Recall John Morse

[hollohas]

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I do not think this is true. The way I understand it, there will be no mail in ballots because the Libertarians were not allowed the proper time to get the signatures. http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23848198/denver-judge-sides-libertarians-colorado-recall-lawsuit</p>

I just worded it wrong. The process is being delayed, not the election. This certainly going to hurt the chances of a successful recall. No time to mail rballots to overseas voters doesn't help us and in-person voting doesn't help us either as it will allow more fruad. The Libertarians may have used to court case to set precedent that Hick's lame election law is flawed but I predict they just screwed the chances of throwing those bums out.

[Dave]

Ugh, I'm not liking this. As much as I wouldn't mind seeing a Libertarian get voted in, it's the votes they received that got Dems the majority. And I've even voted Libertarian in a few elections.

[hollohas]

If they can't even get the 1,000 people to sign to get the name on the ballot in the same time everyone one else did then they don't stand a chance and need to sit this one out. This is game day, we need to win and now we have some second string libertarians who didn't show up to practice screaming they should get playing time. It's BS. They need to sit this one out, build up their base and give it another shot during the next regular election when they have more support.

[mtnhack]

The libertarians screwed up. How did they not see this coming and plan ahead?

I don't buy the fraud angle. I don't think it is happening. The lack of mail in ballots does hurt, but I imagine this will be because the elderly who do not normally get out will not be able to vote.

And the democrats cannot put up a candidate. It is either Morse or he is out and one of the others on the ballot (rep. or lib. if they get the sigs) is in.

[jerrymrc]

Of course having a reg Dem in the house means we get the calls from both sides. A whole lotta people for asswipe called and asked to talk to the wife. I said that she is unavailable so I got the line about voting "NO" to recall him.

Very calmly I said "Oh, we fully intend to vote to recall Bloomberg's puppet, thank you and have a good night" [LOL][Flower]

[mtnrider]

WTF I can't even get through the evening news without seeing the back to back Morse and Giron TV commercials over and over. Got so pissed I switched stations just to see them again. Every break had the commercials.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Folks, much as I blame pigheaded people voting Libertarian for Morse winning reelection in 2010, they will be a net asset in this special election. Anything that gets more people to the polls to vote Yes on Recall Morse is a win and we all know some people who would vote Yes on recall won't come in to vote if a Republican is the only candidate. My experience is very few of the military who are deployed and would need mail-in ballots are registered voters in Colorado so getting Libertarians, Constitutionalists, independents, etc. to vote Yes on Recall Morse outweighs the potential votes lost.

Frankly, I don't care who replaces Morse as long as he's gone. Even Merrifield would come in knowing Morse just got bitchslapped to Brooklyn and Beyond.

We need help with people willing to get the vote out, make sure people are excited about voting Morse out, and helping to get people to the polls. Check the Facebook page or come join us at the new HQ offices downtown.

[mtnhack]

Another commercial, this time the NRA. [Beer]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PP9nX190Mnk

[sniper7]

I can't wait to see morse get the boot. I knew when I saw that snake at the Capitol his time was limited.

[sellersm]

TIME IS RUNNING OUT! I just got this email from the freedom defense fund, that's behind the recall effort. Many people don't know that there will NOT be mail in ballots!!

Friends,


We only have 3 WEEKS to get out the YES vote for the Sept 10 election to recall Senator John Morse. Polls show us that voters --


don't know they will not receive a mail ballot
don't know where to go to vote
don't know they must check YES on their ballot to recall Sen. John Morse


We MUST talk to SD 11 voters to provide them with the information they WANT and NEED to vote to recall Morse in this election TO WIN.



Please click on the link below and sign up to call voters, knock on doors to talk to voters, or do honk and waves and take signs. IF WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE AT A TIME CALLING SIX HOURS PER DAY we can contact all the voters we need with the vital information they need to vote.



Click here to sign up specifically to do the phone banking. If you've signed up previously with us your email was sent to the campaign headquarters.

SIGN UP:



http://www.signupgenius.com/go/10C0D4BA8AD29A2FB6-getout (http://t.ymlp275.net/wuagausbjeapauumaaaehue/click.php)



This is the path to victory!


Several groups that have been working the ground game for Recall Sen John Morse separately up until have now JOINED TOGETHER to coordinate operations out of our campaign headquarters at 109 Kiowa, Colorado Springs, CO, 80903.


Our campaign email is recallsenjohnmorse@gmail.com


Our phone number is 719-749-8051



We will be at the office practically EVERYDAY! There will be food AND drawings for gift card giveaways for callers and walkers.



Please forward this email to people you know who are willing to get in this fight the three short weeks we have left until the Vote Centers open September 5, 6, 7, 9 and, on election day, September 10.



The nation is watching this recall and a WIN will be a 'shot heard around the world.' This is a chance for all of us to unite to let Colorado and the Country know that Sen. John Morse does NOT represent the will of the people in SD 11 -- or Colorado.

[Roger Ronas]

Just got this from the El Paso County Elections

Greetings from the Office of the El Paso County Clerk and Recorder.This email concerns the September 10, 2013, State Senate District 11 Recall Election. This Recall Election will only utilize Voter Service and Polling Centers (VSPCs). Mail ballots will NOT be automatically mailed to the voters of State Senate District 11.We will have seven Voter Service and Polling Center sites available for this Recall Election. Their locations and hours are as follows:Open Thursday, September 5th to Monday, September 9th from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (excluding Sunday, September 8th)andOpen Tuesday, September 10th from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Main
Citizens Service Center Centennial Hall
1675 West Garden of the Gods Road

Downtown – Lower Level
200 South Cascade
Suite 2202 Colorado Springs, CO 80903
Colorado Springs, CO 80907

North
NW Corner of Union and Research SE Corner of Powers Boulevard and Airport Road
8830 North Union Boulevard


Southeast Powers – Upper Level
5650 Industrial Place
Colorado Springs, CO 80920 Colorado Springs, CO 80916
Open Monday, September 9th from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.andOpen Tuesday, September 10th from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.Manitou Springs
City Administration Building
Memorial Hall
606 Manitou Avenue
Manitou Springs, CO 80829

Regional Building – Upper Level
Pikes Peak Regional Building Department
BOCC Hearing Room
2880 International Circle
Colorado Springs, CO 80910

Zalman Center at Harrison High School
2755 Janitell Road
Colorado Springs, CO 80906

[dan512]

Ok, please pardon me for a dumb question, but the above article makes it seem as though you can show up to vote at any of the locations listed, at any of the given times. Am I reading that correctly? Could I vote as early as Sept 5th?

[Roger Ronas]

I took it as that as well. I think yes you can vote at any given location at those times.
Roger


Ok, please pardon me for a dumb question, but the above article makes it seem as though you can show up to vote at any of the locations listed, at any of the given times. Am I reading that correctly? Could I vote as early as Sept 5th?

[HoneyBadger]

I received this question from several of my co-workers today when I was explaining why Morse needed to be recalled, and I didn't really have a good answer for them:

"I work a full time job (7am-5pm, Monday through Friday) but I want to help in any way possible... I don't live in Morse's district, so what can I do?"

Aloha, apart from working phone banks, is there anything else they can do?

[Aloha_Shooter]

Ways people outside SD11 can help:

1. Donate to BFDF or iaceaction.com (http://www.iaceaction.com/) (I Am Created Equal's 501c4) -- Laura Carno's IACE is paying for the most effective radio ads educating the public about Morse's record so donating to her 501c4 will help keep these on the air
2. Help us with honk and waves on the weekend
3. Put a "Recall Morse" bumper sticker on your vehicle so people see the widespread support for getting rid of the bum
4. Talk to anyone you know in SD11 about getting him out
5. Make sure anti-Morse people in SD11 are registered
6. Volunteer to help drive anti-Morse people to the polls
7. Get people in SD11 to plant Recall Morse yard signs in their lawns
8. Help spread the word when they're downtown with our handy Recall Morse business cards and talking points
9. Write letters to the editor, call radio shows and badger the local TV news to tell the truth about what Morse has done, why he was asked to leave virtually every job he's held, etc.
10. Push back on every ridiculous claim by Socialist sympathizers about this being a misuse of recall laws or an NRA operation.

I work a full time job too. We have 6-8 shifts on weekdays, I'm heading over Friday after returning from a TDY for a four hour shift and am pulling 8 hours on Sunday (I'd work Saturday too but we have the Boy Scout Shootarama that day). On election days, we're trying to motivate pro-recall people to go to the polls and also trying to provide rides where needed. We need to make sure they're properly registered before voting -- I saw a significant number of people sign our petition with valid addresses inside SD11 but who weren't registered with Colorado. Remember, military dependents are supposed to transfer citizenship (and reregister) in their state of physical residence. Even military who claim another state as Home of Record or college students from out of state could register to vote locally if they have an intent to reside here. If they happen to change their mind before they've had a chance to change their Home of Record ... well, they gave Colorado a chance but the numbers just didn't work ...

[Aloha_Shooter]

^^^ Sorry, the above sounds a little flippant ... I had just got home and am trying to pack for a flight tomorrow. I know everyone's busy -- whatever they can do is deeply appreciated. I'm sure it'd be harder for me to do this if I had other things sucking up my time like kids to take care of.

[mtnrider]

"3. Put a "Recall Morse" bumper sticker on your vehicle so people see the widespread support for getting rid of the bum"

Where can we get the bumper stickers?

I have been passing the word to everyone I know that lives in D11 to get out and vote.

[Zundfolge]

7. Get people in SD11 to plant Recall Morse yard signs in their lawns
I'm in SD11 ... I've seen several yard signs, but I have no idea where to get a sign ... who do I call?

[brutal]

"3. Put a "Recall Morse" bumper sticker on your vehicle so people see the widespread support for getting rid of the bum"

Where can we get the bumper stickers?

I have been passing the word to everyone I know that lives in D11 to get out and vote.

If you donated, they sent you one. Not sure otherwise.

[Aloha_Shooter]

"3. Put a "Recall Morse" bumper sticker on your vehicle so people see the widespread support for getting rid of the bum"

Where can we get the bumper stickers?

I have been passing the word to everyone I know that lives in D11 to get out and vote.


I'm in SD11 ... I've seen several yard signs, but I have no idea where to get a sign ... who do I call?

Both bumper stickers and yard signs are available from the Recall Morse office located at 109 E Kiowa. Stop by, e-mail or call (recallsenjohnmorse@gmail.com, (recallsenjohnmorse@gmail.com) 719-749-8051) ... not sure we'll deliver bumper stickers but we have shifts scheduled for people to deliver yard signs -- in fact, I'm doing that Friday when I get back into town but I'm sure they'll try to get one to you sooner if possible.

[mountainjenny]

I donated, but didn't get one.

Its cool though. I don't usually put stickers on my vehicles.

[jerrymrc]

All I will say is the Morse gang has been out in force. Since my wife is a reg dem and she signed the petition They have called at least 6 times asking for her and come to the door once.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

All I will say is the Morse gang has been out in force. Since my wife is a reg dem and she signed the petition They have called at least 6 times asking for her and come to the door once.

Presumably to try to talk her out of what she signed in the petition?

[Zundfolge]

Got my sign ... its in the yard offending our Democrat neighbors :D

They have plenty of signs so y'all get down there and pick yours up and offend your Democrat neighbors too ... It's FUN!

[jerrymrc]

Presumably to try to talk her out of what she signed in the petition?

Very much so. I think the guy at the door got the hint since I had on an Military match shirt and the wife was wearing a "Right arm of the free world" Fal shirt. [LOL]

[sniper7]

Got my recall morse sticker on the hoe. Hopefully all at the airport parking get to see it.

[brutal]

Last week, I made a point to pass an SUV on c-470 with Obama Biden stickers all over it and plant my ass right in front of him with my REcallMORSE bumper sticker, Protected By the Second Amendment, Magpul, and NRA stickers and several NRA hats in the back window. :D

[3beansalad]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/08/23/morse-under-fire-colorado-springs-leaders-blast-senate-president-on-ethics-child-predator-laws/

[kidicarus13]

Can I send a SASE and get a bumper sticker even thought I don't live in the district?

[Aloha_Shooter]

kidicarus, I think they'd go ahead and send you one. Address is 109 E Kiowa St, Colorado Springs, CO 80903-1704

[kidicarus13]

kidicarus, I think they'd go ahead and send you one. Address is 109 E Kiowa St, Colorado Springs, CO 80903-1704

Thanks, I just mailed a donation instead.

[Skullworks]

Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam - And Morris must be recalled.

[Aloha_Shooter]

With only two weeks left, we need your help!




We are two weeks away from the first recall election in Colorado's history and we could not have gotten this far without your help. As always, we are grateful for every dollar and every minute you have shared in getting us here in defense of our rights. But - also as always, it seems - we are not yet out of the woods.

We at the Basic Freedom Defense Fund have done exactly what we promised to do - we've given our fellow citizens a chance to make their voices heard, despite having been silenced and ignored by the people we pay to represent us. We fought with everything we had to get the question "Shall John Morse be recalled from office?" on a ballot. But it's not enough.

As consumed as our lives have been by this recall effort, it's shocking to us to find that many district voters still aren't aware that an election is imminent. Some believe that the question will be on the general ballot in November. Some believe that getting the petition signatures certified was enough to ensure that John Morse would be removed. Some believe that the election is still mail-in-only and they will patiently wait for a ballot that will never arrive. All are wrong and
risk squandering the opportunity we've afforded them.

We need to reach out to these people and educate them before it's too late. And we need your help - again - to make that happen.

It's our goal to launch a final educational campaign in Senate District 11 and the surrounding areas, alerting district voters to the details of the upcoming election and asking those outside the district to pitch in and spread the word. It will cost money that we simply do not have and that is not forthcoming from other groups or parties.

However, this mailing list has over 2,500 recipients. If everyone reading this gave even $10, we would have more than enough funding to contact the citizens of Colorado Springs with the information they need to finish what we began and to bring accountability to John Morse and other politicians of his ilk.

Any amount will help and we won't be asking again. Because, in two very short weeks, this will be over - one way or the other. If you can give, do give and take this last chance to remind our legislators that "we, the people" still own our rights - and they are not for sale.




With Sincerest Thanks,


The Basic Freedom Defense Fund



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[Dr_Scholl]

So what's the general consensus on this over there? I've been keeping an eye on the recall and IMO Morse is done, but what do y'all think the chances are?

[Zundfolge]

So what's the general consensus on this over there? I've been keeping an eye on the recall and IMO Morse is done, but what do y'all think the chances are?

It all depends on how much cheating the Dems do ... the election laws have recently been amended to allow for election day registration (so you can go to the voting site, register right then and there and vote ... theoretically you could go from precinct to precinct registering and voting and your malfeasance wouldn't be discovered until after the count).

If there's little to no cheating then Morse is done several times over.

[Dr_Scholl]

It all depends on how much cheating the Dems do ... the election laws have recently been amended to allow for election day registration (so you can go to the voting site, register right then and there and vote ... theoretically you could go from precinct to precinct registering and voting and your malfeasance wouldn't be discovered until after the count).

If there's little to no cheating then Morse is done several times over.

What about Giron?

[Zundfolge]

What about Giron?

Dunno ... gonna have to wait for someone from Pueblo to weigh in there.

[zulu01]

The Bloomberg Bucks are flowing to Morse and Giron.

http://kdvr.com/2013/08/27/bloomberg-gives-350k-to-morse-girons-recall-defense/


Donated to BFDF.

[Zundfolge]

The Bloomberg Bucks are flowing to Morse and Giron.

Hmm ... that's less than I figured Mikey would send. So that could mean one of three things:



Mikey and his leftard buddies are going to funnel tons more money via more obfuscated routes.
Mikey and his leftard buddies see the writing on the wall and know Morse and Giron are going down.
Mikey and his leftard buddies know the fix is in and the Dems are gonna cheat BIG time.


I'm hoping for #2 (but figure it's probably #1)

[th3w01f]

The Bloomberg Bucks are flowing to Morse and Giron.

http://kdvr.com/2013/08/27/bloomberg-gives-350k-to-morse-girons-recall-defense/


Donated to BFDF.
I think this needs it's own thread.

[merl]

Hmm ... that's less than I figured Mikey would send. So that could mean one of three things:



Mikey and his leftard buddies are going to funnel tons more money via more obfuscated routes.
Mikey and his leftard buddies see the writing on the wall and know Morse and Giron are going down.
Mikey and his leftard buddies know the fix is in and the Dems are gonna cheat BIG time.


I'm hoping for #2 (but figure it's probably #1)

I'll go with option 4: over 750k to spend in a local election far exceeds the point of diminishing returns.

There were only 25k people that voted for those two jokers in the last election (going by memory could be wrong) and that was a presidential one that brings everyone out. Since you cannot yet go out and pay for votes there is only so much to spend money on.

Anyone know what those 2 spent on their last election?

[whiskey]

Aloha, is there a paypal option? I want to contribute.

[Dave]

So apparently you don't have to vote yes to vote for another candidate in the recall. How does that work for the process? If you don't vote yes or no, but vote for another listed candidate the candidate still gets the vote? What if enough people don't check yes but the republican gets 50%+? Can the dems argue that the recall was defeated since not enough yes votes were cast? http://kdvr.com/2013/08/27/colo-supreme-court-rules-voters-dont-have-to-complete-recall-ballots/

[Aloha_Shooter]

whiskey, yes, you can donate via Paypal. I made my last donation precisely that way.

Dave, I hate how unclear the court was on that point. Since the recall campaign is non-partisan (no, really!), we have simply been stressing that people vote Yes on the first question. While I have my preferences, I honestly don't care if a Dem wins the election as long as Morse has to give up his special license plates, keys, special parking spot, etc. on Sep 11.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Oh, by the way, if you want to donate anonymously like so many of Obama's (and Morse's) supporters, donate to Laura Carno's 501c4, IACE Action (http://iaceaction.com).

[spqrzilla]

Heard third hand through someone who is active in the local Democratic party and has been working phone bank calling into Morse's district to drum up support for him against recall. Quote: "I've never been told to f** off so much in my life."

And that person was calling their phone list of registered Democrats.

We gotta keep up the pressure, but success is in reach. Its going to be a turn out election. If we can motivate our supporters to turn out, Morse is history.

[sellersm]

Just got this email from the Basic Freedom Defense Fund:



NYC MAYOR BLOOMBERG POURS $350,000 INTO COLORADO TO DEFEND MORSE & GIRON


In Case You Missed It:
Proof of Morse’s and Giron’s “Outside Interests” revealed in new Campaign Finance filings


Denver --- In the last 24 hours, FOX 31 broke the news that the real “outside interests” in Colorado’s first-ever Recall Elections have been revealed to be on the side of Senators John Morse and Angela Giron.

FOX 31’s Eli Stokols reports:

“New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg wrote a personal check for $350,000 to Taxpayers for Responsible Democracy, the 527 group backing the recall campaigns targeting Senate President John Morse and Sen. Angela Giron.

FOX31 Denver is first to report the group’s contributions report, filed Tuesday with the Secretary of State.

Bloomberg’s contribution reportedly came just last week, according to multiple sources close to the campaign.”

And Bloomberg isn’t the only out-of-state influence. FOX also reports money from Los Angeles and Miami:

“Billionaire Eli Broad also wrote a $250,000 check to the organization, which raised a total of $708,000 in contributions between April and Aug. 22…

…Miami philanthropist Barbara Stiefel… wrote a check for $20,000.”

Source: http://kdvr.com/2013/08/27/bloomberg-gives-350k-to-morse-girons-recall-defense (http://t.ymlp282.net/wqazaushbbanauwqaiaehue/click.php)/


Today’s campaign finance reports reveal what we have known all along: that the ‘outside interests’ in this campaign were on the side of Senators Morse and Giron. This Recall movement has been a local, organic, Colorado movement that YOU all have supported from day one, and we have been fought every step of the way by big, out-of-state interests.

Senator John Morse and Angela Giron owe the citizens who live and work here an apology for the attacks in which they accused regular, everyday citizens of the very thing Morse and Giron knew they were doing, hand-over-fist: accepting out-of-state money.

Our Money Comes from YOU - Locally.

The report on Morse’s and Giron’s out-of-state money comes the same day the Basic Freedom Defense Fund filed its campaign finance report for the Committee to Recall John Morse, which shows that the majority of donors are from in-state Colorado, and that 90 percent of their donations are in the amounts of $500 or less.

“We are the true grassroots organization. We represent folks like YOU who live here, work here, and simply want their State back from the East Coast special interests like Mayor Bloomberg who influenced this past legislative session.

We said we wouldn't ask again but this is what we're up against. We need your help.


Beat back Bloomberg. Help take back our State. Send us $50, $75, or $100. Whatever you can. Your Contribution CAN and WILL make a difference in this fight. Click to Donate now.

Sincerely,

The Basic Freedom Defense Fund
Tim
Keith
Anthony
Luke
Nick
Tyler



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Or alternatively you can go to our website, www.bfdf.org (http://t.ymlp282.net/qsaiaushbbanauwqadaehue/click.php) and click on "Donations" in the upper right hand corner.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Heard third hand through someone who is active in the local Democratic party and has been working phone bank calling into Morse's district to drum up support for him against recall. Quote: "I've never been told to f** off so much in my life."

Hahahaha ... you just made my day.

[jerrymrc]

"I've never been told to f** off so much in my life." I did not tell the guy on the phone that in the one call I had a conversation with but might as well have. In the end I do remember telling him that his actions and bills had nothing to do with gun violence and everything to do with control of law abiding citizens.

[Dr_Scholl]

This guy predicts a split decision with Morse getting ousted and Giron surviving. http://nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/356831/forecast-split-decision-colorado-recalls-jim-geraghty

[mtnrider]

I have seen it all now! Just watched a gun review on Youtube. Low and behold the little advertisement that popped up at the bottom of the video? "Say No to Morse Recall" with link. Are you F'n kidding me! Tell me that guy is not got some Major $$ backing and media campaign going.

[<MADDOG>]

There was an article in the local rag today; Morse's proxy's (or vice versa) are out spending 2-1 in my loose math.. Oh, and Bloomberg is a main contributor...

http://gazette.com/new-york-mayor-michael-bloomberg-nra-join-the-colorado-recall-fray/article/1505424

[spqrzilla]

We got to get out and hustle. Call everyone you know in that district.

[Zundfolge]

We got to get out and hustle. Call everyone you know in that district.

And that's what I've been doing and now I'm super bummed out.

I was verifying that a friend of mine lived in SD11 (map here) (http://goo.gl/maps/SBKDn) when I happened to glance up to my neighborhood and I'm exactly 3 blocks outside the district in SD9. :(

WTF? I could SWEAR I voted against Morse (I have long held a deep and burning hatred for the schmuck and when I saw his name on the ballot I had to suppress a war cry as I brought my pen to his Republican opponent's box).

So what happened?

Did they gerrymander me out of the district AFTER the last election?
Did the poll worker give me the wrong ballot (afterall, there's 4-5 precincts that voted at the same polling location)?
Am I loosing my mind?

I was SO looking forward to voting in this recall (and I guess my wife and I account for two of the signatures that were thrown out).

Oh well, I still have 3 friends living in SD11 and I shall hound them mercilessly until September 10th.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Zundfolge, they DID gerrymander the district last year. I think the Dems were doing everything they could to make the district safer for Morse and Merrifield. Having said that, the map you posted attempts to recreate the official map at http://car.elpasoco.com/Election/Documents/Senate11.pdf. If you have any questions, you should check your registration at http://www.govotecolorado.com/ as I've found discrepancies in the past.

[Zundfolge]

Yeah, I verified my registration on the govotecolorado site and that's when my heart sunk ... I'm in SD9 (I guess the upside to that is I'm actually represented since Ken Lambert is a good guy).


Oh well, I'm keeping the bumper sticker on my car, sign in my yard and I'll continue to pester my friends that ARE in SD11 until after Sept 10. :D


Side note, the recalls (and the state of the GOP in general and Dudley's possible impact) were discussed on the latest Devil's Advocate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9S6g7BDxcQ

[babirl]

I hope I'm putting this in the correct place:

"Trailer" for NRA Investigative Report (pro-style/similar to Katrina JBTs/confiscation) coming next week: http://www.nranews.com/ginny/video/colorado-gun-law-recall-your-voice-your-vote-our-freedoms/list/ginny-feature. (I understand there are NRA Pro-level ads FINALLY coming too!)

Many of the cameos ARE the no-bull grassroots folks that made the Morse/Giron recalls happen... Talk about long and absurdly SAD stories. [Mad]

Regardless, IF you live or know of anybody in SD-11 now is the time to get busy and remind them to check the recall box/toss Morse on principal and lack of integrity alone!

I understand it's an uphill battle against outright voter fraud in Pueblo w/ Giron...


B2

Locally, BFDF.org IS now the consolidated fund for immediate help (aka, air-time/paying off legal funds) for both recall efforts and every $5 helps vs. Bloomberg's $350K, SEIU's $100K, and whatever... You can ignore the "Durango" address for BFDF as it was formed by a good man there and became the "face" of grassroots CO.

I can put you in touch w/ many of the folks on the NRA video or you're welcome to e-mail/IM.

(Yeah, this is no Rep/Dem, nor RMGO or even NRA bunch... Talk about a SAD, and long road fighting BOTH/ALL directions.)

[Zundfolge]

Of course we could all vote in the recall ... just register in SD11 claiming you "intend to move there" and as long as you don't vote twice in the same election it doesn't matter if you change your mind and end up not voting to SD11.

[mb504]

Not sure if this has been posted... here is a letter from the other side:


The gun lobby is trying to force the recall of two Colorado state senators because they passed background check legislation supported by an overwhelming number of Coloradans.

Senators John Morse and Angela Giron showed real leadership -- and now they are facing a calculated strike by the NRA and the Washington gun lobby.

Coloradans are standing up for the brave legislators who passed laws that are already keeping us safe.

Please make a donation right now to fight the recall of Senators Morse and Giron -- and tell the national gun lobby to keep the politics for an election year.

The gun lobby wants to intimidate legislators across the country. They want to send a message that if you vote for common sense public safety laws, the NRA will come for you, even before your term is up. We have to return their message and let them know it was rejected by the people of Colorado.

The gun lobby is betting that most voters will stay at home. Their plan is to mobilize extremists in low-turnout, low-threshold districts. But we can stop them if we get more people to the polls.

Voting will only take place in person, for only five days, at a handful of locations across the district. Defeating the NRA in this recall election will depend on a majority of voters in Morse's and Giron's districts knowing how and when and why to vote.

That's why we need your support for simply but effective tactics like phone banks, fliers, and volunteer organizers:

http://act.demandaction.org/signup/VolunteerPledge

We're only asking Coloradans to make donations, because this is Colorado's fight -- and we're not going to sit by while Washington gun lobbyists try to mess with our state.

Thanks for your donation. I'll keep you in the loop.

Mark

Mark Glaze
Executive Director
Mayors Against Illegal Guns


Just makes me want to send NRA-ILA a few more dollars.

[Danimal]

Not sure if this has been posted... here is a letter from the other side:


Just makes me want to send NRA-ILA a few more dollars.

Wow reading that made me pissed off enough to donate to the The Basic Freedom Defense Fun (http://www.basicfreedomdefensefund.org/)d again. Fuck that guy. I thought about volunteering for Morse to act as a call center and then calling as many people as I could telling them "Hi I am calling from the Demand Action campaign, and John Morse is an ass hat. We at Demand Action think that John Morse is in the process of producing highly refined weapons grade bullshit to make a bullshit bomb to use against the good people of Colorado. Kick his ass out." and see where that opener got me.

[mountainjenny]

I thought about volunteering for Morse to act as a call center and then calling as many people as I could telling them "Hi I am calling from the Demand Action campaign, and John Morse is an ass hat. We at Demand Action think that John Morse is in the process of producing highly refined weapons grade bullshit to make a bullshit bomb to use against the good people of Colorado. Kick his ass out." and see where that opener got me.

I'm right with you on this. We could carpool. [ROFL2]

[Dr_Scholl]

Wow reading that made me pissed off enough to donate to the The Basic Freedom Defense Fun (http://www.basicfreedomdefensefund.org/)d again. Fuck that guy. I thought about volunteering for Morse to act as a call center and then calling as many people as I could telling them "Hi I am calling from the Demand Action campaign, and John Morse is an ass hat. We at Demand Action think that John Morse is in the process of producing highly refined weapons grade bullshit to make a bullshit bomb to use against the good people of Colorado. Kick his ass out." and see where that opener got me.

Thanks for the link, I donated $25.

[halletts]

Sick of the nonsense Morse and Giron ads. Next months family camping funds just went to the Basic Freedom Defense Fund. Hope it can make some sort of difference...

[babirl]

NO BULL, can't have enough $5/$10/$20s sent to BFDF in the next few days (no kidding, this effort is basically working for tips that are keeping the doors open): http://www.basicfreedomdefensefund.org/

IF you do have time in the next several days (or questions), consider helping personally and I believe this is set up in CO SPGS: (719) 749-8051 or sign up online to Volunteer: https://www.signupgenius.com/go/10C0D4BA8AD29A2FB6-getout (http://t.ymlp294.net/qeagaushybaaaubapahbb/click.php)

Yep, it's THAT important and has become a "national-level" referendum for a sellout/commie-scumbag's gerrymandered district... Giron's still running scared too!

B2

[hatidua]

I just went through the donation process and all the steps to send them $50 and when I got to the final step where you click to confirm, it said "page not found". oh well...

edit: make that twice, I tried on a different computer with the same results.

[zteknik]

I just went through the donation process and all the steps to send them $50 and when I got to the final step where you click to confirm, it said "page not found". oh well...

edit: make that twice, I tried on a different computer with the same results.

I wouldn't put it bast Bloomies crowd to sabotage their site...

[Bowtie]

Just donated again. Keep up the good fight and Eff Bloomberg.

[BPTactical]

Is there a way to donate via phone? Really don't want to do the online thing

[hatidua]

Is there a way to donate via phone? Really don't want to do the online thing

Believe me, I looked for a phone number on their site when it wouldn't take my money (twice) and alas, there's no phone number to contact them.

C'mon folks, if you want my money, make it easy for me to give it to you! I buy stuff online DAILY and no other site seems to hang-up with my credit cards or Paypal... I donated a lot of money back when the various anti-2A bills were being proposed and I was willing to donate to this cause but if their site won't let me give them money I'm left with spending it elsewhere.

Maybe their system doesn't like Apple products, and I don't drive an IBM so the barrier continues.

[Rooskibar03]

Sent them 25 bucks. That letter from opposition pissed me off

[Aloha_Shooter]

hatidua, I really don't know what your problem is. All I can tell you is both of my donations have been done on MacBooks using Firefox and the last one was processed through Paypal. Call Tamra and ask about an over the phone donation. I'll send you her number via PM ... don't want it on the board where Bloomberg's code monkeys can scrape it.

[kidicarus13]

kidicarus, I think they'd go ahead and send you one. Address is 109 E Kiowa St, Colorado Springs, CO 80903-1704

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/01/uza7esu4.jpg

Well, I tried.

[hatidua]

hatidua, I really don't know what your problem is. All I can tell you is both of my donations have been done on MacBooks using Firefox and the last one was processed through Paypal. Call Tamra and ask about an over the phone donation. I'll send you her number via PM ... don't want it on the board where Bloomberg's code monkeys can scrape it.

Thanks for your help, we're all set :)

[Gman]

Are they being picky about not addressing to Kiowa Street?

[Aloha_Shooter]

I have no idea what the post office's problem with that was but send me a SASE and I'll send you a bumper sticker. I grabbed a few from the recall office today after holding a sign this afternoon.

[Zundfolge]

So I noticed that there was a "Vote No" sign out front of the Agia Sophia Coffee Shop (http://agiasophiacoffeeshop.com/)on Colorado ave ... it's a coffee shop that is frequented by a lot of conservatives and Christians so I was a little surprised to see the sign.

I called them and asked about the sign, the girl that answered the phone didn't think they put it up there and had no idea it was there but she would "look into it".

Its a great little coffee shop that doesn't have an atmosphere soaked in Godless liberalism like most others so I hate to see them falling "to the dark side". So hopefully they'll pull the sign down (besides, I'll really miss their food ... in fact I could really go for a Mediterranean Plate right now :( )

But for those of you here that also frequent the place, you might put a call in or post on their facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/agiasophiacoffeeshop)(I'm not on Facebook or I'd have posted there too).

Be polite, but remind them that a large percentage of their clientele are very strongly opposed to Morse and supportive of the recall.

[hatidua]

the girl that answered the phone didn't think they put it up

She could be right about that. I've had political signs placed in my lawn that I never put there. I suspect some campaigns have excess signs and just go around sticking them wherever they think visibility is good.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Bear in mind the strip between the sidewalk and the street itself is considered fair game. The business itself can complain to the committee that put the sign up and ask for it to be removed but it's not considered trespassing to place the sign there. There ARE restrictions though ... the sign is supposed to be 2 feet from the sidewalk and 2 feet from the street. I tried not to place signs in front of businesses or homes that were obviously anti-recall but I didn't ask permission for placing them near intersections as long as it was in the public easement area.

A pro- or anti-recall sign on that public easement really isn't an indicator of the business or home's leanings. A sign on their lawn proper or in the window would be.

[Zundfolge]

So can anyone remove the sign after its been placed? Especially if its in front of your business?

I'm thinking more and more that the sign was placed there by Morse supporters that wanted to poke Agia Sophia and its conservative/Christian customers in the eye. Bastards.

[Madeinhb]

So can anyone remove the sign after its been placed? Especially if its in front of your business?

I'm thinking more and more that the sign was placed there by Morse supporters that wanted to poke Agia Sophia and its conservative/Christian customers in the eye. Bastards.

Get the opponents sign and put 2 in front and back. No one will see it

[Aloha_Shooter]

Get the opponents sign and put 2 in front and back. No one will see it

No, don't do that. We can't place signs within 4 feet of the opposition and it's a first-come-first-served priority. We took pictures of where we placed signs so we could see if Morse's people were doing this to us (moving our sign so they got better placement). All you do with this is discredit Morse's opposition (i.e., us) because Morse will claim we did it.

You're not supposed to remove political signs on public easement areas -- it violates his free speech rights and can make us look bad. A property owner can of course exercise his or her property rights to remove anything s/he considers unsafe/unsightly/unacceptable/etc. but need to check with a real lawyer about whether there's an easement there or not.

Let him place his signs whereever ... the real question is who is getting the hearts and minds of the constituents. If Agia Sophia wants to counter his sign, all they have to do is place a sign in the window or in front of their door saying "Vote Yes" or even "We Have No Position on Recall". The Recall campaign would be happy to give them one of their signs, they'd have to make their own "No Position" sign but at least it would clarify their neutrality.

I don't sense a great deal of love for Morse except in a very small minority of Democrats. This recall effort has enlightened me on just how little attention most people pay to local politics like the State legislature. I suspect most who voted for him did so because there was "D" next to his name they were going straight down the party line.

[Zundfolge]

Well, drove by Agia Sophia at lunch and the sign is gone.

[hatidua]

I don't sense a great deal of love for Morse except in a very small minority of Democrats. This recall effort has enlightened me on just how little attention most people pay to local politics like the State legislature. I suspect most who voted for him did so because there was "D" next to his name they were going straight down the party line.

In terms of visibility down there, are there more Yes or No signs when driving around? I live far enough North of this that I've not seen a single sign supporting either side. Any hunch on how this is going to play out?

[Aloha_Shooter]

I'm a little biased ... I helped place signs 2-3 weeks ago before Morse's people were doing anything about the election. Since then, I've been mainly outside the district and hadn't seen any pro-Morse yard signs until Saturday and very few of them were in yards (as opposed to public easement areas -- which honestly is where we placed most signs on our first weekend). On the other hand, I was walking through the district Saturday and got flagged down a couple times by people who saw me carrying yard signs and asked if they could have one. I'm pretty confident that Morse is going to get b-slapped next week Tuesday as long as the anti-Morse voters turn out to vote and the Dems don't pull some of the shenanigans we're afraid of. At least El Paso has a Clerk & Recorder who won't be conducting the shenanigans himself like Pueblo seems to.

[funkymonkey1111]

Is there any final weekend plans from anyone on the thread here--going down, holding signs, walking the precinct? I got an email from Tancredo this AM talkiing about a caravan down to the El Paso Republican party for just that on Saturday, which I'm planning to do unless there's another opportunity to do work

[Zundfolge]

In terms of visibility down there, are there more Yes or No signs when driving around? I live far enough North of this that I've not seen a single sign supporting either side. Any hunch on how this is going to play out?

There are SIGNIFICANTLY more Vote Yes signs ... I'd say they out number Vote No sighs by 5 to 1.


Funny thing is I put one in my yard (even though I'm just outside SD11) and the libtards on either side of me went right out and got Vote No signs.

[th3w01f]

This may be a repost but I thought it was funny that he managed to piss off the pro pot bunch.

http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2013/09/03/nations-worst-pot-politican-john-morse-facing-recall/


The Marijuana Policy Project, a grassroots organization supportive of marijuana legalization, has named Colorado Senate President John Morse as the worst state legislator with a stance on marijuana issues in the country. (http://www.csindy.com/IndyBlog/archives/2013/08/09/marijuana-sen-morse-named-worst-legislator-of-2013)

[mtnrider]

I just went out for lunch and noticed a couple vote yes signs near my office have been removed or covered up by vote no signs. I know one was there 2 days ago and has been replaced with a vote no sign. The next corner up there are 2 vote no signs that were placed within a foot of the yes sign pretty much blocking it from view.

Pretty lame on thier part but par for the course from them.

[KAPA]

So voting has started. Any early results?

[hollohas]

Here's a very interesting map. It shows where the money is coming from and is separated into pro and anti recall maps. Guess what...the Anti-recall map shows an amazing amount coming in from out-of-state. Not so much for the pro's.

But the anti's continue to lie and say it's out-of-state interests that created this recall. amazing.

http://gazette.com/interactive-map-who-donated-to-the-colorado-recall-election/article/1505839

[Zundfolge]

Jon Caldara is going to come down from Denver to vote in the SD11 recall.

http://bringinthevote.com/independence-institute-president-jon-caldara-to-vote-legally-in-morse-recall/


Independence Institute President Jon Caldara to Vote Legally in Morse Recall
DENVER, Colo — The Independence Institute president will exercise his legal voting rights in next week’s recall election, casting a ballot in a district outside his current residence.
Independence Institute president Jon Caldara’s decision to vote in the Senate District 11 recall kicks off the “Bring in the Vote” educational campaign, highlighting the significant legal changes in Colorado’s “Voter Access and Modernized Elections Act,” signed into law by Gov. John Hickenlooper on May 10.
Calling attention to the lax new election law sponsored by Senators John Morse and Angela Giron, both facing recall elections, Caldara announced that he has the “intention” to make his permanent home in Senate District 11, currently represented by Morse.
Under HB 1303, the “intention” to establish residence along with a few minor requirements such as being 18 years of age, living in Colorado for 22 days, and having an address in the district, permits almost anyone to “Bring in the Vote” and cast a ballot in any district.
“It is my belief that this extremely sloppy new election law was designed to legally move voters into districts where their vote is most useful. I will show how this dangerous new law works by easily and legally voting in the John Morse recall election,” explained Caldara.
“John Morse sponsored this law and worked its passage through the Senate. And now, sadly, under this law future Colorado elections will be decided by which candidate has the most buses.”
To inform voters concerning their voting rights under the new law, the Independence Institute has launched an educational website: www.BringInTheVote.com. (http://bringinthevote.com/)
“Though we may disagree on issues and candidates, I hope we all will agree that all Coloradans should be fully informed of their new voting rights and how to exercise them,” Caldara said.
The Independence Institute is a non-partisan, non-profit public policy research organization based in Denver, Colo.




Big. Brass. Godspeed Mr. Caldara.

[Irving]

Holy crap. That map sure is telling.

[DeusExMachina]

So, who's got the address of a hotel in SD11?

He's absolutely, 100% right. They made voter fraud legal. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how they win this recall.

[Dave]

So, who's got the address of a hotel in SD11?

He's absolutely, 100% right. They made voter fraud legal. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how they win this recall.
Still waiting to see if more votes get cast in either of these districts than they have registered voters.

[DeusExMachina]

Still waiting to see if more votes get cast in either of these districts than they have registered voters.

That wont happen because it's now legal to register to vote on election day. I'm not sure how you'd catch it, you could explain away registered votes vs. taxpayers (which wouldn't count democrats anyway). Mailing addresses too, because multiple people can live in the same home.

The only way to know would be the next election, you could determine who registered in SD11 and registered in another district in 2014. But still, that's plenty of time to move.

They really broke the republic.

[KAPA]

In looking at the map I am wondering if we may just be outnumbered?

[KAPA]

Here's a very interesting map. It shows where the money is coming from and is separated into pro and anti recall maps. Guess what...the Anti-recall map shows an amazing amount coming in from out-of-state. Not so much for the pro's.

But the anti's continue to lie and say it's out-of-state interests that created this recall. amazing.

http://gazette.com/interactive-map-who-donated-to-the-colorado-recall-election/article/1505839

Amazing, you can click on the dots and see who is paying for this. Lots of law firms around denver want to grab guns it seems. Also on the list are Fire Fighter organizations. I see this ending bad for us. Money talks and they have a LOT of it!

[Dr_Scholl]

Almost 2,500 people voted today in SD11 http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_24021911/recall-democratic-sen-john-morse-underway-el-paso

[hatidua]

I just went out for lunch and noticed a couple vote yes signs near my office have been removed or covered up by vote no signs. I know one was there 2 days ago and has been replaced with a vote no sign. The next corner up there are 2 vote no signs that were placed within a foot of the yes sign pretty much blocking it from view.

Pretty lame on thier part but par for the course from them.

In a situation like that, fair is fair. And, no, I will not elaborate, infer as needed and get the job done.

[vossman]

I cant wait for this to be over, the commercials are pissing me off.

[Rocky Mtn AR]

Yes, you too can vote against Morse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9bEc5n9_kU www.BringInTheVote.com (http://www.BringInTheVote.com) Pass it on!

[Bailey Guns]

I'm a little torn on this. As much as I want to see the recalls go in our favor I refuse to lower myself to the standards of the other side.

[mdflem51]

The laws have to work their way through the courts,that`s where we`re at. He likes it up the pooper..maybe AIDS will "recall" him? He`s going to answer in the "end"

[roberth]

So, who's got the address of a hotel in SD11?

He's absolutely, 100% right. They made voter fraud legal. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how they win this recall.

You can't use a hotel room, it has to be a residence.

[roberth]

I'm a little torn on this. As much as I want to see the recalls go in our favor I refuse to lower myself to the standards of the other side.

I am having the same problem, just because it is legal doesn't make it right.

[BPTactical]

I understand integrity but to hell with them, fight fire with fire.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Personally, I don't want to give them any ammunition to claim the election was stolen ... I think Morse is going to get hammered anyway. The difference between Morse and Obama is that some Democrats still actually like Obama for some reason. I see people supporting Morse because they're hyper-partisan Democrats and exteme liberals but that's about it.

[Dr_Scholl]

Early turnout results for anyone interested. Looking good so far. http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/09/05/john-morse-recall-bernie-herpin-he-polls-democrat-john-morse/100136/

[DireWolf]

You can't use a hotel room, it has to be a residence.

Can it be a P.O. Box? I mean, if you're planning to move into the district, a local P.O. box would be a good place to start......

[DireWolf]

I understand integrity but to hell with them, fight fire with fire.

+1

[Bailey Guns]

Personally, I don't want to give them any ammunition to claim the election was stolen ...

That's my biggest concern. Though I'm sure the liberals won't have a problem, morally or as a practical matter, violating the law or their principles(?) to do what they can to win.

[Dave]

Sticking to morals could lose the election if busses start rolling from Boulder. Though my wife doesn't seem to understand that.

[Dave]

Early turnout results for anyone interested. Looking good so far. http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/09/05/john-morse-recall-bernie-herpin-he-polls-democrat-john-morse/100136/
How are there more registered Dems than Repubs there? Seems odd.

[hollohas]

Wasn't the district restructured a couple years ago? My guess is they designed it to have more dems.

[Rabid]

Wasn't the district restructured a couple years ago? My guess is they designed it to have more dems.
Yes

[Bailey Guns]

Sticking to morals could lose the election if busses start rolling from Boulder. Though my wife doesn't seem to understand that.

If buses start rolling from liberal strongholds, it isn't gonna matter. Right, wrong or indifferent Republicans and/or conservatives generally won't behave that way. I see nothing wrong with a person maintaining their values and principles especially when it comes to potentially violating a law. Liberals might act that way and not care...most conservatives will care. That's the big difference between us and them.

It's also gonna be pretty hard to justify a bus-load of people from Boulder pulling up to a polling place claiming they're all gonna move to the district.

[hollohas]

So according to the El Paso County website, as of 9/3/2013, 21.9% of registered voters in the county are Dems and 41.6% R's. But in District 11 there are 33.6% dems according to the link above. That's a big difference.

[Dave]

If buses start rolling from liberal strongholds, it isn't gonna matter. Right, wrong or indifferent Republicans and/or conservatives generally won't behave that way. I see nothing wrong with a person maintaining their values and principles especially when it comes to potentially violating a law. Liberals might act that way and not care...most conservatives will care. That's the big difference between us and them.

It's also gonna be pretty hard to justify a bus-load of people from Boulder pulling up to a polling place claiming they're all gonna move to the district.
Take CU Boulder students and say they all intend to move to UCCS and use an apartment complex in SD 11 as their new address.

[Zundfolge]

Personally, I don't want to give them any ammunition to claim the election was stolen
It doesn't matter, if they lose they will always claim the election was stolen (if not by outright voter fraud, at least by the evil Koch bros and NRA "buying" the election).


How are there more registered Dems than Repubs there? Seems odd.
Senate District 11 was gerrymandered to collect all the Democrat strongholds in Colorado Springs into one "safe" district. (see the real rough map I tossed together)

http://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=33587&d=1378483470

[colo-pr]

Yeah, I verified my registration on the govotecolorado site and that's when my heart sunk ... I'm in SD9 (I guess the upside to that is I'm actually represented since Ken Lambert is a good guy).

thanks for the tip, im very concerned about what is my district but unfortunately say: STATE SENATE 9 [Bang]

[Gman]

Donors to the Dems in the recall;
http://gazette.com/interactive-map-who-donated-to-the-colorado-recall-election/article/1505839

Link was from this posting; http://www.ar-15.co/threads/107581-Getting-solar-at-the-house?p=1321997&viewfull=1#post1321997

The political machines in DC that have donated was interesting. I heard a lot about Bloomberg's $350K, but I didn't realize that Eli Broad of LA kicked in $250K.

[Sharpienads]

It doesn't matter, if they lose they will always claim the election was stolen (if not by outright voter fraud, at least by the evil Koch bros and NRA "buying" the election).


Senate District 11 was gerrymandered to collect all the Democrat strongholds in Colorado Springs into one "safe" district. (see the real rough map I tossed together)

http://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=33587&d=1378483470


Yep, that map just about sums it up.

[hatidua]

Donors to the Dems in the recall;
http://gazette.com/interactive-map-who-donated-to-the-colorado-recall-election/article/1505839.

$3.1M vs $266K hardly seems like an even match...

[KAPA]

I have noticed that Morse's twitter feed is basically dead and has stopped. Facebook meanwhile, keeps spewing his garbage. I don't know all the ins and outs of social media but from what I can tell, on Twitter you can't ban people from commenting on your posts whereas on facebook you can. I know I was banned from posting to his facebook for asking about the money he got from Bloomberg.

If nothing else, this is further proof that he and his kind do not want to listen to the people, they only want to preach to them.

[hatidua]

Take CU Boulder students and say they all intend to move to UCCS and use an apartment complex in SD 11 as their new address.

This early in the semester I'm pretty sure most CU students are more interested in which establishment has the cheapest beer and when the new iPhone is coming out. I can't see their priorities including anything 90 minutes away.

[KAPA]

This early in the semester I'm pretty sure most CU students are more interested in which establishment has the cheapest beer and when the new iPhone is coming out. I can't see their priorities including anything 90 minutes away.

I graduated from CU about a decade ago. You guys would be pleasantly surprised with the actual political makeup of the students up there. Sure you have your fair share of liberal minded folks up there, but it is no where near as bad as you think it is. Plenty of pro-gun folks up there that understand what the constitution means. Remember, most of those kids going to school up there are not from Boulder. Many are from the burbs and rural areas, and believe it or not, not all the out of state Cali kids are die hard liberals either.

If you really want to worry about where bus loads of gun grabbers would come from you should be looking at downtown Denver. Think of all the unemployed friends that Rhonda Fields and Evie Hudak have. Those are the types I would be worried about.

[Zundfolge]

Looks like the fix is in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZTTxqi2Rjk



Here's the Colorado Recall Transparency Project web site (with live feeds from the polling places)
http://revealingpolitics.com/corecall/

[lllRorlll]

I went to the LaQuinta inn here in pueblo.. they did great.. checked my ID twice against my voter card.. the second guy looked at my ID then straight at my face.. and back down at the ID. Hope others are doing that as well.-- but get this, the woman in the booth next to me looks over and says " does recall mean we take her back,....ooooor like keep her?" PROVING that her vote was not thought out in any way shape or form. gonna bet that vote was stamped with a donky.

[KAPA]

I went to the LaQuinta inn here in pueblo.. they did great.. checked my ID twice against my voter card.. the second guy looked at my ID then straight at my face.. and back down at the ID. Hope others are doing that as well.-- but get this, the woman in the booth next to me looks over and says " does recall mean we take her back,....ooooor like keep her?" PROVING that her vote was not thought out in any way shape or form. gonna bet that vote was stamped with a donky.


Thanks for voting! I hope you took a few of your neighbors along with you!

[davsel]

I graduated from CU about a decade ago. You guys would be pleasantly surprised with the actual political makeup of the students up there. Sure you have your fair share of liberal minded folks up there, but it is no where near as bad as you think it is. Plenty of pro-gun folks up there that understand what the constitution means. Remember, most of those kids going to school up there are not from Boulder. Many are from the burbs and rural areas, and believe it or not, not all the out of state Cali kids are die hard liberals either.

If you really want to worry about where bus loads of gun grabbers would come from you should be looking at downtown Denver. Think of all the unemployed friends that Rhonda Fields and Evie Hudak have. Those are the types I would be worried about.

The map is referring to CC, not CU.
Spoiled brat NPR supporters.

From: http://www.coloradocollege.edu/admission/tuition/

2013-14

Tuition $43,812
Student Activity Fee $410
Room Allowance $5,826 double room in residence hall
Board Allowance $4,486 meal plan C
Books & Supplies $1,244 estimate
Personal/Travel $1,622 non-Colorado residents
$1022 Colorado residents
Total cost $57,400 non-Colorado residents
$56,800 Colorado residents

[KAPA]

The map is referring to CC, not CU.
Spoiled brat NPR supporters.

From: http://www.coloradocollege.edu/admission/tuition/

2013-14

Tuition $43,812
Student Activity Fee $410
Room Allowance $5,826 double room in residence hall
Board Allowance $4,486 meal plan C
Books & Supplies $1,244 estimate
Personal/Travel $1,622 non-Colorado residents
$1022 Colorado residents
Total cost $57,400 non-Colorado residents
$56,800 Colorado residents

That is a problem but I was referring to the posters talking about buses coming from Boulder.

[th3w01f]

Someone needs to remind the CC students that Morse is also against amendment 64. That's probably more important to them anyway.

[Bailey Guns]

Someone needs to remind the CC students that Morse is also against amendment 64. That's probably more important to them anyway.

I'm hopeful that a college student would be smart enough to say, "Who cares if Morse is against it? It's the law, now." I know that's asking a lot of a college student today.

NOTE: Not taking sides...just saying the Amend 64 ship has sailed and it doesn't matter now if Morse is/was for/against it.

[davsel]

That is a problem but I was referring to the posters talking about buses coming from Boulder.

Apologies extended [Beer]

ETA: I know several pro-gun CU students/alumni, and a few CC wealthy anti-gunners

[th3w01f]

I'm hopeful that a college student would be smart enough to say, "Who cares if Morse is against it? It's the law, now." I know that's asking a lot of a college student today.

NOTE: Not taking sides...just saying the Amend 64 ship has sailed and it doesn't matter now if Morse is/was for/against it.

No problem at all but is there nothing Morse could do between now and the end of 2014 that could make access a little more difficult for the CC students? it seems that given his position he may hold some sway at City Council meetings.

[TEAMRICO]

Well guys.
i think it is time to move.
I am looking at a nice house.......smack dab in the middle of Morses district.
I intend to move there in the next few weeks.
Being over 18 and living here for more then 22 days I feel I should get involved with the voting process.
Lots of houses to rent or sell in this area, with closing and paperwork I sure hope nothing would go wrong that would prevent me from moving there soon.......after casting my LEGAL VOTE by Democratic standards. That may cause me to take longer to move in, if ever.
I think I will check out the polling sites Monday..............

[funkymonkey1111]

For anyone looking to help, Tancredo has a caravan of volunteers going down to CS today to work the phones, walk the precincts, etc. meeting at the Mimi's near Park Meadows at 9:00 today

[Dr_Scholl]

Republicans heavily outvoting Democrats in SD11. http://gazette.com/el-paso-county-clerk-urges-early-recall-voting-to-avoid-lines/article/1505915

[buffalobo]

Heard a report on radio about libby's crying foul that John Caldera(and others?) went down and voted today.

Can anybody expand on that?

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

[roberth]

Heard a report on radio about libby's crying foul that John Caldera(and others?) went down and voted today.

Can anybody expand on that?

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

Yes, I can expand on that.

The (R) isn't supposed to use laws written by the (D) for the benefit of the (R)...pure hypocrisy.

Hey liberals -- FUCK YOU you motherfuckers!!!

[hurley842002]

Yes, I can expand on that.

The (R) isn't supposed to use laws written by the (D) for the benefit of the (R)...pure hypocrisy.

Hey liberals -- FUCK YOU you motherfuckers!!!

Solid response!

[muddywings]

Heard a report on radio about libby's crying foul that John Caldera(and others?) went down and voted today.

Can anybody expand on that?

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

http://gazette.com/county-clerk-discounts-voter-fraud-allegations/article/1505965?custom_click=rss

[funkymonkey1111]

Caldera was at the El Paso county republican hq this AM

[Dr_Scholl]

Latest early voting results. Not looking good at all for Morse. http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/09/07/john-morse-recall-guns/100196/

[Aloha_Shooter]

Unfortunately, that's a drop in the bucket. I was told college-age kids have been spotted dropping off ballots by the dozens ... not sure how they're doing that unless the Dems grabbed a bunch of the "Emergency" ballots and filled them out en mass at CC or CU. You expect the most motivated voters to turn out early -- we need a ton of the unaffiliated non-Socialists to come out and vote. A percentage of the Dems voting will be voting to "correct their last mistake" but we really need to overwhelm him so they don't have any hope of using legal action to steal the election like Al Franken did.

Keep the pressure on ... anyone in SD11 who believes in the Constitution and freedom needs to come out and vote for the recall.

[Roger Ronas]

Doing my part on Monday at the PP Building dept on International Circle.

[hatidua]

Hey liberals -- FUCK YOU you motherfuckers!!!

-c'mon now, put some feeling into it, I have faith in you! [Beer]

[def90]

Is there any feel as to what people are voting? I honestly don't care who is elected even if it is another Democrat as long as Morse looses his job..

[Aloha_Shooter]

Doing my part on Monday at the PP Building dept on International Circle.

Heh, I just carpet-bombed yard signs on all approaches to that building. Enjoy!

[BPTactical]

Is there any feel as to what people are voting? I honestly don't care who is elected even if it is another Democrat as long as Morse looses his job..

The real key is in which way the Independents vote.

The "D's" need to lose. You don't think the D selected to replace him wasent chosen carefully by outside interests?

[Dr_Scholl]

Is there any feel as to what people are voting? I honestly don't care who is elected even if it is another Democrat as long as Morse looses his job..

Well, 41% of people who've voted so far have been Republicans even though SD11 is only 26% registered Republican. If numbers like that hold through election day, he's finished for sure.

[DocMedic]

Where in the Springs can I vote on the 10th? (Ft. Carson area)

[Roger Ronas]

See post number 263 on page 27. All times and locations posted.

Roger

[Roger Ronas]

Greetings from the Office of the El Paso County Clerk and Recorder.This email concerns the September 10, 2013, State Senate District 11 Recall Election. This Recall Election will only utilize Voter Service and Polling Centers (VSPCs). Mail ballots will NOT be automatically mailed to the voters of State Senate District 11.We will have seven Voter Service and Polling Center sites available for this Recall Election. Their locations and hours are as follows:Open Thursday, September 5th to Monday, September 9th from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (excluding Sunday, September 8th)andOpen Tuesday, September 10th from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Main
Citizens Service Center Centennial Hall
1675 West Garden of the Gods Road

Downtown – Lower Level
200 South Cascade
Suite 2202 Colorado Springs, CO 80903
Colorado Springs, CO 80907

North
NW Corner of Union and Research SE Corner of Powers Boulevard and Airport Road
8830 North Union Boulevard


Southeast Powers – Upper Level
5650 Industrial Place
Colorado Springs, CO 80920 Colorado Springs, CO 80916
Open Monday, September 9th from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.andOpen Tuesday, September 10th from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.Manitou Springs
City Administration Building
Memorial Hall
606 Manitou Avenue
Manitou Springs, CO 80829

Regional Building – Upper Level
Pikes Peak Regional Building Department
BOCC Hearing Room
2880 International Circle
Colorado Springs, CO 80910

Zalman Center at Harrison High School
2755 Janitell Road
Colorado Springs, CO 80906

[O2HeN2]

Is there any feel as to what people are voting? I honestly don't care who is elected even if it is another Democrat as long as Morse looses his job..
I'll tell you the day after tomorrow.

O2

[Aloha_Shooter]

Where in the Springs can I vote on the 10th? (Ft. Carson area)

Roger posted the locations for you but the most convenient to Fort Carson is probably the Zalman Center at Harrison High School. There's a turn off into the parking lot off of Circle but the gate is closed and they have a sign up saying "No Voting Access" there so you'll have to do this:

Take I-25 north to Circle, get off at Circle and head east. Take a right on Janitell (Goodwill center on your right hand side) and take that all the way down until it tees off ... turn right and you're on Janitell again heading into Harrison -- the Zalman center is on the north end of the school.

Make sure you are actually registered in SD11 before you go -- I don't think Ft Carson proper is in SD11.

[jerrymrc]

I don't think Ft Carson proper is in SD11. Must live on the other side of academy. Stratmoor hills, south or the Valley.

[def90]

Some voter turn out results..

TURNOUT SO FAR in the Morse Recall: 9,485
Republicans: 3,923 or 41.36%
Democrats: 3,081 or 32.48%
Unaffiliated: 2,351 or 24.7%
Other: 130 or 1.37%
(We can expect some Dems and Unaffiliateds to vote YES to recall)

VOTER REGISTRATION: 69,481
Unaffiliated: 26,725 or 37.81%
Democrats: 23,344 or 33.59%
Republicans: 18,174 or 26.15%
Libertarians: 716 or 1.03%
Green Party: 278 or 0.40%
American Constitution: 244 or 0.35%

Looks like only 3,900 of a possible 18,000 Republicans have turned out so far.. Apparently they aren't too upset with Morse?

[Zundfolge]

Looks like only 3,900 of a possible 18,000 Republicans have turned out so far.. Apparently they aren't too upset with Morse?

On the one hand that's pretty typical of Republican/conservative apathy here in Colorado (and the main reason this state is hurdling toward a California-like doom).

But on the other hand how many of those Republicans weren't in SD11 before the recent gerrymandering (I thought I was in SD11 and didn't realize I'd been gerrymandered out, so it's conceivable that there are many folk gerrymandered in that don't realize it).

[ChunkyMonkey]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/09/09/republicans-lead-in-el-paso-with-48-hours-left-but-liberal-activists-from-across-country-scramble-to-turn-out-the-liberal-vote/

[Brian]

Are these numbers as of Monday morning or...? Source?
Not doubting you, just curious. I've been trying to figure out where to get the most recent info, as it seems all over the board and mostly data from Friday that I've been able to find.



Some voter turn out results..

TURNOUT SO FAR in the Morse Recall: 9,485
Republicans: 3,923 or 41.36%
Democrats: 3,081 or 32.48%
Unaffiliated: 2,351 or 24.7%
Other: 130 or 1.37%
(We can expect some Dems and Unaffiliateds to vote YES to recall)

VOTER REGISTRATION: 69,481
Unaffiliated: 26,725 or 37.81%
Democrats: 23,344 or 33.59%
Republicans: 18,174 or 26.15%
Libertarians: 716 or 1.03%
Green Party: 278 or 0.40%
American Constitution: 244 or 0.35%

Looks like only 3,900 of a possible 18,000 Republicans have turned out so far.. Apparently they aren't too upset with Morse?

[Zundfolge]

The left ain't givin' up easy.

http://thecoloradoobserver.com/2013/09/final-push-in-morse-recall/

So the real reason Morse challenged the law in court was to delay the election until after CC students came back from summer break so he could ply them with "beef & buns" and get them all registered.

I'm sure they'll go after Jon Caldara with both barrels but these out of state students that are all of the sudden registered here (but will be re-registered in their home states before November) will be ignored.

[Rabid]

Are these numbers as of Monday morning or...? Source?
Not doubting you, just curious. I've been trying to figure out where to get the most recent info, as it seems all over the board and mostly data from Friday that I've been able to find.
The most resent i have see were from this article http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/9/miller-colorado-recall-election-call-arms-against-/

Early voting for the recall started on Thursday. Mr. Call told me on Sunday that returns in Mr. Morses’s district showed Republicans out performing in early voting. The Colorado Springs district is 34 percent Democrats, 26 percent and 40 percent unaffiliated. However, 4,160 Republicans had voted, compared to 3,400 Democrats.
Ms. Giron’s district is much more strongly Democratic (45 to 23 percent) and early voting showed 6,300 Democrats had turned out compared to 4,000 Republicans.

[def90]

Are these numbers as of Monday morning or...? Source?
Not doubting you, just curious. I've been trying to figure out where to get the most recent info, as it seems all over the board and mostly data from Friday that I've been able to find.

Was from the Recall Morse Facebook page so they are up to date numbers as of Monday morning before the polls re-open.

[Dr_Scholl]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/09/09/republicans-lead-in-el-paso-with-48-hours-left-but-liberal-activists-from-across-country-scramble-to-turn-out-the-liberal-vote/

Yeah, he's screwed.

[hatidua]

Yeah, he's screwed.

I hope. But I'm crossing my fingers nonetheless.

[Colorado_Outback]

Voted YES to recall today!

Thanks to all the members that donated their time to the recall effort.

[The Rat]

Any indication how the Girion side of the fight is going?

[Aloha_Shooter]

The Giron recall effort is fighting a tougher battle because their clerk-recorder is a known partisan Democrat who blatantly violated procedure during the last election and has done so this election as well. Having said that, I was told by someone far more connected than I am (which would be just about anybody in the state) that some of the anti-recall groups had shifted their attention toward defending Giron. I don't know if this is because the numbers are so bad for Morse that they view it as wasted effort or if they view Giron as being in unexpected danger.

Both efforts could use more people to watch polls, hold signs, etc. tomorrow.

[Dr_Scholl]

The Giron recall effort is fighting a tougher battle because their clerk-recorder is a known partisan Democrat who blatantly violated procedure during the last election and has done so this election as well. Having said that, I was told by someone far more connected than I am (which would be just about anybody in the state) that some of the anti-recall groups had shifted their attention toward defending Giron. I don't know if this is because the numbers are so bad for Morse that they view it as wasted effort or if they view Giron as being in unexpected danger.

Both efforts could use more people to watch polls, hold signs, etc. tomorrow.

I'm calling a split decision. Morse is defeated and Giron keeps her seat.

[def90]

This just posted over at Recall Morse.. Where are all the Reps and anti Morse voters????

The numbers are out and when looking at Republican vs Democrat votes, the difference is less than 900 with over 3k Unaffiliated votes. This election is still way up in the air.

Tomorrow will decide this election!!!

Historically, more Republicans vote early than Democrats. While we do not know how people are voting, more Republicans than Democrats signed our petitions. The percentage of advantage of Republicans over Democrats is decreasing daily. Around 1,000 emergency ballots are still outstanding which could easily tilt the election towards Morse.

Several of the previous elections have been lost because people stayed home on election day based upon early voting numbers. We need EVERY SINGLE YES VOTE in order to overcome not only Morse's supporters, but also the new election law potential fraud that could occur in this election regarding voter "intent." Morse seemed pretty confident on the MSNBC video and that was for a reason.

We need a large margin of YES voters in order to Recall Morse. Morse refused to listen to us before. Please make sure he can hear us at the ballot box.

We need LOTS of volunteers to help get out the voters tomorrow. PLEASE come help us if you can. And PLEASE go vote if you have not done so. Every single YES vote counts.

Vote YES to Recall Morse.

[hatidua]

I wish I was eligible to vote in this :(

[brutal]

I wish I was eligible to vote in this :(

While desirable in this recall effort, then I wouldn't be in Chris Holbert's or Ted Harvey's district!

[def90]

One question I have is.. Has the Republican party been active in this effort? Unless people turn out in droves tomorrow I don't think it looks good. If this fails all I can say is that the Reps don't give a shit and are complicit in keeping this guy in office. As far as general elections go voter apathy has gotten us to where we are.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

[Sharpienads]

I wish I was eligible to vote in this :(

Yup, me too.

[Aloha_Shooter]

One question I have is.. Has the Republican party been active in this effort? Unless people turn out in droves tomorrow I don't think it looks good. If this fails all I can say is that the Reps don't give a shit and are complicit in keeping this guy in office. As far as general elections go voter apathy has gotten us to where we are.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

Oh FFS, quit blaming the Republicans for everything. What are you doing to get the vote turned out?

[funkymonkey1111]

One question I have is.. Has the Republican party been active in this effort? Unless people turn out in droves tomorrow I don't think it looks good. If this fails all I can say is that the Reps don't give a shit and are complicit in keeping this guy in office. As far as general elections go voter apathy has gotten us to where we are.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2
yes, they have. If you had read the thread and gotten off your ass and gone and walked precincts Saturday, you could've seen it firsthand

[Bailey Guns]

As far as general elections go voter apathy has gotten us to where we are.

Not. Motivated democrats and a better organization have gotten us to where we're at. Republicans are too busy eating their own and wishing for the perfect, conservative candidate.

[sniper7]

I actually believe republicans and conservatives are busy working while the dems and liberals cash their government paychecks and come up with ways to get more tax dollars.

[Bailey Guns]

^^ Could be. But it's still a scheme that works to get dems elected. Promise everyone free shit.

[KAPA]

Today's the day! Take it back Springers and Puebloans!

[Brian]

If you haven't read it, this book is very interesting and really shows why the democrats have been so successfully lately. The BFDF guys and all the volunteers have done a great job with this recall, however the lack of partnership and unification from other groups are still obvious, and are the biggest obstacle to preventing the continued shifting of Colorado.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Blueprint-Democrats-Republicans-Everywhere/dp/1936218003/

Congrats to everyone who has donated time or money, or has been involved in leading this effort. Hopefully we get the result we all want, but either way, you have done an amazing job!

[Hummer]

Congrats to everyone who has donated time or money, or has been involved in leading this effort. Hopefully we get the result we all want, but either way, you have done an amazing job!

My sentiments, too. Anxiously awaiting the big news tomorrow that both Morse and Giron have been booted out....

[hatidua]

My sentiments, too. Anxiously awaiting the big news tomorrow that both Morse and Giron have been booted out....

-If they get recalled, the media will be quiet.
-If the recall fails, the media won't let the story go for a while.

[kidicarus13]

Ahhh, now I remember why I don't waste time reading political stories anymore...

http://www.npr.org/2013/09/10/220889445/colo-voters-to-decide-2-lawmakers-fate-in-recall-elections

Sen. Giron is adamant Colorado lawmakers did the right thing. "We're trying to keep the guns out of the hands of felons. That's what a background check for everyone does. And that police officers carry a 15 round mag. Obviously a reasonable amount," she says.

OBVIOUSLY a reasonable amount. Dumb B!

[KAPA]

My sentiments, too. Anxiously awaiting the big news tomorrow that both Morse and Giron have been booted out....

Should get the news by 7:15 tonight.

After these two are successful, who is next? I have crispy hundred dollar bill I am ready to throw at an organized Recall Rhonda campaign. You can bet Obama will throw tons of money at that recall election though.

[brutal]

Should get the news by 7:15 tonight.

After these two are successful, who is next? I have crispy hundred dollar bill I am ready to throw at an organized Recall Rhonda campaign. You can bet Obama will throw tons of money at that recall election though.

I believe recalls for Rap-sheet Rhonda and Jaba the Hudak have already fizzled. They both have a liberal stronghold in their districts.

[mountainjenny]

Not. Motivated democrats and a better organization have gotten us to where we're at. Republicans are too busy eating their own and wishing for the perfect, conservative candidate.


+1 !!!!

[KAPA]

I believe recalls for Rap-sheet Rhonda and Jaba the Hudak have already fizzled. They both have a liberal stronghold in their districts.

The Hudak one was put on hold. They never released the results but said they would put it on hold so that they could use those volunteers down south for the two we have going now. I guess at the time, running 3 at once was risking getting nothing done whereas focusing on the two were more likely to be a success. You are right about their districts being liberal strongholds though, especially for Rap Sheet. Our best bet there may be to find a good challenger.

[hatidua]

Should get the news by 7:15 tonight.

Will it really be known by then?

[Zundfolge]

Will it really be known by then?

If it's not real close then yes ... at least by the 10pm news.

If it's real close then expect it to take days/weeks to get an actual result (and maybe a few trips to court).

[merl]

Ahhh, now I remember why I don&#39;t waste time reading political stories anymore... http://www.npr.org/2013/09/10/220889445/colo-voters-to-decide-2-lawmakers-fate-in-recall-elections Sen. Giron is adamant Colorado lawmakers did the right thing. &quot;We&#39;re trying to keep the guns out of the hands of felons. That&#39;s what a background check for everyone does. And that police officers carry a 15 round mag. Obviously a reasonable amount,&quot; she says. OBVIOUSLY a reasonable amount. Dumb B!
yeah, I heard that and wondered what size mag they have for that AR in the trunk?

[Hummer]

Should get the news by 7:15 tonight. After these two are successful, who is next? I have crispy hundred dollar bill I am ready to throw at an organized Recall Rhonda campaign. You can bet Obama will throw tons of money at that recall election though. Recall elections are seldom well received by the voters even when those subject to them are unpopular. We are probably seeing the effect in the low GOP voter turnout in both these recalls. I think the recall movement on the anti-gun legislators has run it&#39;s course even if we see two wins. My money will be on removing hickenlooper in the next election should he think so highly of himself to run again. Our task will be to pressure the perenial losers from mucking up the chances for a GOP win. The libertarians, the America constitution party, and our now unelectable friend Tom can all lose the election for us again and put hickenlooper back in office for four more years.

[ThunderSquirrel]

You are right about their districts being liberal strongholds though, especially for Rap Sheet. Our best bet there may be to find a good challenger.

I am unfortunately in Rap Sheets District, not sure I could get on the ballot thought, [rules]

[KAPA]

yeah, I heard that and wondered what size mag they have for that AR in the trunk?

Wait so this stupid mag capacity rule is something LEOs have to abide by also? I thought they were exempt?

[KAPA]

I am unfortunately in Rap Sheets District, not sure I could get on the ballot thought, [rules]

Couch too comfortable? Why not?

[th3w01f]

I don't think Hudak's district is a liberal stronghold, if it is as far as voter registration goes she should be one of the easiest to unseat based on the last election.

Hudak (D) 35,664
Sias (R) 35,080
Sweeny (L) 5,104

[Circuits]

Wait so this stupid mag capacity rule is something LEOs have to abide by also? I thought they were exempt?
LE/Mil/Gov/FFL and magazine manufacturers are all exempt.

[ChunkyMonkey]

LE/Mil/Gov/FFL and magazine manufacturers are all exempt.

I might be out of the loop. What's stopping me from doing what the Californians are doing with their manufacturer loop hole.

Like magpul I can order parts from out of state and manufacture my own high cap mags. I can be either self proprietorship or LLC etc.

[KAPA]

I see Morse is back on Twitter talking about how he is working on his speech for tonight. Methinks he may want to work on a resume instead.

[th3w01f]

Just saw this; I don't think you can say what side he's on just by his actions but either way I wish the guy would the camera would have defended himself.


Colorado Recall Turns Violent: Citizen Journos Attacked

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/colorado-recall-turns-violent-citizen-journos-attacked/

[Jer]

I see Morse is back on Twitter talking about how he is working on his speech for tonight. Methinks he may want to work on a resume instead.
Probably time better spent since the #'s don't support it... that is unless the fix is in.

[Jer]

Just saw this; I don't think you can say what side he's on just by his actions but either way I wish the guy would the camera would have defended himself.



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/colorado-recall-turns-violent-citizen-journos-attacked/

For once I agree with the hipster doofus. That guy was out of line (assuming it was the whole story which it appears to be) regardless of who he just voted for. Those people filming were doing nothing wrong (also something I rarely get to say) and didn't deserve him doing anything other than questioning the reason for their presence at most.

[ThunderSquirrel]

Couch too comfortable? Why not?

I actually misread the regs, thought it was 35 to run, I guess its 25.
I am a little to extreme to get votes, though.

[def90]

Oh FFS, quit blaming the Republicans for everything. What are you doing to get the vote turned out?

Honestly I would have liked to go down there and sign wave or something but I have been traveling like crazy for work. In lieu I basically sent most of the money I was planning on using to buy an old motorcycle to rebuild this winter.

[Brian]

Looks like dems had a big push:

As of about 2:30 p.m. 5,980 Republicans had turned out to vote compared with 5,098 Democrats, Parsell said. Another 3,972 unaffiliated voters have participated in the election.

http://gazette.com/recall-democratic-and-republican-votes-nearly-even/article/1506068

[Dave]

Better hope the unaffiliated voters went for a yes vote.

[funkymonkey1111]

I would guess you could count on a very larger percentage of R's voting for the recall. Plus, there are plenty of D's voting for the recall, too--remember, there were more folks that signed the recall petition that voted for him in the last election. Just hope those U's are voting yes

[hatidua]

After all the letter writing, phone calling, donating, more letter writing in the early months of this year, only to see the new laws go into effect anyway, my optimism-o-meter isn't metering all that high right now. Hopeful, yes. But worried.

[BPTactical]

Interesting tidbit:


The Marijuana Policy Project, a grassroots organization supportive of marijuana legalization, has named Colorado Senate President John Morse as the worst state legislator with a stance on marijuana issues in the country.

Morse was included on the list primarily due to his role in attempting to repeal Amendment 64 in the last few days of the 2013 legislative session.

Next Tuesday, September 10th, voters will be given the opportunity to decide whether or not Morse and fellow anti-legalization legislator Senator Angel Giron will be allowed to maintain their office.

Sen. Giron, of Pueblo County, was responsible for a separate anti-legalization bill, which would had criminalized marijuana if voters do not pass new taxes to support regulation.



http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2013/09/03/nations-worst-pot-politican-john-morse-facing-recall/




Maybe this whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing has some merit.

[Circuits]

I might be out of the loop. What's stopping me from doing what the Californians are doing with their manufacturer loop hole.

Like magpul I can order parts from out of state and manufacture my own high cap mags. I can be either self proprietorship or LLC etc.
Nothing's stopping you at all - go for it if you wish.

You must only be making them for sale to one of the five exempted classes in CRS 18-12-302(3)(a), and if "made" here, they have to be marked in accordance with CRS 18-12-303.

[lllRorlll]

We have a airplane pulling a vote yes banner down here in podunk

[th3w01f]

Just heard some vote totals for Giron; 14260 (D), 10087 (R), 6658 (I). I heard it 2nd hand so I don't have any other details.

[Bowtie]

What time do the polls close? When do you expect the results?

[bryjcom]

Just heard some vote totals for Giron; 14260 (D), 10087 (R), 6658 (I). I heard it 2nd hand so I don't have any other details.

We still might pull it off for Giron. There will be a lot of democrats voting yes and I would think a majority of Independends as well.

[OneGuy67]

What time do the polls close? When do you expect the results?

7 PM.

[USMC88-93]

Interesting tidbit:


The Marijuana Policy Project, a grassroots organization supportive of marijuana legalization, has named Colorado Senate President John Morse as the worst state legislator with a stance on marijuana issues in the country.

Morse was included on the list primarily due to his role in attempting to repeal Amendment 64 in the last few days of the 2013 legislative session.

Next Tuesday, September 10th, voters will be given the opportunity to decide whether or not Morse and fellow anti-legalization legislator Senator Angel Giron will be allowed to maintain their office.

Sen. Giron, of Pueblo County, was responsible for a separate anti-legalization bill, which would had criminalized marijuana if voters do not pass new taxes to support regulation.



http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2013/09/03/nations-worst-pot-politican-john-morse-facing-recall/




Maybe this whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing has some merit.


Copying this elsewhere...

[Rabid]

We still might pull it off for Giron. There will be a lot of democrats voting yes and I would think a majority of Independends as well.
Very true, they are not like Denver/Boulder dem's but more blue dogish. We will know soon enough but i am not going to get my hopes up.

[Rabid]

This made me laugh a little.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbdrRVPDfK4

[Madeinhb]

This made me laugh a little.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbdrRVPDfK4

Funny how the kid knows more than the old guy

[KS63]

Old guy sounded embarrassed to say he's a Democrat. He should be.

[BPTactical]

Old guy sounded embarrassed to say he's a Democrat. He should be.

Yup.

I must say one thing. After going through the whole gun bill debacle personally after its outcome I was for the first time actually ashamed of my native state.

This kindles a little spark of pride...

[Rabid]

Times up let the ballot counting begin!

[hatidua]

What is the most up-to-date website for tracking the vote totals (I'm one of those no-tv sorts...)?

[Bowtie]

Peublo Gazzette results page

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2013/by_county/CO_Page_0910.html?SITE=COPUCELN&SECTION=POLITICS (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2013/by_county/CO_Page_0910.html?SITE=COPUCELN&SECTION=POLITICS)

El paso County clerks page

http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html (http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html)

[hatidua]

Peublo Gazzette results page

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2013/by_county/CO_Page_0910.html?SITE=COPUCELN&SECTION=POLITICS (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2013/by_county/CO_Page_0910.html?SITE=COPUCELN&SECTION=POLITICS)

El paso County clerks page

http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html (http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html)

-thank you.

[Bailey Guns]

The suspense is killing me. No results on either site yet.

[Bowtie]

Pueblo county has a web page

http://pueblo.org/government/online-services

But I cant get the "recall elections results" page to load.

I dont know if these will be the most accurate but its what ive found so far[Beer]

[th3w01f]

EPC Clerk & Recorder
@ClerkEPC
From the El Paso County Clerk:


We are having some technical difficulties. Please stand by for results, they are on their way.
Retweeted By EliStokols

[Bailey Guns]

IMPATIENT [Rant1]

[Bailey Guns]

YES = 6538
NO = 5877

52/47 percent YES

From El Paso County Clerk...unofficial and it doesn't say if that's all precincts reporting or partial.

[Rabid]

where is that info from

[OctopusHighball]

Recall of John Morse










VSPC
Mail
Prov
Total



Total Votes

12415
522

12937





















YES

6538
213
0
6751
52.18%


NO

5877
309
0
6186
47.82%











Successor Candidates










VSPC
Mail
Prov
Total



Total Votes

7510
269
0
7779





















Bernie Herpin
REP
6388
213
0
6601
84.86%


Write-in Votes

1122
56
0
1178
15.14%



Don't know if this is final or just a few precincts reporting?

EDIT: Seems to discard my html fail - go here instead: http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html

[Bailey Guns]

EPC Clerk's Office...Unofficial so far.

[muddywings]

el paso site is up and running: http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html

post fail...see above

[jhood001]

Lookin good!

[Bailey Guns]

Still haven't seen any results from Pueblo.

[DeusExMachina]

Please be right.

[Bailey Guns]

The Pueblo Chieftan election results page has a "Vote NO - Stand with Angela" ad at the top of the page.

[trlcavscout]

Fingers still crossed!!!

[OctopusHighball]

turns out the above numbers do NOT represent ppl who voted today in person, per channel 2 news

[Bowtie]

Unofficial results "Yes" 6751, "No" 6186 on Morse

http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html (http://www.elpasoelections.com/2013Recall/results.html)


14/31 precincts

[Bailey Guns]

turns out the above numbers do NOT represent ppl who voted today in person, per channel 2 news

I thought that sounded awfully close to the results of how many dems/reps voted so far.

[Rabid]

FIFY
[hahhah-no]

[roberth]

(47 members and 27 guests) in here

[hatidua]

(47 members and 27 guests) in here

I frequently view while not logged in, I suspect others occasionally do as well.

[trlcavscout]

turns out the above numbers do NOT represent ppl who voted today in person, per channel 2 news

How many dems from other places rode the bus Blomberg paid for to vote illegally?

[Bowtie]

http://live.denverpost.com/Event/Colorado_Recall_Election_2013

says 4k votes still to count in ElPaso

[Rabid]

Just saw this

Total votes cast is about 17.2K. Early results account for about 12.9K. 52 percent "yes" to recall. 47 percent "no."

[TAR31]

They still have to count the 4000 votes bloomberg sent in.