does the same thing! "Skittles that he didn't even steal from the 7-11!"
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/11/racist-much-zimmerman-trial-prosecutor-notes-martin-didnt-even-steal-skittles-video/
omg .... thats funny right there
Zundfolge
07-11-2013, 15:56
The prosecutor says that Zimmerman profiled Martin...
Actually it was Martin that profiled Zimmerman ... "crazy ass cracker"
JMBD2112
07-11-2013, 15:58
Actually it was Martin that profiled Zimmerman ... "crazy ass cracker"
I thought it was creepy ass cracker?
Singlestack
07-11-2013, 16:04
I find this whole case very chilling for those who carry. Even if you are involved in a "clean shoot", your life may well be ruined - maybe even loss of your life - if the victim is a different race than you and black. Of course, this has to be a positive outcome for the antis. When you have the president, most of the print and TV media, and the self-appointed black leaders (Sharpton/Jackson/etc) demanding a guilty verdict before the trial starts, that is incitement of violence. Although I don't wish for riots, should it come to that this will be a major race setback between blacks/whites and perhaps blacks/hispanics.
Zundfolge
07-11-2013, 16:04
I thought it was creepy ass cracker?
I stand corrected ... I'm not an expert on the rantings of violent racists :p
Stop with the "Cracker" remarks. Someone's feelings will get hurt, and this thread will be locked.
which is why i always find it disturbing how some on here talk about pulling their piece anytime someone ruffles their feathers. putting yourself in the court's hands is a baaaaaaad idea. i hope this case, if nothing else, reminds those of us that carry what a big responsibility it really is.
the problem here is that we don't know it was a "clean shoot". there is basically no solid evidence either way, if there was just one witness that actively saw the fight go down this wouldn't be such a big deal, the issue is that no one wants a person to get off scot free if it was some racially motivated murder. and of course we don't want a completely innocent guy to spend any time in prison either. everyone has a bias in this case, but if you really look at all the evidence is amazing how such a thing can happen and no one know how it really went down. i definitely don't think there is enough evidence to convict, not even close. but i also don't think there is enough for me to say without a doubt that it happened just as GZ says it did.
I find this whole case very chilling for those who carry. Even if you are involved in a "clean shoot", your life may well be ruined - maybe even loss of your life - if the victim is a different race than you and black. Of course, this has to be a positive outcome for the antis. When you have the president, most of the print and TV media, and the self-appointed black leaders (Sharpton/Jackson/etc) demanding a guilty verdict before the trial starts, that is incitement of violence. Although I don't wish for riots, should it come to that this will be a major race setback between blacks/whites and perhaps blacks/hispanics.
I find this whole case very chilling for those who carry. Even if you are involved in a "clean shoot", your life may well be ruined - maybe even loss of your life - if the victim is a different race than you and black. Of course, this has to be a positive outcome for the antis. When you have the president, most of the print and TV media, and the self-appointed black leaders (Sharpton/Jackson/etc) demanding a guilty verdict before the trial starts, that is incitement of violence. Although I don't wish for riots, should it come to that this will be a major race setback between blacks/whites and perhaps blacks/hispanics.
I agree with those that say the last 5 years of Obama being president has set us back 40 years in race relations. This whole trial is just another step on that path.
which is why i always find it disturbing how some on here talk about pulling their piece anytime someone ruffles their feathers. putting yourself in the court's hands is a baaaaaaad idea. i hope this case, if nothing else, reminds those of us that carry what a big responsibility it really is.
Who on here have said they'll "pull their piece" whenever someone ruffles their feathers? Really? I have yet to hear that...
I think this whole debacle should serve as a reminder/warning to those of us who carry: unless it directly involves the safety of you and yours, keep your nose (and your gun) out of it. We all want to have our communities back, but NEWSFLASH! your community will not have your back. It sucks to say but that is the reality of our country today.
Also, learn to fight. If GZ knew a simple mount escape we probably wouldn't even be talking about this.
Stop with the "Cracker" remarks. Someone's feelings will get hurt, and this thread will be locked.
I think it should simply be the "C-word". Otherwise, let me start fully enunciating other words that are abbreviated...
So he killed a person and can walk free?
you just will not stop trolling this site huh?????
Great-Kazoo
07-11-2013, 16:39
So he killed a person and can walk free?
[facepalm]
RonMexico
07-11-2013, 16:41
I find this whole case very chilling for those who carry. Even if you are involved in a "clean shoot", your life may well be ruined - maybe even loss of your life - if the victim is a different race than you and black. Of course, this has to be a positive outcome for the antis. When you have the president, most of the print and TV media, and the self-appointed black leaders (Sharpton/Jackson/etc) demanding a guilty verdict before the trial starts, that is incitement of violence. Although I don't wish for riots, should it come to that this will be a major race setback between blacks/whites and perhaps blacks/hispanics.
A lawyer once told me that you better have 20k in saving and a ton of free time to fight court battles even if you are on the right side of the law. It's sad that in today's society you are "more guilt, until proven innocent".
Does anyone know the statistics on the cost to fight a concealed carry defense case or how long the average lenght of most court trials and litigation drag on for?
Great-Kazoo
07-11-2013, 16:42
I think this whole debacle should serve as a reminder/warning to those of us who carry: unless it directly involves the safety of you and yours, keep your nose (and your gun) out of it. We all want to have our communities back, but NEWSFLASH! your community will not have your back. It sucks to say but that is the reality of our country today.
Also, learn to fight. If GZ knew a simple mount escape we probably wouldn't even be talking about this.
Really, learn to fight? Any specific style you'd like everyone to be proficient in? Should i start some MMA basics, ken po, judo, karate, krav maga. What in your infinite wisdom should "I" become master of?
How about those in wheel chairs and walkers, carrying oxygen, the blind, paraplegic's etc? Not everyone is an able bodied man or woman.
Mount this.
So he killed a person and can walk free?
you just will not stop trolling this site huh?????
You've seen this idiots other posts also huh?
RblDiver
07-11-2013, 16:50
You've seen this idiots other posts also huh?
He's sure trying to troll the place hard. In the course of just a few minutes he's racking up the post count, trying to leave a mark before the banhammer.
Whistler
07-11-2013, 16:54
Really, learn to fight? Any specific style you'd like everyone to be proficient in? Should i start some MMA basics, ken po, judo, karate, krav maga. What in your infinite wisdom should "I" become master of?
How about those in wheel chairs and walkers, carrying oxygen, the blind, paraplegic's etc? Not everyone is an able bodied man or woman.
Mount this.
[ROFL2]
Geez, I didn't think that would be that controversial of a topic. Sorry to have offended you.
Really, learn to fight? Any specific style you'd like everyone to be proficient in? Should i start some MMA basics, ken po, judo, karate, krav maga. What in your infinite wisdom should "I" become master of?
How about those in wheel chairs and walkers, carrying oxygen, the blind, paraplegic's etc? Not everyone is an able bodied man or woman.
Mount this.
Whistler
07-11-2013, 17:19
I think this whole debacle should serve as a reminder/warning to those of us who carry: unless it directly involves the safety of you and yours, keep your nose (and your gun) out of it. We all want to have our communities back, but NEWSFLASH! your community will not have your back. It sucks to say but that is the reality of our country today.
Also, learn to fight. If GZ knew a simple mount escape we probably wouldn't even be talking about this.
I think the only thing this should serve as a reminder of political opportunists aside is that IF you carry be prepared to use it (and all that entails) otherwise rethink the responsibility. The "reality of our country today" is exactly what is at issue here.
Bailey Guns
07-11-2013, 17:22
Also, learn to fight. If GZ knew a simple mount escape we probably wouldn't even be talking about this.
Exactly. It's Zimmerman's fault that some hood thug decides to give him a beat down. [/sarcasm]
FFS.
there have been more than a few "stories" where people were an inch away from pulling their carry when the sitution didn't warrant it at all. and most people have no problem with it. well, situations like this are why you have to be incredibly safe.
I agree with those that say the last 5 years of Obama being president has set us back 40 years in race relations. This whole trial is just another step on that path.
Who on here have said they'll "pull their piece" whenever someone ruffles their feathers? Really? I have yet to hear that...
Great-Kazoo
07-11-2013, 17:33
Geez, I didn't think that would be that controversial of a topic. Sorry to have offended you.
Not offended just amazed at your Learn to fight statement. Yet instead of answering my ?? You offer an apology. Weak.
Bailey Guns
07-11-2013, 17:34
Or maybe Zimmerman got what was coming to him for being a white Hispanic.
Not offended just amazed at your Learn to fight statement. Yet instead of answering my ?? You offer an apology. Weak.
I was trying not to provoke you and further derail this thread.
Obviously I don't think that people on oxygen need to be kickboxing, or paraplegics need to be perfecting their trap and roll. And yes, I do think that able bodied men that carry guns would be well served to learn some fighting basics.
For the record, I believe that GZ should be acquitted. He was obviously acting in self defense against a thug out looking for a fight.
Can we not agree that GZ (an able bodied man) would have been better off if he were able to scramble out from under TM? That seems obvious to me, but maybe my post count is too low to have a valid opinion.
Zundfolge
07-11-2013, 18:04
Or maybe Zimmerman got what was coming to him for being a white Hispanic.
No, he was singled out for prosecution by government and media because his last name sounds Jewish. This is what happens when The Muslim Brotherhood runs the White House and DOJ.
Great-Kazoo
07-11-2013, 18:11
I was trying not to provoke you and further derail this thread.
Obviously I don't think that people on oxygen need to be kickboxing, or paraplegics need to be perfecting their trap and roll. And yes, I do think that able bodied men that carry guns would be well served to learn some fighting basics.
For the record, I believe that GZ should be acquitted. He was obviously acting in self defense against a thug out looking for a fight.
Can we not agree that GZ (an able bodied man) would have been better off if he were able to scramble out from under TM? That seems obvious to me, but maybe my post count is too low to have a valid opinion.
Agree to a point. I've seen the smallest person overcome the biggest one on the block. Personally had he stayed put, this may or may not have happened.
With that being said, no matter how good or bad a shape he was or should have been in. The Lynch Mob mentality of this administration, the DOJ and usual bomb throwers puts this country in a very precarious position.
What better way to advance gun control than with Z's prosecution.
And yes, I do think that able bodied men that carry guns would be well served to learn some fighting basics.
This I can go with, your previous statement about how we all (able bodied men, thanks for that correction) should learn how to fight is just an asinine argument. Yes learning a martial art is beneficial and a very healthy option (good workout!), but it is just that, a good idea, not everyone should be expected to be a "fighter" and not everyone should be expected to learn some basics. Some don't due to personal, financial, and time reasons, among others, and that's why many carry guns, to defend themselves because fighting just isn't an option, or they perhaps never want to get into a fight -well no one should want to get into a fight- I sure don't, and I know a bit more than just the basics and don't care to ever have to use that knowledge/skill.
How about those in wheel chairs and walkers, carrying oxygen, the blind, paraplegic's etc? Not everyone is an able bodied man or woman.
+1
God created man. Samuel Colt made them equal.
The prosecutor says that Zimmerman profiled Martin, and yet he does the same thing! "Skittles that he didn't even steal from the 7-11!"
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/11/racist-much-zimmerman-trial-prosecutor-notes-martin-didnt-even-steal-skittles-video/
I'm pretty sure that the prosecutor mentioned that the Skittles (TM) weren't stolen by Trayvon (TM) to reinforce his point that the only crime Trayvon (TM) committed was having the Skittles (TM).
That being said, I'm rather pleased that everyone in the world seems to have missed the point of that very poorly delivered sentence. Makes the prosecution look bad and that is okay with me.
Zundfolge
07-12-2013, 08:50
I'm pretty sure that the prosecutor mentioned that the Skittles (TM) weren't stolen by Trayvon (TM) to reinforce his point that the only crime Trayvon (TM) committed was having the Skittles (TM).
The irony is that the skittles and the Arizona iced tea are ingredients in an urban street drug called "Lean" or "Purple Drank" (which the autopsy showed the prolonged use of which had already done some damage to sweet innocent lil' Trayvon's brain).
How would skittles and ice tea mess you up?
Zundfolge
07-12-2013, 09:03
How would skittles and ice tea mess you up?
Mixed with prescription-strength cough syrup containing codeine and promethazine it'll get you pretty high apparently.
(which the autopsy showed the prolonged use of which had already done some damage to sweet innocent lil' Trayvon's brain).
Can you provide a link for that
Oh and its sprite jolly ranchers and promethazine not ice tea and skittles it's like you guys don't listen to rap at all :D
Can you provide a link for that
Ya, it's Fiday and all.....[LOL]
Zundfolge
07-12-2013, 09:16
Can you provide a link for that
Here's a link. (http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/why-did-trayvon-martins-funeral-director-lie-more-lies-and-agendas-exposed/)
Oh and its sprite jolly ranchers and promethazine not ice tea and skittles it's like you guys don't listen to rap at all :D
Its my understanding that Lean is often made with Arizona Watermelon Iced Tea* and Skittles (along with a bottle of Robitussin). But I'll gladly admit I know little of hip-hop culture.
*Side note, isn't selling Watermelon Iced Tea to black people racist?
Mixed with prescription-strength cough syrup containing codeine and promethazine it'll get you pretty high apparently.
Yep! I have friends that did that crap in high school- it's called tripple C (Coricedine Cold & Cough- sp?).
Oh and its sprite jolly ranchers and promethazine not ice tea and skittles it's like you guys don't listen to rap at all :D
RAP= Retards Attempting Poetry. So no, I don't listen to rap. [Coffee]
funkymonkey1111
07-12-2013, 09:21
Drank!
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/
Yep! I have friends that did that crap in high school- it's called tripple C (Coricedine Cold & Cough- sp?).
RAP= Retards Attempting Poetry. So no, I don't listen to rap. [Coffee]
Just remember kids, you can't spell CRAP without RAP...[ROFL1]
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=AsANbNz0W_c&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAsANbNz0W_c
DavieD55
07-12-2013, 09:30
This whole saga is BS and it shouldn't even be televised... no one should even know about it and the only reason we do is because it is being used as a calculated ploy of divide and conquer.
Just remember kids, you can't spell CRAP without RAP...[ROFL1]
My point exactly! [Beer]
bellavite1
07-12-2013, 09:48
Geez, I didn't think that would be that controversial of a topic. Sorry to have offended you.
Tell you what: I had my fair share too, but I feel that , for those of us who carry, and are able bodies, it is not a bad advice.
I for one would not mind polishing the few skills I have, so I will ask the same question, this time seriously: anybody cares to suggest a discipline that would have helped in this scenario so that Z would have not had to use deadly force?
I am more than interested in taking classes.
Great-Kazoo
07-12-2013, 10:10
Tell you what: I had my fair share too, but I feel that , for those of us who carry, and are able bodies, it is not a bad advice.
I for one would not mind polishing the few skills I have, so I will ask the same question, this time seriously: anybody cares to suggest a discipline that would have helped in this scenario so that Z would have not had to use deadly force?
I am more than interested in taking classes.
Avoidance is the only option.
Avoidance is the only option.
Agreed.....supposed zimmerman was a bad ass wrestler slammed travon on that sidewalk popped something in martins brain and killed him????
Walk away until you have no other choice
Zundfolge
07-12-2013, 10:20
Avoidance is the only option.
Yep ... the real lesson here is to make sure you live where there are no black people. Because there's a chance that one of them might be a criminal and if they attack you and you use legitimate self defense you're screwed.
generalmeow
07-12-2013, 10:34
Yep ... the real lesson here is to make sure you live where there are no black people. Because there's a chance that one of them might be a criminal and if they attack you and you use legitimate self defense you're screwed.
And the real problem with our country is that we're petrified to state the truth.
So when are you moving out of Colorado Springs?
bellavite1
07-12-2013, 10:43
Avoidance is the only option.
Avoidance is not always an option.
BPTactical
07-12-2013, 11:24
Avoidance is not always an option.
Agreed.
In Zimmys case he probably could have avoided the entire situation by observing and reporting and walking away.
Which according to testimony is what he did, only to have Martin step out from behind a bush and escalate the situation. At that point avoidance is not an option.
If testimonies are true I feel Zimmerman exhibited reasonable restraint of employing his weapon until he was on his back with somebody bigger, younger and stronger than him curb bouncing his head.
Avoidance was not an option at that point as well.
None of us really know what happened but there are times when one can take reasonable means to avoid problems but sometimes problems come to you. Then you cannot avoid the shit.
Avoidance is not always an option.
That's why I train as a sprinter.
I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside.
It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far.
You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again.
bellavite1
07-12-2013, 11:32
That's why I train as a sprinter.
I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside.
It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far.
You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again.
Thanks for the visual...
So now I have to convince myself that behind your avatar actuaslly hides an extremely hot girl that happens to like guns...
From: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/06/25/the-mindset-is-all-connected-the-real-racists-speak-in-their-own-words/
Non-blacks should just remain securely in their homes. Should they need to travel, they should drive with the windows up and doors locked while passing through the safari to avoid danger. The same mindset in The Virginia Pilot beatings (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/06/07/still-no-911-call-release-in-the-virginia-pilot-beatings-smells-like-a-cover-up/)- If you stop at an intersection to obey traffic laws, and if your car is attacked with bricks, stay inside keep the doors locked and drive away quickly.
That's why I train as a sprinter.
I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside.
It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far.
You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again.
Thanks for that- now I have to go dump 1/2 a bottle of bleach into my eyes to burn that mental image away.
That's why I train as a sprinter. I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside. It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far. You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again. F_-64DIXTlQ
I'm not watching this stupid thing on TV but did they find this codeine or ice tea drug or whatever in Martins system ?
Great-Kazoo
07-12-2013, 13:14
I'm not watching this stupid thing on TV but did they find this codeine or ice tea drug or whatever in Martins system ?
it would not have made any difference. the only info for anyone is Z's history from DOB till the present. Tradmarks FB, twitter, history as well as previous "contacts" were not only inadmissible, BUT somewhere somehow they have, like F&F been swept away.
Zundfolge
07-12-2013, 13:48
So when are you moving out of Colorado Springs?
We're only 6.3% African American ... they're outnumbered by "White Hispanics" (16.1%) here (let alone "White Caucasians" at 78.8%).
That and the vast majority of them live across town from me.
I'm not watching this stupid thing on TV but did they find this codeine or ice tea drug or whatever in Martins system ?
None in his system, but according to the autopsy his brain showed evidence of long term, heavy use of the drug.
BPTactical
07-12-2013, 14:49
I had heard he had THC in his system....
Jury is deliberating. Had a question on a piece of evidence.
could me minutes or hours before they come to a decision.
Do they have to stay and deliberate the entire time now or are they allowed breaks or could they wait until Monday?
Oh, and Greta is on right now outside the courthouse...the way she speaks with mostly the right side of her mouth being the only part that moves truly bothers/ weirds me out.
Jury is deliberating. Had a question on a piece of evidence.
could me minutes or hours before they come to a decision.
Do they have to stay and deliberate the entire time now or are they allowed breaks or could they wait until Monday?
IIRC- someone jump in and correct me if I'm mistaken, but they get breaks, and if they can't come to a decision today I think they recess for the weekend or something... Although I can't be too sure.
Oh, and Greta is on right now outside the courthouse...the way she speaks with mostly the right side of her mouth being the only part that moves truly bothers/ weirds me out.
She has facial paralysis from a stroke.
IIRC- someone jump in and correct me if I'm mistaken, but they get breaks, and if they can't come to a decision today I think they recess for the weekend or something... Although I can't be too sure.
A lot of courts do things differently. In Colorado the jury has the right to recess at 5 or 6 and ask to reconvene on the following business day. I'm not sure how it works in Florida but id imagine its somewhat similar. If I'm the defense I'm hoping the jury comes to a verdict tonight and being that they're sequestered I'd be willing to bet the jurors want to wrap it up tonight so they don't spend the entire weekend locked in a hotel room with only supervised family visitation and no access to television or social media.
That's why I train as a sprinter.
I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside.
It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far.
You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again.
Thanks for the laugh!!!
I believe the jury has been sequestered for the entire trial. They may want to hurry up and go home...but they'll probably want to be politically correct and drag this out so that it seems like they took their time weighing the evidence.
battle_sight_zero
07-12-2013, 17:02
A lot of courts do things differently. In Colorado the jury has the right to recess at 5 or 6 and ask to reconvene on the following business day. I'm not sure how it works in Florida but id imagine its somewhat similar. If I'm the defense I'm hoping the jury comes to a verdict tonight and being that they're sequestered I'd be willing to bet the jurors want to wrap it up tonight so they don't spend the entire weekend locked in a hotel room with only supervised family visitation and no access to television or social media.
Or get the heck out of Sanford before as all hell breaks lose. Fridays and weekends are more fun for riots. However media might like them to start on Monday so they get better coverage.
None in his system, but according to the autopsy his brain showed evidence of long term, heavy use of the drug.
I wonder why this hasn't been brought up???
BlasterBob
07-12-2013, 17:27
If acquittal is decided, who is going to provide the personal protection for the six folks on the jury who came up with that decision. I feel that they might really be considering their safety when making their decision.
battle_sight_zero
07-12-2013, 17:32
31401
Look what MSNBC just released. Those SOBs cant wait for riots! Click on pic for full size image. Sad that they are doing this.
BushMasterBoy
07-12-2013, 17:36
Janet Napolitano is resigning. I guess the DHS secretary knows the verdict...via the NSA!
If acquittal is decided, who is going to provide the personal protection for the six folks on the jury who came up with that decision. I feel that they might really be considering their safety when making their decision.
Are they even known? I Dont think their picture has been shown at all
31401
Look what MSNBC just released. Those SOBs cant wait for riots! Click on pic for full size image. Sad that they are doing this.
Pretty disturbing they would do that.
battle_sight_zero
07-12-2013, 17:38
Are they even known? I Dont think their picture has been shown at all
The media will make sure that they know who the jury members are including address and where their kids go to school.
BlasterBob
07-12-2013, 17:42
Are they even known? I Dont think their picture has been shown at all
Bet it won't take too long for the names to be determined by someone who REALLY wants to know.
battle_sight_zero
07-12-2013, 17:42
Pretty disturbing they would do that.
They really want the riots to start and then to influence the jury who are done for the night to freak out. Get civil unrest and then a conviction. Damm! for them this is better than Obama being reelected and sending shivers up their groins.
DavieD55
07-12-2013, 17:50
Janet Napolitano is resigning. I guess the DHS secretary knows the verdict...via the NSA!
I wonder what kind of radical freakazoid will take that position this time...
battle_sight_zero
07-12-2013, 17:53
If acquittal is decided, who is going to provide the personal protection for the six folks on the jury who came up with that decision. I feel that they might really be considering their safety when making their decision.
A lifetime of protection at that if there is an acquittal or hung jury. As I watch what is played out at these last minutes I don't believe Zimmerman will get an acquittal, the givemethats, progressives, Al Sharptons, Politicians that I wont name and the MEDIA as the messenger will make sure the jury is shaking in their pants looking forward to a lifetime of fear. His only hope is that one of these jurist is brave enough to hold the line for a hung jury, so that he gets more time for the next trial and the mentioned get new targets. The GOVT has the resources and the backing to keep going after Zimmerman but really this about coming after the 2nd Amendment and the racial wrongs of the past that wont be forgotten. This is about punishing the Caucasian race, the 2nd amendment is seen by the other side as tool of the Caucasian that must be taken away. Sad that our great Country's justice system has come to this.
Disclaimer= I am not a racist or white supremacist but I can see the writing on the wall.
31401
Look what MSNBC just released. Those SOBs cant wait for riots! Click on pic for full size image. Sad that they are doing this.
Terrible picture msnbc should not have shown that
sabot_round
07-12-2013, 18:25
MSNBC is the worst news organization that our Country has. They should be banned for the good of our country! Ginsue, can you make it happen for us?? We know that you have the power!![Beer]
Great-Kazoo
07-12-2013, 18:25
If acquittal is decided, who is going to provide the personal protection for the six folks on the jury who came up with that decision. I feel that they might really be considering their safety when making their decision.
It is one of the factors, no one will even bring up. The other is the political fallout . Either way, i see the defense ask for an appeal, based on the blatantly biased actions of the judge.
Great-Kazoo
07-12-2013, 18:30
A lifetime of protection at that if there is an acquittal or hung jury. As I watch what is played out at these last minutes I don't believe Zimmerman will get an acquittal, the givemethats, progressives, Al Sharptons, Politicians that I wont name and the MEDIA as the messenger will make sure the jury is shaking in their pants looking forward to a lifetime of fear. His only hope is that one of these jurist is brave enough to hold the line for a hung jury, so that he gets more time for the next trial and the mentioned get new targets. The GOVT has the resources and the backing to keep going after Zimmerman but really this about coming after the 2nd Amendment and the racial wrongs of the past that wont be forgotten. This is about punishing the Caucasian race, the 2nd amendment is seen by the other side as tool of the Caucasian that must be taken away. Sad that our great Country's justice system has come to this.
Disclaimer= I am not a racist or white supremacist but I can see the writing on the wall.
In total agreement. it's not about guilt or innocence. it's about guns and color. 20-1 odds Biden and nthe rest of those illiterates use this as anothe rreason to limit gun ownership / access / anything.
Terrible picture msnbc should not have shown that
MFKER you're from Joisey they've been pulling this shit for decades, or you forget, since your move out west? Look at the line of "family members" standing 4-5 across going around the patterson jail on visiting day. You'd think there was a hip-hop concert going on.
BPTactical
07-12-2013, 18:43
Despicable of MSNBC.
Its ok to show a pic of Trayvon but we can't see a pic of DOA Osama Bin Ladin? The hypocracy stinks, OBL was either killed in Tora Bora or he is resting comfortably in Saudi Arabia on our dime.
Micheal Brown had a couple real good points today when he aired interviews of the sitting police chief when TM got capped and the current police chief.
The one that was in place when this went down followed the rule of law and as such could not charge Zimmy.
The current one said a group of 30k citizens were outraged(thanks EH for using tax dollars to stir the pot) and wanted an arrest and trial and now they have both.
So we are no longer a nation of laws, but rather mob rules.
Just great......
battle_sight_zero
07-12-2013, 18:53
Good points BP . As I exercise at the gym Entertainment tonight had a teaser about an upcoming Trayvon movie. Jury is not even back yet.
I've been very surprised at the number of posts on the web that seem to think that getting your head bounced repeatedly on concrete is of little consequence, almost as if that activity alone wouldn't cause serious injury.
muddywings
07-12-2013, 20:19
I've been very surprised at the number of posts on the web that seem to think that getting your head bounced repeatedly on concrete is of little consequence, almost as if that activity alone wouldn't cause serious injury.
I think those saying that should volunteer to prove their point.
muddywings
07-12-2013, 21:12
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/12/zimmerman-lawyer-says-martin-was-lying-in-wait-to-attack
Ben Shapiro at 6:40 gives a pretty good legal recap on why this is epic BS and why if he gets convicted GZ will spend a good amount of time in jail. He also talked about the opposite of jury nullification which I vaguely remember someone in this thread mentioning way back about on page three....
I still think the prosecution won this case for the defense!
Great-Kazoo
07-12-2013, 21:14
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/12/zimmerman-lawyer-says-martin-was-lying-in-wait-to-attack
Ben Shapiro at 6:40 gives a pretty good legal recap on why this is epic BS and why if he gets convicted GZ will spend a good amount of time in jail. He also talked about the opposite of jury nullification which I vaguely remember someone in this thread mentioning way back about on page three....
I still think the prosecution won this case for the defense!
Yes they did. HOWEVER the Court of Public Opinion has a noose and line of people, including our own CIC ready to put it over Z's head.
I can't help but think that Sharpton/Jackson/Etc. would actually like for Zimmerman to be acquitted so that they can get on their pulpits and rage on about "racial injustice".
Singlestack
07-12-2013, 21:45
If recent polls are correct and blacks are more racist than whites (the poll even indicated most blacks believed that), then we may be returning to the 1950s in Mississippi - but in reverse. Most people aren't racist, but if they are living in fear of other races this can lead to bad places. Many think the witness Rachel Jeantal was being 100% honest when she described TM describing GZ as a "Creepy ass cracker" and also didn't think that was a racist comment. If blacks in their own communities talk about whites in that way, I am concerned where this will lead. Many on the left fan the flames of racial division every chance they get and cry racism any time anyone disagrees with them or a progressive brother/sister. Then if this trial is used as the "justification" for black racial violence, this will increase fear and lead to further division. I can say that I truly do not know any racist person, no matter what race. However, good people can still fear others and be concerned for their own and their family's safety.
<MADDOG>
07-12-2013, 22:06
The sad thing is this is receiving enough attention to capture a long running thread on this forum. However; I will be glued to the TV/radio waiting for:
The white/hispanic riots that occur because Mr. Zimmerman is convicted of manslaughter.
The overwhelming support from the media and the drones regarding our criminal justice system; and how the whole indictment, trial, and prosecution was factually based, and not racially biased.
A huge outcry of support by all citizens for the ability to be able to be armed and ready to defend their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness without the aid of law enforcement.
Yes, my eyes are brown... And pardon my french; but I'm tired of this shit already. Negroes die by the hands of negroes daily in this country; as do crackers by crackers; but it doesn't hit a media frenzy/public outcry/federal level until one race kills another. Give me a muther-flipping break! We have far bigger issues as a nation then to be worried about this trivial bullshit...
Gonna have another Woodford now!
<MADDOG>
07-12-2013, 22:23
If recent polls are correct and blacks are more racist than whites (the poll even indicated most blacks believed that), then we may be returning to the 1950s in Mississippi - but in reverse. Most people aren't racist, but if they are living in fear of other races this can lead to bad places...
My personal opinion is this: we are sheltered in CO. Racism is rampant on the coasts, large cities, and the south. Go to some of the "larger" news outlets covering this trial, or other racially charged ones, and look at the comments. The hate that is spewed by all sides make the "knee-breakers" and NYCO's on this forum look like saints...
centrarchidae
07-12-2013, 22:28
My personal opinion is this: we are sheltered in CO. Racism is rampant on the coasts, large cities, and the south. Go to some of the "larger" news outlets covering this trial, or other racially charged ones, and look at the comments. The hate that is spewed by all sides make the "knee-breakers" and NYCO's on this forum look like saints...
THIS!!!
The worst that I've seen in Colorado was either minorities on the RTD (who like as not were told to shut the **** up by other people with the same skin color) or a mouth-breathing inbred at the first Denver Tea Party (who was told to "f*** off and don't talk to me" by at least a few of the white people there.)
Chicago, OTOH, is an all-direction race war just waiting to happen. There's no shortage of reasons why I don't live there any more, and it ain't just the weather.
My personal opinion is this: we are sheltered in CO. Racism is rampant on the coasts, large cities, and the south. Go to some of the "larger" news outlets covering this trial, or other racially charged ones, and look at the comments. The hate that is spewed by all sides make the "knee-breakers" and NYCO's on this forum look like saints...
Yeah, growing up in Michigan I've seen racism going in all directions, and turn violent. Even deadly a couple of times. Mostly whites vs blacks, but in the Detroit area there's a large arab population that would get caught up in it too.
<MADDOG>
07-12-2013, 22:53
I agree with both of you 100%. I am a "transplant" from VA (NN/Norfolk area for any of you squids), and while it was relatively docile when I growing up in the 70's thru the 80's (there were still problems); it has hit new levels now based on my conversations with family and friends there. This just happened in my old haunting grounds, and this news clip is being conservative to say the least:
http://wtvr.com/2013/04/29/boardwalk-brawls-overwhelm-va-beach-and-unsuspecting-tourists/
Again; look at the comments at the bottom of the news feeds... There is a pot brewing, and I hope it doesn't boil...
I agree, to an extent we are sheltered here in Colorado. However, don't be so naive to think the kettle can't explode here as well. The "Zimmerman/Martin" shooting has received more publicity than some of our mass shootings. You now have celebrities (Jamie Fox) promoting the idea of blacks uprising and rioting - nationwide. The day that verdict is going to be handed down, I'm still rollin' heavy...just to be safe. I don't like the idea of getting caught with my pants down. I will put money on it, that if any verdict aside from the 2nd Degree Murder charge is handed down...there will be rioting. It's a powder keg just itching to explode...I pray you are right, that we are sheltered here and the madness doesn't get too out of hand. The last thing Colorado needs is more negative media attention. Right now, all we can do is sit...and wait.
I agree, to an extent we are sheltered here in Colorado. However, don't be so naive to think the kettle can't explode here as well. The "Zimmerman/Martin" shooting has received more publicity than some of our mass shootings. You now have celebrities (Jamie Fox) promoting the idea of blacks uprising and rioting - nationwide. The day that verdict is going to be handed down, I'm still rollin' heavy...just to be safe. I don't like the idea of getting caught with my pants down. I will put money on it, that if any verdict aside from the 2nd Degree Murder charge is handed down...there will be rioting. It's a powder keg just itching to explode...I pray you are right, that we are sheltered here and the madness doesn't get too out of hand. The last thing Colorado needs is more negative media attention. Right now, all we can do is sit...and wait.
i don't think riots will be an issue if he gets a lesser charge. i am only concerned about them if he gets off free. most people that think hes guilty, that i have seen, actually admit the evidence isn't very strong for murder. they would be fine if it was manslaughter and the like. if completely innocent then yeah i think it could be a problem. but then again i don't know. the trial has gone on long enough that people might have calmed down overall.
ImNtUrBuddyGuy
07-13-2013, 04:43
Good points BP . As I exercise at the gym Entertainment tonight had a teaser about an upcoming Trayvon movie. Jury is not even back yet.
This happens with a lot of High Profile Cases nowadays, Lifetime made the Jodi Arias movie while the trial was still ongoing and it came out weeks after the verdict came in!!!
ImNtUrBuddyGuy
07-13-2013, 05:17
I have waited till all the facts from the trial to comment on this case; it is of my opinion that too many people have used this as a political issue, with Liberals for Trayvon and Conservatives for Zimmerman. Both sides are making each persons involved to be above reproach, when in reality both characters seems to have a "complicated" pasts (Zimmerman (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/27/10894561-zimmerman-accused-of-domestic-violence-fighting-with-a-police-officer?lite) and Trayvon (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html)).
No one can say with 100% certainty what happened on the night these two lives crossed paths: was Zimmerman a "wannabe cop" who tried to take justice into his own hands--OR--was Trayvon a "wannabe thug" who attacked Zimmerman for being a "creepy-ass honky"? The truth usually lies somewhere in between as they say.
It was of my opinion from the beginning that this whole affair was a "he said/she said" scenario (which it has). Only two people will know what really happened on that night are Martin and Zimmerman, with Zimmerman the last man standing to tell his tale. We will never know the truth; however, this is the reason why I believe Zimmerman should be found not-guilty--due to lack of sufficient evidence from the State proving Zimmerman maliciously attacked Martin.
I wish one day America will start thinking of issues beyond that of race but the media clearly loves to peddle these stories in the public arena for both political (media bias) and commercial reasons (this trial has been a rating coupé for the media).
BPTactical
07-13-2013, 07:12
The really sad thing is as a nation racism was dying a slow and quiet death until.........January 21, 2009.
The really sad thing is as a nation racism was dying a slow and quiet death until.........January 21, 2009.
BS. Did you forget Katrina/Kanye/Bush?
Walk (run) through the shit in downtown Baltimore today and it is no different than it was 5 years ago.
Great-Kazoo
07-13-2013, 07:38
My personal opinion is this: we are sheltered in CO. Racism is rampant on the coasts, large cities, and the south. Go to some of the "larger" news outlets covering this trial, or other racially charged ones, and look at the comments. The hate that is spewed by all sides make the "knee-breakers" and NYCO's on this forum look like saints...
We're not sheltered, just a different way of life. URBAN ( especially liberal states) areas have a entitlement mentality. CO until who knows when, was spared that due to folks actually wanting to work, provide for a family, have something to show for all of it, no matter what color they are. An example on say the east coast would be NY/ NJ even DC. Program after program, over decades of entitlements bred a circle of welfare families.
We moved here 30 years ago and had no clue 25% or our neighborhood was "black" unless you looked at the color of their skin. NO obnoxious music blaring 24/7 NO homes in disrepair, NO crime in the area, NO disrespecting one another , property or way of life, NOTHING. Only wanting to provide and enjoy a color blind life style.
Urban or suburban, East or west coast, even southern areas like Houston , forget it. black on black crime, black on white etc. It's how folks are raised that relates to their perception of respect AND Race.
The media as you pointed out serves one purpose and that is to Inflame, Incite then Indite. Objective journalism has been gone for decades, replaced by Hit and puff pieces on whoever they like or dislike. The comments be it for the trial or even "common sense" gun laws are no different.
Also the populace at large elect the same bomb throwers year after year after year in urban areas.
Don't like something in a liberal area, RIOT
Don't like something in CO, RECALL.
last item is WHITE GUILT. that's self explanatory.
Great-Kazoo
07-13-2013, 07:48
BS. Did you forget Katrina/Kanye/Bush?
Walk (run) through the shit in downtown Baltimore today and it is no different than it was 5 years ago.
Same for chitown or that chocolate city, Norlins. Crime is out of contro,l black on black violence is so far gone, Nothing outside of strict enforcement of the law and prison time can help diminish it.
HOWEVER for that to happen the Sharptons, jacksons, white guilt liberals would need to admit it's not race relations that have failed, it's their failure to act early, their failure to admit their own are to blame, that did. Instead "they" blame guns from out lying areas, racism and whitey's failure to provide education, that's the cause.
It AIN'T THE MAN THAT'S KEEPING YOU DOWN. IT'S YOURSELF.
funkymonkey1111
07-13-2013, 08:47
State attorney's office fires information officer involved in case:
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-07-13/story/state-attorney-angela-corey-fires-information-techonology-director-who
I guess he didn't fit their agenda
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 09:06
State attorney's office fires information officer involved in case:
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-07-13/story/state-attorney-angela-corey-fires-information-techonology-director-who
I guess he didn't fit their agenda
That was a interesting read. It is really disappointing that not all evidence was allowed in this case. Nothing was stopped from being presented on Zimmerman, but pretty much anything on Trayvon like the things mentioned in the link were frozen. The IT director in the link is another victim of this Kangeroo trial.
On another note I agree with an earlier post a decade or three ago I never thought about race in my neighborhood. Pretty much the only thing I noticed was if a house was looking unkempt or crime was going on such as burglaries and graffiti. The balck family across the street worried about the same thing and it was not about race. Now were all divided .
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 09:12
Don't like something in CO, RECALL.
You dont mean that the fact we are recalling some of the clowns destroying our state is a negative do yo That is a lot different than riot and sends the message legally.
Anyone think the verdict is comin down today????
palepainter
07-13-2013, 09:27
The judge was obviously biased as well, based upon her own admittance.
Great-Kazoo
07-13-2013, 09:31
Don't like something in CO, RECALL.
You dont mean that the fact we are recalling some of the clowns destroying our state is a negative do yo That is a lot different than riot and sends the message legally.
Absolutely not. Just showing the difference.
Some folks don't get their way, riots ensue.. Others don't like something, petitions, PEACEFUL Rallys, resolving at the ballot box. Or they boycott that business , state / local municipality.
trlcavscout
07-13-2013, 10:00
I thought the jury would be back by now with a not guilty verdict and Florida would be on fire.
6 female jury, I haven't seen them, not really a fair jury of his peers is it? Are they all 60 year old Subaru driving fur traders?
I thought the jury would be back by now with a not guilty verdict and Florida would be on fire.
6 female jury, I haven't seen them, not really a fair jury of his peers is it? Are they all 60 year old Subaru driving fur traders?there's stats on them on Google but I'm posting on this stupid kindle and came cut and paste right
Basically 30-50....3 have had firearm experience
The defense picks the jury too I'm surprised no guys are on there wonder what the initial pool looked like
Here's a good link
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/20/who-are-jurors-george-zimmerman
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 10:08
Absolutely not. Just showing the difference.
Some folks don't get their way, riots ensue.. Others don't like something, petitions, PEACEFUL Rallys, resolving at the ballot box. Or they boycott that business , state / local municipality.
Agreed and good points
I'm thinking if it took this long there are split decisions among the jury and each side is proving their point.
My personal opinion is this: we are sheltered in CO. Racism is rampant on the coasts, large cities, and the south. Go to some of the "larger" news outlets covering this trial, or other racially charged ones, and look at the comments. The hate that is spewed by all sides make the "knee-breakers" and NYCO's on this forum look like saints...
I don't honestly think we're "sheltered" here in CO, it's just not a front and center issue as much as it is elsewhere in this vast and diverse nation. No one seems to remember the LoDo crap last year? Black dudes beating up white guys late at night and spouting racial comments, and both the mayor's office and DPD brass refused to call it "hate crime" or "racially motivated". The sad part is, this whole drama has become racially involved, thanks to baiters like Jackson, Sharpton, and Oblahblah... DOJ doing community organizing? That's a huge problem right there. Obama inciting this behavior ("If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon"), and the twitter scene blowing up with talk (actions maybe not) of riots and killing white people. This is all getting way out of hand. Guarantee if it was a black man that shot a 17 year old white kid, this wouldn't even be a blip on anyone's radar.
Michael Brown was talking about it yesterday, and it's all the fault of the liberal media, and the baiters mentioned before for making this a big deal. Had they not gotten involved and this just left alone, I don't think any charges would be filed, and no one would have ever known the names of Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman. Brown was right, rule of law in this country is starting to vanish.
Take race out of the equation: If this had been a black man shooting a black kid, this wouldn't have rated half a column inch on page 14 of their local paper...
Take race out of the equation: If this had been a black man shooting a black kid, this wouldn't have rate half a column inch on page 14 of their local paper...
Page 14? You give that scenario too much credit... [Coffee] [LOL]
My prediction is HUNG JURY.
Thanks to Juror B29:
She is Hispanic and black
She just moved to Florida four months ago from Chicago.
She has eight children and works at a nursing home.
Key word is Chicago.
My prediction is HUNG JURY.
Thanks to Juror B29:
She is Hispanic and black
She just moved to Florida four months ago from Chicago.
She has eight children and works at a nursing home.
Key word is Chicago.
I'm in agreement with you.
Do you think they will retry him?
I'm in agreement with you.
Do you think they will retry him?
I hope not. Due to crazy riot mobs gathering in Sanford just like Tahrir Square, they might be forced to waste more tax payer's money. :(
I'm in agreement with you.
Do you think they will retry him?
They will try to convict him of anything and everything thing they can. At this point, the DA is making a Zimmerman conviction their Everest. The PD couldn't find justification for charging GZ....but this has become a political football and has nothing to do with justice.
Great-Kazoo
07-13-2013, 14:44
They will try to convict him of anything and everything thing they can. At this point, the DA is making a Zimmerman conviction their Everest. The PD couldn't find justification for charging GZ....but this has become a political football and has nothing to do with justice.
^This^
IF you believe Mr Zimmerman was working as a security guard he must be found Guilty.
That was a interesting read. It is really disappointing that not all evidence was allowed in this case. Nothing was stopped from being presented on Zimmerman, but pretty much anything on Trayvon like the things mentioned in the link were frozen. The IT director in the link is another victim of this Kangeroo trial.
On another note I agree with an earlier post a decade or three ago I never thought about race in my neighborhood. Pretty much the only thing I noticed was if a house was looking unkempt or crime was going on such as burglaries and graffiti. The balck family across the street worried about the same thing and it was not about race. Now were all divided .
That's a bit extreme. The guys I hang with, shoot with, neighbors, and co-workers are all just the same now as we were 5,10,15 years ago. Are they're some shi++y people who will want to tear stuff up if the verdict doesn't go their way....probably. It's no indication of an entire race. I'm tired of that bullshit on this site. And it just goes on and on. People being viloent, destructive whatever is more of a socioeconomic issue....not as much a race issue. Check out what kind of violence and societal destruction is occurring due to meth in small town, mostly white towns across America. Hey, the Westboro Baptsist Church is white and gets a lot of attention....how representative is that? I hear more about Sharpton and Jesse Jackson more on this website than I do anywhere else.
I agree, to an extent we are sheltered here in Colorado. However, don't be so naive to think the kettle can't explode here as well. The "Zimmerman/Martin" shooting has received more publicity than some of our mass shootings. You now have celebrities (Jamie Fox) promoting the idea of blacks uprising and rioting - nationwide. The day that verdict is going to be handed down, I'm still rollin' heavy...just to be safe. I don't like the idea of getting caught with my pants down. I will put money on it, that if any verdict aside from the 2nd Degree Murder charge is handed down...there will be rioting. It's a powder keg just itching to explode...I pray you are right, that we are sheltered here and the madness doesn't get too out of hand. The last thing Colorado needs is more negative media attention. Right now, all we can do is sit...and wait.
What exactly is Rollin Heavy?
What exactly is Rollin Heavy?
I know we threw the plates and ar in the trunk incase the springs explodes into an orgy of violence(which it won't)
These crazy RIOT-PHILIC mobs NEEDS TO STOP with the bullshit, and just look at the witnesses and the evidences.
I am so sick and tired of these Riot loving @ssholes who makes an excuse to create a riot out of court cases.
I already had to deal with stupid@ss Rodney King Riot shit on 4/29/1992.
These crazy RIOT-PHILIC mobs NEEDS TO STOP with the bullshit, and just look at the witnesses and the evidences.
I am so sick and tired of these Riot loving @ssholes who makes an excuse to create a riot out of court cases.
I already had to deal with stupid@ss Rodney King Riot shit on 4/29/1992.
Where you in cali for those....if so story time please :D
These crazy RIOT-PHILIC mobs NEEDS TO STOP with the bullshit, and just look at the witnesses and the evidences.
I am so sick and tired of these Riot loving @ssholes who makes an excuse to create a riot out of court cases.
Court cases? Hell, all it takes is for a city to win some sports championship and people go crazy trashing their own town. That's something I'll never understand.
That's a bit extreme. The guys I hang with, shoot with, neighbors, and co-workers are all just the same now as we were 5,10,15 years ago. Are they're some shi++y people who will want to tear stuff up if the verdict doesn't go their way....probably. It's no indication of an entire race. I'm tired of that bullshit on this site. And it just goes on and on. People being viloent, destructive whatever is more of a socioeconomic issue....not as much a race issue. Check out what kind of violence and societal destruction is occurring due to meth in small town, mostly white towns across America. Hey, the Westboro Baptsist Church is white and gets a lot of attention....how representative is that? I hear more about Sharpton and Jesse Jackson more on this website than I do anywhere else.
True. All kinds of things could happen. There are people who like to stir up the shit on all sides of this debate. I think I'll just wait & see what actually happens. I've got friends & family on both sides of this issue & I'm sure we will still be friends afterwards.
Juror B29:
She is Hispanic and black
She just moved to Florida four months ago from Chicago.
She has eight children and works at a nursing home.
Well that doesn't bode very well for Zimmerman does it?!
Why are there black commentators/anchors on all channels lately?
No, nothing to do with race here. </sarc>
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 15:32
One of the things that bother me is why did Zimmerman wave his right to a stand your ground hearing http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/30/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense
muddywings
07-13-2013, 16:00
jury is asking a question to the judge about manslaughter (per the crappy news pundits)
edit/add: I don't even comprehend how they can even charge manslaughter. He intended to shoot, in self defense. It wasn't an accident.
funkymonkey1111
07-13-2013, 16:11
jury is asking a question to the judge about manslaughter (per the crappy news pundits)
edit/add: I don't even comprehend how they can even charge manslaughter. He intended to shoot, in self defense. It wasn't an accident.
likely means they've dumped 2nd degree murder in their minds
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 16:17
Manslaughter yeah right.....got to charge him with something to appease the king and the mob. I hope for acquittal but looks like a hung jury may be in order.
True. All kinds of things could happen. There are people who like to stir up the shit on all sides of this debate. I think I'll just wait & see what actually happens. I've got friends & family on both sides of this issue & I'm sure we will still be friends afterwards.
Exactly. I've got a boat load of friends, good friends, on this site and we will all still give each other hell, hang out and shoot like we always do....regardless of this verdict or any other. Rationalizing your dislike of someone because of this trial is stupid. We get so easily played by the media.
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 16:29
Exactly. I've got a boat load of friends, good friends, on this site and we will all still give each other hell, hang out and shoot like we always do....regardless of this verdict or any other. Rationalizing your dislike of someone because of this trial is stupid. We get so easily played by the media.
Kind of like the election? Still have many people in my friends and social groups not talking and hating each other. In many ways this trial reflects the attitude of the last election.
<MADDOG>
07-13-2013, 16:36
... Rationalizing your dislike of someone because of this trial is stupid. We get so easily played by the media.
You are speaking to the wrong audience.
Kind of like the election? Still have many people in my friends and social groups not talking and hating each other. In many ways this trial reflects the attitude of the last election.
Maybe they weren't as tight as you thought if they would throw away a friendship that easily. I have liberal friends and we just don't discuss certain stuff, I'm never gonna convince them to be pro-2A. The most ironic part of all of this is that in DC the politicians on both sides of the aisle are all buddy buddy as soon as they hit the bar.
The most ironic part of all of this is that in DC the politicians on both sides of the aisle are all buddy buddy as soon as they hit the bar.
I've never thought of DC politicians as people who actually care about an issue, it's just a game called politics to them in which they push an agenda that keeps them in office. That game offers lifetime employment, a fantastic retirement/healthcare plan, and all kinds of other benefits unavailable to the peasants.
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 18:45
Maybe they weren't as tight as you thought if they would throw away a friendship that easily. I have liberal friends and we just don't discuss certain stuff, I'm never gonna convince them tas o be pro-2A. The most ironic part of all of this is that in DC the politicians on both sides of the aisle are all buddy buddy as soon as they hit the bar.
As for me most people still talk to me and often I find myself as the peace keeper. However my dad, aunts and uncles are the ones fighting it out. As far a politicians I am not impressed that they hang out and party after doing there thing. Maybe that bonding is why this country is where it is at right now? Buddy buddy on things that should not be compromised on is bad for this country.
What exactly is Rollin Heavy?
Use your imagination. [Coffee]
https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by RMAC757 https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?p=1232001#post1232001)
What exactly is Rollin Heavy?
Use your imagination. [Coffee]Are you a participant in one of the "Juicing" threads?
muddywings
07-13-2013, 19:53
verdict reached.....
GilpinGuy
07-13-2013, 19:59
Let the mayhem begin.....
streetglideok
07-13-2013, 20:02
Riots in 5....4....3....2....
Riots in 5....4....3....2....
I guess I'm going to have to watch TV again. Watch the 'hood burn!
streetglideok
07-13-2013, 20:07
There has been a certain group in this country looking to burn whitey and have been itching for an excuse since affirmative action got a president elected. Look for mayhem in several cities, including miami
Well shit I thought they were gonna at least put him up on the manslaughter.
GilpinGuy
07-13-2013, 20:11
I guess I'm going to have to watch TV again. Watch the 'hood burn!
Yeah, I hope we're both wrong, but I think this might be an interesting news night.
Word is just now getting to them in the club.
They'll come out swinging later this evening after getting their drank on.
They really could not have come back with any other decision. Even the mass media lawyers admit it should have gone this way.
That said, the civil case will break Zimmerman.
ImNtUrBuddyGuy
07-13-2013, 20:17
Word is just now getting to them in the club.
They'll come out swinging later this evening after getting their drank on.
It sounds like you are hoping for riots/violence as a result of this case. I pray nothing bad happens because of this.
You are just as bad as the media by making race baiting remarks like this.
GilpinGuy
07-13-2013, 20:17
I wonder what our exulted leader Obama will say now.
argonstrom
07-13-2013, 20:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt_g5JPdP8Y
Wonder how he'll spin it.
Can't wait for the civil suits against the State to begin :)
Boadie30
07-13-2013, 20:19
I just want to pass on a big gigantic...f .... NVM.... Very happy...
anaphylaxis
07-13-2013, 20:19
Business owners, time to head to the roof...
Riots in 5....4....3....2....
+1
My wife thinks I am going overboard. Having to deal with stupid@ss LA Riot on 4-29-1992, I am not gonna assume nothing will happen.
streetglideok
07-13-2013, 20:19
They really could not have come back with any other decision. Even the mass media lawyers admit it should have gone this way.
That said, the civil case will break Zimmerman.
I'm not sure we will see one, or that it will go very far. They may say that he was cleared of murder charges and manslaughter charges, so it is protected by castle doctrine laws. I really don't know one way or the other. This should never have gone this far to begin with.
Just watching and waiting, have to believe done sort of riots will begin.
Kraven251
07-13-2013, 20:21
Business owners, time to head to the roof...
Well it is Florida, hopefully they just drop the hurricane shutters and go on from there.
i bet riots dont break out more media infront of that court house then anyone else
GilpinGuy
07-13-2013, 20:23
How long before Zimmerman gets a book out?
streetglideok
07-13-2013, 20:23
Mom said she is hearing fireworks going off in rural ohio. Any guesses?
They really could not have come back with any other decision. Even the mass media lawyers admit it should have gone this way.
That said, the civil case will break Zimmerman.
Didn't think of that, but he could very well be the new OJ.
The jury did not seem to want to spend any more time on this than needed. I just hope that people stay calm, one man is not all men and he does not represent all of us.
Where you in cali for those....if so story time please :D
The same day, 4-29-1992, I had an appointment at Kerlan-Jobes Orthopedic for pre-OP consultation with my family.
I believe it was near Inglewood near Great western Forum where Kings and Lakers use to play.
I did watch the case on the TV at a waiting room and people were surprised, but that was about it at the time.
When we got out after appointment, Radio was telling people, there is riot going on at some places.
After 15minutes into driving back home east burb, they were telling drivers and shop owners to get out.
We missed it by nearly about 30minutes.
Well. This stupid riot/looting shit went on for about 3 days.
Court cases? Hell, all it takes is for a city to win some sports championship and people go crazy trashing their own town. That's something I'll never understand.
Yeah. Even after NCAA sports mini-rios freaks me out a little.
Forget the BCS stuff, even the rival teams like OSU&MI, UCLA&USC, CAL&STAN, CU&CSU stuff creates stupid mini-riots.
buckshotbarlow
07-13-2013, 20:29
not guilty...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/index.html
generalmeow
07-13-2013, 20:31
The state attorney is talking. She says that because the screaming stopped after the shot was fired, they knew it was trayvonn that was screaming.
What the hell kind of reasoning is that? Why would Zimmerman keep screaming either?
generalmeow
07-13-2013, 20:34
The trial began with a knock knock joke. I'm disappointed it didn't end with one.
buckshotbarlow
07-13-2013, 20:34
i've tried staying away from this thread, but i'm glad it's over. I guess it finally caught up to me.
muddywings
07-13-2013, 20:35
I was on a school bus in Berkeley CA when the Rodney King riots broke out. Berkeley was not LA but it was about 30 minutes of chaos before we cleared the city limits. I have no faith and fully expect riots.
GilpinGuy
07-13-2013, 20:35
The state attorney is talking. She says that because the screaming stopped after the shot was fired, they knew it was trayvonn that was screaming.
What the hell kind of reasoning is that? Why would Zimmerman keep screaming either?
Yeah, that lady is sounding like an idiot and needs to stfu already.
I'm glad it is over.
me too.
buckshotbarlow
07-13-2013, 20:37
Yeah, that lady is sounding like an idiot and needs to stfu already.
NFS, fat woman and dumb ass lib yack'n their traps to be heard...
i expect trouble in florida; we'll see what happens elsewhere
The state attorney is talking. She says that because the screaming stopped after the shot was fired, they knew it was trayvonn that was screaming.
What the hell kind of reasoning is that? Why would Zimmerman keep screaming either?
Game over. She can say what she want's but Trayvon is in the ground and Zimmerman has been acquitted, it's water under the bridge at this point.
muddywings
07-13-2013, 20:59
I want this guy on speed dial!
I think this is what sealed the deal
http://i.imgur.com/bHH6sW5.jpg
tmleadr03
07-13-2013, 21:01
I was on a school bus in Berkeley CA when the Rodney King riots broke out. Berkeley was not LA but it was about 30 minutes of chaos before we cleared the city limits. I have no faith and fully expect riots.
After all the hype up over "there are going to be riots" if it ends up not happening I will be very put out.
ChunkyMonkey
07-13-2013, 21:07
YEP... confirmed my preference.. Judged by 6 ladies than carried by 6 dudes.
muddywings
07-13-2013, 21:08
Mark O'Mara just called out the media. Love that guy!
People posting on the New York Times website are freaking out. These people fail to understand Rule of Law and our Constitution. Truly disheartening.
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 21:09
Glad it is over.
Mark O'Mara just called out the media. Love that guy!
Watched that, it was impressive.
BPTactical
07-13-2013, 21:13
It is good to see the jury uphold the facts as presented, the evidence and rule of law.
At least that part of the system worked as designed in this case.
You know BHO, EH, AS, the NBPP and such are just steamed to the gills.
Yet another instance of epic fail by this administration.
Oh and that light that is fading in the east is the judges Federal career ........
Stay frosty folks...
SA Friday
07-13-2013, 21:16
[taze]
hand me another cartridge...
[taze]
hand me another cartridge.
I'm out.
[Stick]
[PoPo]
[Jail]
End of story.
I just hope they get Zimmerman out of that place right fricken now.
battle_sight_zero
07-13-2013, 21:19
I hope it is over but there are rumblings that the Obama administration is contemplating bringing Federal charges
Watched that, it was impressive.
Link?
palepainter
07-13-2013, 21:23
So now I'm listening to the Martin family lawyers, compare young Mr Martin to the likes of Martin LutherKing And Rosa Parks. Do not get me wrong, I feel bad for the family and the fact that some young kid made some shitty decisions. But I would now way compare him to MLK. WtF. In one breath, they are calling for peace, but the undertones are....get whitey.
BPTactical
07-13-2013, 21:23
I hope it is over but there are rumblings that the Obama administration is contemplating bringing Federal charges
This Admenstruation needs to mind its own freakin business.......this entire trial would have never occurred had they and the media left the investigation to those that actually know what they are doing.
May TM rest in peace and GZ move on to a life in peace.
SA Friday
07-13-2013, 21:25
I hope it is over but there are rumblings that the Obama administration is contemplating bringing Federal charges
[ROFL1] Ya, uh the FBI have already found there was no case for Fed charges. They can file and any Fed judge on the planet (even an obama douchbag judge) will kick it during prelim. The implication of double jeopardy along with no LE from state of Federal agencies showing a prosecutable crime, it would be just another nail in the coffin for this administration.
They are going to grumble for a while so people feel like they are paying attention, and then not file.
Kraven251
07-13-2013, 21:25
This Admenstruation needs to mind its own freakin business.......
May TM rest in peace and GZ move on to a life in peace.
^^this. +1
Zimmerman might need to chill out in Northern Idaho for a while.
Bear
DoJ now investigating evidence? WTF?
DoJ now investigating evidence? WTF?
They can review it all they want, but double jeopardy won't allow another criminal trial. I doubt he has much money that can be grabbed up in a civil trial.
trlcavscout
07-13-2013, 21:32
This whole thing is bull shit. Racially charged from the POTUS down!!! The family's attorneys were horrible. There are no winners. We are all Americans whether we are black, white, brown, or what ever. Its all bullshit that we even have to say "black", or African American. Any media reporters saying anything but should be fired. If the POTUS does try to re-try Zimmerman it will be clear how racist the POTUS is and that he should be immediately removed from office. A jury of his peers as defined by law have found him not guilty, the family's attorneys as well as the prosecution need to remember that, and they have no business stating anymore opinions on the subject. Case closed.
These talking heads are now stating that good has been done because "people will now think twice about getting involved."
Absolutely disgusting continual pussification of society.
George acted like a responsible neighbor. He acted like a man. He should be imitated.
The real message is, "Thugs will (should) now think twice before attacking a weaker oponent."
They can review it all they want, but double jeopardy won't allow another criminal trial. I doubt he has much money that can be grabbed up in a civil trial.
I completely agree with you. It's just the fact that the Federal Gov wants to get involved with taxpayer dollars truly disgusts me but isn't so much of a surprise.
From another site:
Obama just made a statement:
”If I needed a lawyer, they would look like West and MOM”.
palepainter
07-13-2013, 21:38
This whole thing is bull shit. Racially charged from the POTUS down!!! The family's attorneys were horrible. There are no winners. We are all Americans whether we are black, white, brown, or what ever. Its all bullshit that we even have to say "black", or African American. Any media reporters saying anything but should be fired. If the POTUS does try to re-try Zimmerman it will be clear how racist the POTUS is and that he should be immediately removed from office. A jury of his peers as defined by law have found him not guilty, the family's attorneys as well as the prosecution need to remember that, and they have no business stating anymore opinions on the subject. Case closed.
Exactly!! I am sure this verdict is exactly what the POTUS needed to further his agenda of division.
theGinsue
07-13-2013, 21:39
I know it won't have much success until the current King-in-Chief leaves office, but maybe now we can start to move past all of this focus on race and begin to heal as one nation, one people.
BPTactical
07-13-2013, 21:42
I know it won't have much success until the current King-in-Chief leaves office, but maybe now we can start to move past all of this focus on race and begin to heal as one nation, one people.
Amen to that Thomas.
Unfortunatly the KIC and entourage have nearly set us back to near pre King stages. Gonna take a while to sew that gash up.
I can't believe I am saying this, but Geraldo just said something quite eloquent:
"Sometimes tragedies are not always crimes."
I know it won't have much success until the current King-in-Chief leaves office, but maybe now we can start to move past all of this focus on race and begin to heal as one nation, one people.
Thank you, we'll said. Lets pray and hope we can bring America back to what it was. Freedom and opportunity for all.
UrbanWolf
07-13-2013, 21:45
SO i found out Zimmerman is found not guilty because one bitch on my facebook is crying for riots and injustice. LOL, pop corn time.
SA Friday
07-13-2013, 21:45
They can review it all they want, but double jeopardy won't allow another criminal trial. I doubt he has much money that can be grabbed up in a civil trial.
Double jeopardy will only apply to the charges of murder and manslaughter. It would NOT apply to the charge of a federal hate crime. Good Fn luck proving that with an FBI file saying it didn't happen.
GilpinGuy
07-13-2013, 21:45
I know it won't have much success until the current King-in-Chief leaves office, but maybe now we can start to move past all of this focus on race and begin to heal as one nation, one people.
Spot on Tom. Did you hear the Rosen show the other day where he was going through the Dept. of Justice stats on Black on White violent crime? IIRC it spiked 17% in 2012. Scary stuff. This racial division bullshit is getting out of hand. But it's part of the left's playbook, so it isn't going away anytime soon.
newracer
07-13-2013, 21:46
IIRC in FL if you are found not guilty criminally then they cannot file a civil suit.
10mm-man
07-13-2013, 21:46
Yes, popcorn!
UGH were in the Trial Link... trial is over we need a new thread!! Please move us back............. PLEASE
UrbanWolf
07-13-2013, 21:48
Cry Cry Cry!!! I'm watching!!!!
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/RadScorpius/Cry_zps7177a673.jpg
"You have a little black boy who was killed," said Benjamin Crump, an attorney for the parents of Trayvon. "It's going to be reported in history books and 50 years from now, our children will talk about Trayvon Martin's case like we talk about Emmett Till."
Emmett Till, a 14-year-old black young man, was tortured, grossly disfigured and murdered in 1955 in Mississippi after being accused of flirting with a white woman.
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2514163
Really? Did he really say that!? I'm not seeing how that even makes sense. God help us.
UrbanWolf
07-13-2013, 21:59
Cry more, it's fun to watch.
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/RadScorpius/Cry2_zps73384de5.jpg
"You have a little black boy who was killed," said Benjamin Crump, an attorney for the parents of Trayvon. "It's going to be reported in history books and 50 years from now, our children will talk about Trayvon Martin's case like we talk about Emmett Till."
Actually, no, they won't. Trayvon won't be remembered 18 months from now, sorry. The new iPhone, yes, but dead&buried Trayvon will drop off the charts in short order.
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