Recall John Morse

[muddywings]

From the emailing on for the campaign to recall CO State Senator John Morse:

Fellow Recall Morse Volunteers,
Great news! On Monday (April Fool’s Day – but this is no joke), we submitted the petition to recall Senator John Morse. On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 we received our certificate of sufficiency from the office of the Colorado Secretary of State. That means we have a maximum of 60 days, or NLT June 1, 2013 to turn in 7,178 valid signatures of registered voters from Colorado Senate District 11.

Let’s send the message to Morse that he cannot ignore his constituents, change senate rules to disallow citizen input, push gun control laws criminalizing normal citizens while not holding the violent criminals accountable, push Bloomberg’s social agenda while ignoring our dismal economy, or try to turn Colorado into New York. Help us obtain the signatures necessary to recall Morse. If you have not already done so, please send when and where you are available to remorseco@bfdf.org (http://remorseco@bfdf.org/). The time for action is now!

Feel free to post this to all of your social media sites (see the share links at the bottom of this email) and send to all of your friends via email. This is information we want everyone to know. Spread the news that representatives who do not represent the will of the people will be removed by the people.J


El Paso Freedom Defense Committee

*break break*

Here is a useful link to see what district you are in: http://www.coloradogopwomen.org/maps/2013-senate-districts. I'm actually in Dist 9 (wasn't that a cool movie!) but my in-laws are in 11 and I volunteered to help canvas for signatures.

[OneGuy67]

From Mike Rosen's Facebook page, election results:

STATE SENATE - DISTRICT 11
Owen Hill (REP) 13,526 47.11%
John P. Morse (DEM) 13,866 48.29%
Randall (LIB) 1,320 4.6%

[jhirsh5280]

Just email a name? Will there be physical signature collectors? I don't live in 11 but I know people who do.

[muddywings]

Just email a name? Will there be physical signature collectors? I don't live in 11 but I know people who do.

There will be physical signature collectors going door to door. The rules are very strict on this. I just signed up to be a foot soldier so I don't know that much yet (as I said before, I'm not in the district). They are going to have to start moving very fast very soon. I'll try to update this thread as I learn more and get the procedures on when/where/how to gather the signatures.
I'm sure one of the easiest ways is through word of mouth from friend to friend so if you have people who live in that district, point them to this thread so they will be ready to sign the petition.

[Aloha_Shooter]

We are anticipating signature collections starting next week. We have 60 days from the time the Secretary of State approves the petitions. We are looking for volunteers to walk the districts to collect signatures as well as man desk(s) at one or more cooperating stores. If you are willing to volunteer, please send an e-mail to remorseco@bfdf.org and let us know contact info (name, phone number, closest major intersection so we can plan most convenient areas), areas you'd like to work in (petitioning, research, phone tree, etc.) and availability.

As muddywings said, the rules are pretty strict -- we want as few petitions thrown out as possible (goal is zero of course but you know Morse and his supporters will do as much as they can to get as many petitions thrown out as possible). Petitions are going to be serial numbered and registered to specific petitioners, petitions will be notarized at drop-off points and then secured. ONLY District 11 voters are eligible to sign the petitions but ANYONE can help!

[Aloha_Shooter]

Update!

Fellow Recall Morse Volunteers,
Great news! On Monday (April Fool’s Day – but this is no joke), we submitted the petition to recall Senator John Morse. On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 we received our certificate of sufficiency from the office of the Colorado Secretary of State. That means we have a maximum of 60 days, or NLT June 1, 2013 to turn in 7,178 valid signatures of registered voters from Colorado Senate District 11.

Let’s send the message to Morse that he cannot ignore his constituents, change senate rules to disallow citizen input, push gun control laws criminalizing normal citizens while not holding the violent criminals accountable, push Bloomberg’s social agenda while ignoring our dismal economy, or try to turn Colorado into New York. Help us obtain the signatures necessary to recall Morse. If you have not already done so, please send when and where you are available to remorseco@bfdf.org (http://www.ar-15.co/remorseco@bfdf.org). The time for action is now!

Feel free to post this to all of your social media sites (see the share links at the bottom of this email) and send to all of your friends via email. This is information we want everyone to know. Spread the news that representatives who do not represent the will of the people will be removed by the people.J

[IceAxe]

I singed up to collect signatures too! Perhaps I will see you out there.

[Zundfolge]

I have been told that there will be Recall petition tables at Specialty Sports and The Shootin' Den this Saturday ... can someone confirm that (not that I need an excuse to go to Specialty or The Shootin' Den :p ).

[spqrzilla]

Got to really make the petition drive happen, because if we don't follow through - the Democrats will be emboldened.

[IceAxe]

It will happen, it is encouraging to see the effort growing so fast with so much support.

[Skullworks]

I live in dist 2 but I work in 11. I'll be looking into the requirements and the rules.

[XJ]

I live in dist 2 but I work in 11. I'll be looking into the requirements and the rules.


If appropriate for your workplace, talk to everyone there who might live in the district!

[jerrymrc]

Need to find one of these guys. I can bring 6-8 good signatures.

[IceAxe]

Need to find one of these guys. I can bring 6-8 good signatures.

I pick up my petitions later today..

[IceAxe]

Need to find one of these guys. I can bring 6-8 good signatures.

Ok I have my petitions and would be happy to meet sometime for signatures. Here is a link people can use to determine or verify their voter registration (eligibility). http://app.expressemailmarketing.com/get.link?linkid=5024910&subscriberid=418300955&campaignid=1386208&linkurl=https://www.sos.state.co.us/voter-classic/secuVoterSearch.do?transactionType%3dvoterSearch

[buckshotbarlow]

Update!

Fellow Recall Morse Volunteers,
Great news! On Monday (April Fool’s Day – but this is no joke), we submitted the petition to recall Senator John Morse. On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 we received our certificate of sufficiency from the office of the Colorado Secretary of State. That means we have a maximum of 60 days, or NLT June 1, 2013 to turn in 7,178 valid signatures of registered voters from Colorado Senate District 11.

Let’s send the message to Morse that he cannot ignore his constituents, change senate rules to disallow citizen input, push gun control laws criminalizing normal citizens while not holding the violent criminals accountable, push Bloomberg’s social agenda while ignoring our dismal economy, or try to turn Colorado into New York. Help us obtain the signatures necessary to recall Morse. If you have not already done so, please send when and where you are available to remorseco@bfdf.org (http://www.ar-15.co/remorseco@bfdf.org). The time for action is now!

Feel free to post this to all of your social media sites (see the share links at the bottom of this email) and send to all of your friends via email. This is information we want everyone to know. Spread the news that representatives who do not represent the will of the people will be removed by the people.J

GOOD LUCK, and this is frigg'n awesome!!!

[muddywings]

I pick up my petitions later today..


Got mine two. Signed up my father-in-law to walk too even though we aren't in district 11. Will start walking next Saturday.
PM me (I'm sure the same goes for IceAxe) if u need more details or have anybody u know in the district.

[jerrymrc]

Ok I have my petitions and would be happy to meet sometime for signatures. Here is a link people can use to determine or verify their voter registration (eligibility). http://app.expressemailmarketing.com/get.link?linkid=5024910&subscriberid=418300955&campaignid=1386208&linkurl=https://www.sos.state.co.us/voter-classic/secuVoterSearch.do?transactionType%3dvoterSearch

Since I had all the family over and we went over there mail in ballots together and since we all live in the same hood I think we are good. Stratmoor hills is filled with "R"'s South and the valley has many as well but the approach needs to be set. In other words we need to let them know about it. Many like myself have signs up.

I have an idea. Since there are only a few ways in or out of the 3 hoods a few signs need to be put up. Let me see what I can do.

[ntgtyper]

i would be in for a sign

[Aloha_Shooter]

ntgtyger, e-mail remorseco@bfdf.org and tell them you'll put a yard sign up.

Anyone looking to sign the petition, we are getting walkers out to the precincts but if you don't want to wait and are sure you are registered to vote in Senate District 11, then you can sign petitions at the Shooting Den, Colorado Specialty Sports or Whistling Pines. I believe there are staff or volunteers at each location who can get your signature. Make sure you sign it how you are registered to vote. For instance, if you are registered as John Q. Public, Jr., that's how you should sign it -- not as Jack Public or John Public or even John Q. Public.

If you have any questions about how or where you are registered, you should be able to check at http://www.govotecolorado.com/ (http://www.govotecolorado.com).

If you just moved into District 11, you need to make sure your address and voter registration is updated with the Secretary of State or your signature will not count and can be counted against us by invalidating the petition you signed.

PM me if you have any other questions.

[Hound]

I just sent off the post above to friends in that area. Good luck. Man was he a smug a$$ in the hearings!! I would love to see him get kicked out.

[nogaroheli]

Four friends and I were out walking areas around Chelton and Airport collecting signatures on Saturday, we had pretty good results. If anyone would like to sign a petition let me know, I'd be happy to meet up.

[muddywings]

BTT

I was out walking Manitou Springs. Had decent success. Was surprised that a few Rs told me that they agreed with the legislation. I just said, 'ok, thanks' and walked away. Also had a few older people say that they hoped the recall will work but don't sign petitions. I pushed a little bit with the obvious logic but older people are stuck in their ways.
Again, if you live in CO Senate D-11, or know of someone who does, have them get in touch.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Please be aware, you can't sign the petition unless you're registered to vote in Senate District 11 (as opposed to School District 11)! We can use more volunteers and they could be from Timbuktu but only signatures from District 11 count and any others can invalidate the petition they're on.

[Aloha_Shooter]

We have about five weeks left to collect signatures. We could use more people to assist with the collections. We know some people don't like doing anything door-to-door so are looking at setting up some "event" signings. Please let us know if you are interested in helping out with any of that. Website is http://coloradorecall.com, e-mail is remorseco@bfdf.org, FB is Recall Senator John Morse, and Twitter is @ReMorseCO.

This is a non-partisan issue and anyone of any party should want to get rid of someone who:

- refuses to listen to constituents or read your e-mails
- changed rules to disallow citizen input on pending legislation
- promised to focus on jobs and the local economy but instead pushed gun control, civil unions, sex education, illegal alien tuition -- just about anything BUT jobs or the local economy
- wants to blame gun owners for the actions of violent criminals
- passed bills that force companies to leave the state and cost Colorado's economy millions of dollars in economic activity and hundreds of jobs

[Shiro]

Hear hear, recall as many of these pundits as possible

[sniper7]

How many more votes are needed?

[Birddog1911]

Since I'm Distric 10, I know that I can't vote for the recall. Is there any reason that I couldn't volunteer to collect signatures?

[Aloha_Shooter]

Only registered voters in Senate District 11 can sign the petitions but anyone can volunteer to collect signatures or donate funds. Check the website, Rob just announced a signature collection event this weekend.

[muddywings]

Since I'm Distric 10, I know that I can't vote for the recall. Is there any reason that I couldn't volunteer to collect signatures?

I live up near Research and Powers (so I think I'm in district 9) but I've been walking the District 11 neighborhoods the past two weekends. PM me or Aloha and we'll point you in the right direction.

[Birddog1911]

Sounds good; I'll have to see what my schedule will allow.

[muddywings]

BTT (it's getting dirty...via Morse peeps)

Morse recall effort prompts warning from pro-Morse group


http://www.krdo.com/news/morse-recall-effort-sparks-controversy/-/417220/20013062/-/1tc1vf/-/index.html

I was supposed to be TDY this week but that got CNX so I'll be out volunteering tmrw. Tell a friend to tell a friend to tell...

https://www.facebook.com/ColoradoAccountability

[ghettoblaster]

BTT (it's getting dirty...via Morse peeps)

Morse recall effort prompts warning from pro-Morse group


http://www.krdo.com/news/morse-recall-effort-sparks-controversy/-/417220/20013062/-/1tc1vf/-/index.html

I was supposed to be TDY this week but that got CNX so I'll be out volunteering tmrw. Tell a friend to tell a friend to tell...

https://www.facebook.com/ColoradoAccountability



Really hope you guys pull this off. Just wish I was in a district where I could sign as well!

[Bailey Guns]

Morse is such a disgrace. "OMG! The people collecting signatures didn't have background checks!"

[Hound]

Morse is such a disgrace. "OMG! The people collecting signatures didn't have background checks!"

+1

[Aloha_Shooter]

If reports on the robocalls are correct then apparently I am either a felon or sex offender. I'll be sure to let my security manager know they must have missed something in my last background check; "A Whole Lot of People for John Morse" say so.

[Zundfolge]

If reports on the robocalls are correct then apparently I am either a felon or sex offender.

Doesn't that fall under the umbrella of Slander?

[mtnrider]

I just heard a advertisement on the radio that is sponsored by John Morse and is linked to this web site ..http://coloradorecallwatch.com/

The ad is just ridiculous. It says there are criminals going door to door trying to get your signatures. Don't sign! Don't let them in! They will rape you and kill you is the basic message of the ad.

What a jack ass!

.

[muddywings]

at the bottom of here: http://www.ar-15.co/threads/97449-Recall-John-Morse

[Cylinder Head]

I just heard a advertisement on the radio that is sponsored by John Morse and is linked to this web site ..http://coloradorecallwatch.com/

The ad is just ridiculous. It says there are criminals going door to door trying to get your signatures. Don't sign! Don't let them in! They will rape you and kill you is the basic message of the ad.

What a jack ass!

.

I think it's time as respectable citizens that we all report some sightings. You know, for the children. I did, from Mr. Holden Mcgroin.

[Dave]

I posted a bigfoot sighting, I thought it was suspicious he had a pro Morse petition.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Doesn't that fall under the umbrella of Slander?

I don't believe so because he doesn't name me specifically. I will bet the Dems ran his ad past lawyers to make sure they are technically within the law no matter how misleading or demeaning they are.

[mikedubs]

I can't believe someone like this was once a sworn officer of the law...

[sabot_round]

I can't believe someone like this was once a sworn officer of the law...

I can believe it...they're liberals!!!

[muddywings]

Facebook page for those who support John Morse.

https://www.facebook.com/AWholeLotOfPeopleForJohnMorse?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/AWholeLotOfPeopleForJohnMorse?fref=ts)

I guess they are upset that there is outside money coming in to support his recall. I'm curious if they were upset about East Coast money coming in to support anti-2A legislation? I also see they point out that they believe the paid petition collectors may have criminal records. I wonder if they are upset that the main sponsor of most of the anti-2A legislation has a criminal record?

Got the standard monday morning blues at work so i'll have to ponder my responses through the day and post some up later.

[davsel]

Facebook page for those who support John Morse.

https://www.facebook.com/AWholeLotOfPeopleForJohnMorse?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/AWholeLotOfPeopleForJohnMorse?fref=ts).

Tell me that's not a dude in drag in the picture on this link^^^

Looks like a formidable force we're up against here folks.

LMAO

ETA:
I see they changed photos on their front page. Here's the one I was referring to:


https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/935705_507520822636800_2110385502_n.jpg

Angry bunch eh?

[Aloha_Shooter]

muddywings, of course they're not upset. Logical inconsistencies don't even occur to these people. Just shrug it off and let's buckle down toward getting more signatures for his recall than votes he got in 2010. The infantile prattle on his FB page is just funny.

[muddywings]

muddywings, of course they're not upset. Logical inconsistencies don't even occur to these people. Just shrug it off and let's buckle down toward getting more signatures for his recall than votes he got in 2010. The infantile prattle on his FB page is just funny.

Unfortunately, i gotta work for a living so since I'm stuck in front of my desk and can't get out to gather petitions, I'll probably make fun of them on their FB as time permits.

Here is something my wife just sent me:

http://c.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/red-pill-blue-bill/2013/may/5/recalls-colorado-anti-second-amendment-senators-he/

[BuckeyeNative]

Does anyone have information on how the recall effort is progressing or if this information is being shared?

[jerrymrc]

I will still say one thing about all this. If we get enough to force a recall there is that one person that he would have no chance against. And that is Terry Maketa. Just have to convince him to run. I think the irony would make the rest of the state take notice. [panic]

[Hound]

When I spoke during his "Responsibility" bill hearing I refused to shake his hand, you should have seen his reaction. It was worth just that. I think what we are seeing with the web site and calling them criminals is the same thing. That site is a good thing, it means he is afraid. It means his false sense that we all agree with him is crumbling. To quote StarShip Troopers just before they shove a hot poker up its ass "It's Afraid!!!" And the all cheered!!

[buckshotbarlow]

When I spoke during his "Responsibility" bill hearing I refused to shake his hand, you should have seen his reaction. It was worth just that. I think what we are seeing with the web site and calling them criminals is the same thing. That site is a good thing, it means he is afraid. It means his false sense that we all agree with him is crumbling. To quote StarShip Troopers just before they shove a hot poker up its ass "It's Afraid!!!" And the all cheered!!

Hmm, why didn't you put the electric buzzer in you hand?

[Rabid]

A friend of mine mentioned it looked like you all were having a good day with a lot of people signing at Memorial Park. Keep up the good work.

[polski]

Heard on radio the other day regarding the Democrat's plans to beat the Morse recall. If it looks like there are enough signatures for the recall, Morse is going to resign. Great news right? Not really. This leaves Hickenlooper the ability to appoint a replacement and not lose the senate seat to the opposing party. Who would he appoint you say? The one and only Michael Merrifield. Ain't politics grand.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I'm sure they also plan to flood the recall elections with same-day registrations. Whatever happens, forcing Morse out of office would be a moral victory and demonstrate there's a price for their perfidy. Forcing Morse out would make the other politicians think twice about the legislation they are proposing and voting on. What we really need to do is get on the horn and ask everyone we know in the recall districts to get out there and sign the recall petitions. Today is the first day of the rest of your life -- go out and get something done!

[DavieD55]

If he resigns the new appointment would be voted in via a Democratic vacancy committee. Lickenhooper wouldn't make the appointment.

[DavieD55]

If he resigns the new appointment would be voted in via a Democratic vacancy committee. Lickenhooper wouldn't make the appointment.

He know doubt would have his tentacles in it.

[buckshotbarlow]

Well, it is a small victory, but the war continues.

[Hound]

It sounds like a great victory. I also think he knows he is licked. He was on CNN this week and you could hear it. As was stated earlier; it shows we are pissed about what they did. 2014 will be a bad year for anybody that voted for those bills.

[Rabid]

Heard on radio the other day regarding the Democrat's plans to beat the Morse recall. If it looks like there are enough signatures for the recall, Morse is going to resign. Great news right? Not really. This leaves Hickenlooper the ability to appoint a replacement and not lose the senate seat to the opposing party. Who would he appoint you say? The one and only Michael Merrifield. Ain't politics grand.
Do the same rules apply if he resigns during a recall election?

[DavieD55]

Do the same rules apply if he resigns during a recall election?



Colo. Const. Art. XXI, Section 3
COLORADO REVISED STATUTES
*** This document reflects changes current through all laws passed
at the Second Regular and First Extraordinary Sessions
of the Sixty-Eighth General Assembly of the State of Colorado 2012
and Constitutional and Statutory amendments approved at the General Election on November 6, 2012 ***
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF COLORADO
ARTICLE XXI RECALL FROM OFFICE
Colo. Const. Art. XXI, Section 3 (2012)
Section 3. Resignation - filling vacancy



If such officer shall offer his resignation, it shall be accepted, and the vacancy caused by such resignation, or from any other cause, shall be filled as provided by law; but the person appointed to fill such vacancy shall hold his office only until the person elected at the recall election shall qualify. If such officer shall not resign within five days after the sufficiency of the recall petition shall have been sustained, the governor shall make or cause to be made publication of notice for the holding of such election, and officers charged by law with duties concerning elections shall make all arrangements for such election, and the same shall be conducted, returned and the result thereof declared in all respects as in the case of general elections.

On the official ballot at such elections shall be printed in not more than 200 words, the reasons set forth in the petition for demanding his recall, and in not more than three hundred words there shall also be printed, if desired by him, the officer's justification of his course in office. If such officer shall resign at any time subsequent to the filing thereof, the recall election shall be called notwithstanding such resignation.

There shall be printed on the official ballot, as to every officer whose recall is to be voted on, the words, "Shall (name of person against whom the recall petition is filed) be recalled from the office of (title of the office)?" Following such question shall be the words, "Yes" and "No", on separate lines, with a blank space at the right of each, in which the voter shall indicate, by marking a cross (X), his vote for or against such recall.

On such ballots, under each question, there shall also be printed the names of those persons who have been nominated as candidates to succeed the person sought to be recalled; but no vote cast shall be counted for any candidate for such office, unless the voter also voted for or against the recall of such person sought to be recalled from said office. The name of the person against whom the petition is filed shall not appear on the ballot as a candidate for the office.

If a majority of those voting on said question of the recall of any incumbent from office shall vote "no", said incumbent shall continue in said office; if a majority shall vote "yes", such incumbent shall thereupon be deemed removed from such office upon the qualification of his successor.

If the vote had in such recall elections shall recall the officer then the candidate who has received the highest number of votes for the office thereby vacated shall be declared elected for the remainder of the term, and a certificate of election shall be forthwith issued to him by the canvassing board. In case the person who received the highest number of votes shall fail to qualify within fifteen days after the issuance of a certificate of election, the office shall be deemed vacant, and shall be filled according to law.

Candidates for the office may be nominated by petition, as now provided by law, which petition shall be filed in the office in which petitions for nomination to office are required by law to be filed not less than fifteen days before such recall election.

History Source: Initiated 12: Entire article added, effective January 22, 1913, seeL.13, p. 674.



Recalled officer may not succeed himself. Home-rule cities may provide for an election system in which candidates may be elected by a plurality vote. They may not, however, make it possible to frustrate the will of the majority by allowing a recalled officer to succeed himself. Bernzen v. City of Boulder, 186 Colo. 81, 525 P.2d 416 (1974).

[Great-Kazoo]

It sounds like a great victory. I also think he knows he is licked. He was on CNN this week and you could hear it. As was stated earlier; it shows we are pissed about what they did. 2014 will be a bad year for anybody that voted for those bills.

Providing a suitable opposing candidate runs.

[Hound]

Providing a suitable opposing candidate runs.

Very true but at that point there is nobody to blame but ourselves.

[muddywings]

Well, it is a small victory, but the war continues.

I will also be happy to just scuttle his political career.

[Rabid]

Colo. Const. Art. XXI, Section 3
COLORADO REVISED STATUTES
*** This document reflects changes current through all laws passed
at the Second Regular and First Extraordinary Sessions
of the Sixty-Eighth General Assembly of the State of Colorado 2012
and Constitutional and Statutory amendments approved at the General Election on November 6, 2012 ***
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF COLORADO
ARTICLE XXI RECALL FROM OFFICE
Colo. Const. Art. XXI, Section 3 (2012)
Section 3. Resignation - filling vacancy



If such officer shall offer his resignation, it shall be accepted, and the vacancy caused by such resignation, or from any other cause, shall be filled as provided by law; but the person appointed to fill such vacancy shall hold his office only until the person elected at the recall election shall qualify. If such officer shall not resign within five days after the sufficiency of the recall petition shall have been sustained, the governor shall make or cause to be made publication of notice for the holding of such election, and officers charged by law with duties concerning elections shall make all arrangements for such election, and the same shall be conducted, returned and the result thereof declared in all respects as in the case of general elections.

So it will still go to a recall election if he resigns after the SOS counts the signatures right? Is there a special election held if he resigns before the SOS gives the recall a green light?


I will also be happy to just scuttle his political career.
That is what i was thinking when everybody said he was term limited.

[Dave]

So now can we trust the Sec of State to count the recall correctly or will they DQ enough of the petitions to cause it to fail?

[Zundfolge]

I will also be happy to just scuttle his political career.

I won't truly be happy unless the emotional toll taken on herr Morse from being recalled is so great that it causes him to take his own life. With dull spoon.

But I'm an asshole.

[Aloha_Shooter]

That is what i was thinking when everybody said he was term limited.

Here's the problem with that thinking. If he leaves office because of term limits, he has a viable political future (read: can do more damage to us in the future) for other state offices -- which I'm sure was his general plan. He's damaged goods if he's recalled and is unlikely to run for future elective office until he rehabilitates his reputation. Recalling his butt will remove a venomous regressive Stalinist snake from state government for years and cause the other regressive Stalinists to think twice. Making even ONE of these statists pay a price for disenfranchising Colorado voters and imposing regressive anti-gun legislation of dubious constitutionality is WIN.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I won't truly be happy unless the emotional toll taken on herr Morse from being recalled is so great that it causes him to take his own life. With dull spoon.

But I'm an asshole.

No, no, no. We don't want anyone to be able to accuse us of personally violent motives or intent. Far far better than he suffers emotional and political pain and continues to suffer it for a long time to come:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_keWS1i3RA

[losttrail]

I won't truly be happy unless the emotional toll taken on herr Morse from being recalled is so great that it causes him to take his own life. With dull spoon.

But I'm an asshole.

I would be much happier if he were to experience an unnaturally long life of being sodomized multiple times daily by donkeys.

[Rucker61]

I would be much happier if he were to experience an unnaturally long life of being sodomized multiple times daily by donkeys.

Great. Now we're going to get trolled by PETA.

[brutal]

I would be much happier if he were to experience an unnaturally long life of being sodomized multiple times daily by donkeys.

Not fair to the Donkeys because I believe he would enjoy it too much. Isn't he a polesmoker anyway?

[Dave]

Found this on KDVR's site. Apparently people are paying for signatures in the Morse recall petition. [Bang]

http://kdvr.com/2013/05/21/first-recall-effort-fails-against-democratic-state-rep-mike-mclachlan/

[mikedubs]

Found this on KDVR's site. Apparently people are paying for signatures in the Morse recall petition. [Bang]

http://kdvr.com/2013/05/21/first-recall-effort-fails-against-democratic-state-rep-mike-mclachlan/


....according to KDVR, that is.

ETA: To clarify, KDVR is filled with witless fuckwads who run around screaming about the "next big thing that could kill you", "could be in your neighborhood",
or is just plain scary looking...all of it an utter waste of time.

[kidicarus13]

Apparently people are paying for signatures in the Morse recall petition. [Bang]



It worked for BHO soooo what's the problem again?

[muddywings]

Found this on KDVR's site. Apparently people are paying for signatures in the Morse recall petition. [Bang]

http://kdvr.com/2013/05/21/first-recall-effort-fails-against-democratic-state-rep-mike-mclachlan/

Dave, let me introduce you to poor journalism. Poor journalsim, meet Dave.
As far as I know, I haven't seen any money change hands. What I think they failed to grasp...well, first the english language, then, the actuals facts...which are a company that pays petition gatherers has been hired by BFDF. So someone is paid to work, to gather signatures. Nobody is signing a petition for money.
Granted I'm just a low level petition gather myself but nobody handed me a suitcase of $20s and said, "hey, if they aren't sure, pay them to get that signature."

[Aloha_Shooter]

{sigh} I was hoping Dave was being sarcastic or ironic when he posted that. As muddywings said, no one is paying for signatures. That's probably some of Morse's disinformation at work. There are paid circulators in addition to the volunteers because unlike OWS, most of us actually work.

[Dave]

{sigh} I was hoping Dave was being sarcastic or ironic when he posted that. As muddywings said, no one is paying for signatures. That's probably some of Morse's disinformation at work. There are paid circulators in addition to the volunteers because unlike OWS, most of us actually work.
It was meant as sarcasm, I didn't think there was money changing hands for petition signatures, but the head on the wall was because there are people who will read that and think it is true because they believe KDVR to be true journalism. Which I believe real journalism died shortly after the 24/7 cable news shows and internet news/blogs came on the scene.

[Zundfolge]

real journalism died shortly after the 24/7 cable news shows and internet news/blogs came on the scene.

Real journalism was killed by the activist journalism that "ended the Vietnam war" and "forced an evil Republican president to resign", so it's been dead a lot longer than we realize.

[muddywings]

It was meant as sarcasm, I didn't think there was money changing hands for petition signatures, but the head on the wall was because there are people who will read that and think it is true because they believe KDVR to be true journalism. Which I believe real journalism died shortly after the 24/7 cable news shows and internet news/blogs came on the scene.

my bad...my internet sarcasm detector is broke....

[Aloha_Shooter]

Good weekend at Territory Days ... "A Whole Lot of People for John Morse" (typically a maximum of 4-5 at any given time) showed up sporadically to try to harass us or tell people not to sign the petition. Only thought in my mind from it was, "they're so cute when they're like that." One more week to get our signatures together and send Denver a huge message -- if you know ANYone in Senate District 11 who hasn't signed the petition but is concerned about responsive legislation, the state economy or Second Amendment rights, tell them to e-mail us (remorseco@bfdf.org) so we can get their signature before Friday!

http://www.coloradorecall.com (http://www.coloradorecall.com)

[Sharpienads]

I saw some guys carrying the "Recall Morse" signs at Territory Days. I wish I lived in D11 so that I could sign the petition.

[mountainjenny]

I was volunteering for the Evie Hudak recall effort and it has been suspended so those volunteers could help out with the Morse recall. I couldn't make it that far to volunteer, but thanks to all who are helping. I'm really hoping the Morse recall is successful. He's a [pileoshit]

[Aloha_Shooter]

Yes, we got some great help from the Hudak recall folks. I'm very sorry Evil escaped but thanks to all who are helping eject Morse. Once again, you do not need to be in SD11 to help or donate. We're going to need help raising awareness before the election and monitoring polls to watch out for voter fraud.

[3beansalad]

Collected a couple more signatures today, I really hope we are successful. I had to take my time with this couple I've known for years but I was able to get them on board finally!

[Aloha_Shooter]

3beansalad, we need to get those signatures in this week. Please take your petition to one of the Bank of Colorado branches (downtown or Platte & Murray) by noon Friday. PM me if you want another blank -- we have plenty of blanks but want to get in anything that's already signed.

[Hound]

Guys/Gals.. Just want to say thanks for all the work. Getting him out will send the right message to get 2014 started off right!

[USAFGopherMike]

How likely is this to happen?

[Hummer]

This AP news story dated May 28 is showing up on news sites around the state, link:

Gun control supporters facing recall bids in Colo. (http://www.cortezjournal.com/article/20130528/APP/1305280566/Gun-control-supporters-facing-recall-bids-in-Colo)


Being an Associated Press story the author writes from the Democrat perspective.

[Bitter Clinger]

I just read 7200 are needed by Monday

[IceAxe]

I turned in the rest of my petitions with signatures yesterday. I wasn't able to go out collecting today due to obligations and still managed to get another two signatures ....yes!
I think all this face time with voters is going to have a good impact, not just with the recall, but in future elections as more attention is given to anti 2nd amendment agendas of the Left.

[Aloha_Shooter]

We need a minimum of 7200 valid signatures to force the recall election for Morse but most petitions have about 30-50% invalid signatures so we really wanted 1100+ signatures (more to make sure Bloomberg's lawyers don't tie us up). All signed petitions will be turned in Monday. Rob has done an outstanding job quarterbacking this operation.

[kidicarus13]

We need a minimum of 7200 valid signatures to force the recall election for Morse but most petitions have about 30-50% invalid signatures

Why are you expecting that many to be invalid?

[Great-Kazoo]

Why are you expecting that many to be invalid?

Incorrect or false address and names, out of district and duplicate signatures.

[IceAxe]

I know every signature I collected is valid, verifyed through the SoS website or their names were on my walking papers.

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[Great-Kazoo]

I know every signature I collected is valid, verifyed through the SoS website or their names were on my walking papers.

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As most if not all are. However for such a hot political button the recall is, have no doubt the dems / Bloomberg and known ASSociates will do everything in their power legally or not to declare the signatures Invalid.

[sroz]

As most if not all are. However for such a hot political button the recall is, have no doubt the dems / Bloomberg and known ASSociates will do everything in their power legally or not to declare the signatures Invalid.

You got that one right, Jim! All part of the game.

[zteknik]

What realy gets me is how that asshat Bloomberg could have any say in the matter since he's not even an elected official in this state!!!
Bastige needs to keep his business in his own cesspool!!!

[jerrymrc]

What realy gets me is how that asshat Bloomberg could have any say in the matter since he's not even an elected official in this state!!!
Bastige needs to keep his business in his own cesspool!!!

He is following you. You were too young to remember the RFID implanted....... He plans to hunt all of you down that left.[panic][LOL]

[zteknik]

He is following you. You were too young to remember the RFID implanted....... He plans to hunt all of you down that left.[panic][LOL]
Now that would explain the urges that I had for decaf latte's and veggies...[facepalm]

[Aloha_Shooter]

Why are you expecting that many to be invalid?

Lot of reasons -- some people sign with their nicknames instead of their legal names, some people have moved but forgot to register at the new address, some people were so eager to sign they literally grabbed the petitions out of circulators' hands. Some people were positive they were in the district and didn't want to wait for me to look them up before signing ... and my QC check afterwards found they were in SCHOOL District 11 but not SENATE District 11.

I should have clarified that we were advised by the Secretary of State's office that most petitions (in general) have about 30-50% invalids. ReMorseCO should be releasing the total number of signatures tomorrow after they are handed in to the Secretary of State's office -- check the website or Facebook page.

[kidkl]

Awesome, work guys. ReMorseCO on twitter stating that they have well over 16,000 signatures (needed 7,178).

[kidicarus13]

Awesome, work guys. ReMorseCO on twitter stating that they have well over 16,000 signatures (needed 7,178).

I hope that is true.

[HoneyBadger]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/06/03/game-on-morse-recall-organizers-turn-in-over-16000-signatures-to-remove-senate-president/

GAME ON: Morse Recall Organizers Turn In Over 16,000 Signatures To Remove Senate President (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/06/03/game-on-morse-recall-organizers-turn-in-over-16000-signatures-to-remove-senate-president/)

Published on June 3, 2013 (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/06/03/game-on-morse-recall-organizers-turn-in-over-16000-signatures-to-remove-senate-president/) by ColoradoPeakPolitics (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/author/coloradopeakpolitics/)


Once derided as a rag tag effort destined to fail, the organizers of the recall campaign of Senate President John Morse proved their naysayers wrong and turned in over double the minimum number of signatures required this morning. To initiate a recall election of Morse, 7,178 signatures were required. Organizers easily topped that this morning. AsKDVR‘s Eli Stokols scooped (http://kdvr.com/2013/06/03/group-to-recall-senate-president-over-gun-votes-turns-in-13k-signatures/):


DENVER — The group working to recall Colorado Senate President John Morse over the passage of Democratic gun control legislation earlier this year turned in more than 16,000 signatures at the Secretary of State’s office Monday.
That’s more than double the number of valid signatures — 7,178, a percentage of voter turnout in 2010 when Morse was elected — that will be needed to force a recall election in El Paso County later this year.
Morse’s backers will have a couple weeks to review the signatures and to contest those that they believe may be invalid; then the Secretary of State’s office will go to work reviewing all the signatures and determining how many valid ones were received.

The exact number of signatures, per the recall organizers, is 16,046. Per their press release:
The results of this historic recall effort were achieved despite the efforts of NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg, Morse’s robocalls to voters, false attacks on signature collectors’ reputations and Morse’s political machine headed by Ed Hall, Chairman of the Denver Democrats and filing agent for Morse’s antirecall group “A Whole Lot of People for John Morse.” Hall is known for his Democrat Party biography referring to Colorado Springs as a “…right-wing, religious whack-job stronghold.”*

What makes this especially damaging for Morse — who pushed a gun control bill dubbed “insane…absolutely nuts (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/02/11/democrats-on-morses-gun-plan-thats-crazy-thats-absolutely-nuts/)” by Democratic Rep. Ed Vigil — is that he only received 13,866 votes (http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/Results/2010/general/ColoradoReport.html) in his last election in 2010.
We think it’s safe to say the anger and frustration among his constituents is palpable.
Whether Morse will resign his seat to avoid the recall is still a possibility, despite Morse’s protestations that he will stay in to the “bitter end.”
A recall election could be a tough challenge for Morse as it will be a special election, whose electorate is likely to be less Democratic than one turning out in a presidential year or even a regularly scheduled November election.
Should Morse lose the recall campaign it will send a shot across the bow of Democrats and those in favor of gun control across the country. We’re betting Mayor Bloomberg is whipping out his checkbook as we speak.
UPDATE: The Associated Press (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/recall-looms-gun-control-backer-colo-19314536#.UazjIZVa6G9) adds some historical context to this monumental achievement:
Gun-rights activists have turned in petition signatures to set up the first recall of a state lawmaker in Colorado history.




I added the red above because I think this is a HUGE win for us!

[ChunkyMonkey]

Great news.. time to up your participation. I am not in his district, but will donate again and again til this scumbag is crushed!

[mikedubs]

Fuck yeah! I was hoping for something like 10k or so signatures.

Now, what will the Dems stoop to in order to remove as many signatures as possible?

[Zundfolge]

First Lautenberg assumes room temperature, now this.

I'm in danger of being in an optimist mood today [panic]

[rondog]

I think that since he's the President of the entire State Senate, then people all over the entire state should have been eligible to sign.

[kidicarus13]

First Lautenberg assumes room temperature

That's funny. And for all of you who think it's disrespectful to speak about the dead... I don't care.

[Rabid]

That's great news! Thank you to everyone that made this happen.

[rtr]

Can anyone outline what happens now? Secretary of State has 15 days to check the signatures, assuming they are enough valid ones then what?

[rtr]

From the BFDF website

Overview of petition process to recall Senator Morse
1.Submit petition to Colorado Secretary of State’s office and receive approval.
2.Within 60 days of approval (June 3 since June 1 is a Saturday), submit at least 7,178 valid signatures from registered voters in Colorado Senate District 11.
3.Any legal resident of the United States over the age of 18 is allowed to obtain signatures on petitions. But you must be a registered voter in Senate District 11 to sign the petition.
4.Once we turn in all of the signed petitions, the Secretary of State’s office has 30 days to review and verify the signatures on the petitions.
5.Upon verification of the signatures, an election will be called within 30 days. On the ballot will be a question (wording determined by the state) asking whether to recall Morse or not. On the same ballot are any candidates for the District 11 senate seat. If more than 50% of the voters in the special election vote to recall Morse, then whichever candidate receives the most votes will take his place as Senator.
6.We are a non-partisan group that does not endorse any political party or candidate. We are only involved in the recall portion of the election. We are not submitting or endorsing any candidates. We leave that up to the various political parties.


So what happens if Morse resigns before the signatures are checked? What if he resigns after they are verified?

[newracer]

If he resigns the D party can fill his position.

[Hummer]

Great news, looks like the CO Springs workers really got the job done! Tell me, when would a recall election likely occur? It's tough to get voters to the polls for special elections.

[Aloha_Shooter]

From the BFDF website

Overview of petition process to recall Senator Morse
1.Submit petition to Colorado Secretary of State’s office and receive approval.
2.Within 60 days of approval (June 3 since June 1 is a Saturday), submit at least 7,178 valid signatures from registered voters in Colorado Senate District 11.
3.Any legal resident of the United States over the age of 18 is allowed to obtain signatures on petitions. But you must be a registered voter in Senate District 11 to sign the petition.
4.Once we turn in all of the signed petitions, the Secretary of State’s office has 30 days to review and verify the signatures on the petitions.
5.Upon verification of the signatures, an election will be called within 30 days. On the ballot will be a question (wording determined by the state) asking whether to recall Morse or not. On the same ballot are any candidates for the District 11 senate seat. If more than 50% of the voters in the special election vote to recall Morse, then whichever candidate receives the most votes will take his place as Senator.
6.We are a non-partisan group that does not endorse any political party or candidate. We are only involved in the recall portion of the election. We are not submitting or endorsing any candidates. We leave that up to the various political parties.


So what happens if Morse resigns before the signatures are checked? What if he resigns after they are verified?

As I understand it, in between steps 4 and 5 above, Morse has 15 days to review and challenge the petitions then 5 days to resign. After those 20 days, the state must convene a special election within 30 days unless there is a regularly scheduled election within 90 days of certification.

After step 5, if 50% + 1 of voters vote to recall Morse, he is out immediately and the winner of the plurality (i.e. largest number of votes even if not over 50%) assumes office.

If Morse resigns within his 5 day window, the Democrats can convene a special committee to replace him and no special election is required. They will of course try to portray that as a futile effort but the point is that a regressive Stalinist dictator will have been shown the door.

[Zundfolge]

Ok, once Mr Morse is recalled, can we then vote to force him to move to Boulder? :D

[HoneyBadger]

Ok, once Mr Morse is recalled, can we then vote to force him to move to Boulder? :D
I vote for North Korea. They have lots of gun control there.

[TAR31]

Thank you to all of you that put in the time to get this done.

[halletts]

My thanks go out to everyone involved in this as well. It is the top story on Fox News this morning. Morse claims he will not resign. From the article...

Morse tells KDVR he is going to fight the recall effort.
“We’ll go through these signatures with a fine-toothed comb,” Morse told the station. “And we’ll file some protests with the Secretary of State’s office because we know a lot of these signatures were gathered based on misinformation and lies.”
He also insisted he will not resign his seat to avoid a recall election.
“This is a hill worth dying on,” Morse said. “This is a fight worth having; it’s a fight we’ve already had on the floor of the Senate; it’s a fight worth winning.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/04/recall-looms-for-colorado-lawmaker-who-supported-gun-control-bill/#ixzz2VFdekZx8

[longbow]

Yes, THANK YOU to all that worked so hard on this......you guys kicked ass!

[Hummer]

....the point is that a regressive Stalinist dictator will have been shown the door.

Dang, you're good. ha ha!

Thanks for the reply.

[Zundfolge]

It's tough to get voters to the polls for special elections.

That actually works to our advantage because its tough to get low information voters to the polls on special elections ... but the highly motivated show up in droves.

Also I think this one will probably be by mail only.


...the point is that a regressive Stalinist dictator will have been shown the door.
Too bad he and his ilk won't be shown to an Esso station like another famous dictator.

[Hummer]

That actually works to our advantage because its tough to get low information voters to the polls on special elections ... but the highly motivated show up in droves.

Also I think this one will probably be by mail only.

Good point, lets hope it works. Keeping the issue active in the news and on the editorial pages will be key.

Ousting the president of the State Senate would be a fantastic prelude to the 2014 elections.

[whitbaby]

Yes, THANK YOU to all that worked so hard on this......you guys kicked ass!

Absolutely... BZ guys!

[dirtrulz]

I would be really surprised if it actually came to an election. He will step down and the dems will put someone just like him in his place. They will not likely risk losing the seat by letting it go to an election.

[DHC]

My thanks go out to everyone involved in this as well. It is the top story on Fox News this morning. Morse claims he will not resign. From the article...

Morse tells KDVR he is going to fight the recall effort.
“We’ll go through these signatures with a fine-toothed comb,” Morse told the station. “And we’ll file some protests with the Secretary of State’s office because we know a lot of these signatures were gathered based on misinformation and lies.”
He also insisted he will not resign his seat to avoid a recall election.
“This is a hill worth dying on,” Morse said. “This is a fight worth having; it’s a fight we’ve already had on the floor of the Senate; it’s a fight worth winning.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/04/recall-looms-for-colorado-lawmaker-who-supported-gun-control-bill/#ixzz2VFdekZx8

While it is very commonplace, it just rankles the sh!t out of me when politicians resort to pithy platitudes like this one. First, the asswipe is not going to "die" by fighting this recall vote. Next, the image that idiom conjures is one of battle-weary soldiers carrying GUNS - the very focus of his political folly. And then the fact he is trying to appear courageous and stalwart on a virtuous issue - when it is now abundantly clear he is none of that. His position and subsequent actions were borne of sheer individual arrogance rather than support for his constituents.

Kudos to everyone involved in this recall process. It is great to expose these arrogant pricks for the assholes they are.

[Hummer]

While it is very commonplace, it just rankles the sh!t out of me when politicians resort to pithy platitudes like this one. First, the asswipe is not going to "die" by fighting this recall vote. Next, the image that idiom conjures is one of battle-weary soldiers carrying GUNS - the very focus of his political folly. And then the fact he is trying to appear courageous and stalwart on a virtuous issue - when it is now abundantly clear he is none of that. His position and subsequent actions were borne of sheer individual arrogance rather than support for his constituents.
That's an excellent start for a letter to the editor right there....

[Great-Kazoo]

I would be really surprised if it actually came to an election. He will step down and the dems will put someone just like him in his place. They will not likely risk losing the seat by letting it go to an election.

Morse will never resign. MAIG and other "outside influences" will keep him propped up till 2014. The only plus Morse has going is he is not being supported by any outside special interest groups like the NRA;)

[Aloha_Shooter]

Remember, it's not over until it's over. This week is the final push for Pueblo to gather signatures to recall Angela Giron. Everyone that can should volunteer to help them this weekend the way the Hudak volunteers helped us during Territory Days.

Over the next 45 days, we need to keep up the "Recall Morse" chant and talk to voters from SD11 to make sure they vote and vote correctly. The special election likely won't take place until the end of August or beginning of September -- we need to make sure we have voters registered and ready to vote as well as poll watchers to make sure we don't have any hanky-panky from same-day voter registrations. You don't have to be in SD11 to be a poll watcher -- e-mail ReMorseCO to volunteer!

[Zundfolge]

I would be really surprised if it actually came to an election. He will step down and the dems will put someone just like him in his place. They will not likely risk losing the seat by letting it go to an election.

You grossly discount the hubris that dominates Mr. Morse's personality.

He is a god among men that deserves to be our overlord (at least in his own twisted mind).

[SamuraiCO]

“This is a hill worth dying on,” Morse said.

Just don't quit before we finish the job of your removal.

Great job all I hope this continues into our next state elections and take back the governor and houses. COGOP you listening? Stick to conservative pro business issues and you'll win the state back.

[losttrail]

When driving to work this morning and heard that more than twice the required signatures were submitted for Morse's recall, I started smiling so big my eye were squinting.

This tool should be in prison. In Siberia.

[avandelay]

When driving to work this morning and heard that more than twice the required signatures were submitted for Morse's recall, I started smiling so big my eye were squinting.

This tool should be in prison. In Siberia.

what should make you feel even better is that more people signed the recall petition than voted for him in the election.

John Morse (D) 13,866

[blacklabel]

what should make you feel even better is that more people signed the recall petition than voted for him in the election.

John Morse (D) 13,866

That just makes me frustrated that people don't exercise their rights and vote.

[KAPA]

If the Dems were smart, they would just have him resign and Hick would just appoint some other Liberal that is smart enough to keep their mouths shut for a while and cruise under the radar. They could just spout out some drivel about being pro gun and pro 2A and then throw stipulations all over it with bans on everything from bullets to triggers.

I love what is happening here but I am afraid that in the end, of all those people that signed, maybe half if we are lucky will actually get out and check their mail to vote.

If nothing else though, this sends a great message. I mean getting one guy out isn't really that big of a deal, but if it happens the message that it sends across the nation is what is important!

[m4bangr]

If nothing else though, this sends a great message. I mean getting one guy out isn't really that big of a deal, but if it happens the message that it sends across the nation is what is important!

ABSOLUTELY!!

[Hummer]

Staff editorial in the Grand Junction Daily Sentinel:

Morse recall effort decidedly off target (http://www.gjsentinel.com/opinion/articles/morse-recall-effort-decidedly-off-target)


By The Daily Sentinel (http://www.gjsentinel.com/S=06a5ce3150a3c40eed2f54a7a68ad801b451ecca/staff/detail/84/)
Tuesday, June 4, 2013

Some gun-rights advocates were almost giddy with their announcement Monday they had gathered enough signatures to begin the recall process against Colorado Sen. President John Morse.

They were also a bit premature in declaring the recall effort a success, since the signatures they gathered still must be verified. And then there is that little matter of an actual recall election to determine whether Morse remains in office.
It’s clear there will be plenty of money from pro-gun groups such as the NRA to help in the effort to unseat Morse, if the recall election proceeds.

Democratic groups appear equally eager to make the fight over Morse a national referendum on gun control. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s group Mayors Against Illegal Guns and other national organizations are already raising money to campaign on Morse’s behalf.

All this for a battle over someone who can serve only one more year in the Legislature even if he is not recalled. Morse will be term-limited at the end of 2014.

But one important issue ignored by both sides in this dispute is whether recall is an appropriate remedy for the wrongs that Morse’s critics think he has committed. We don’t believe it is.

The Daily Sentinel’s position has long been that recall is a tool designed to remove from office those elected officials who have committed malfeasance or gross neglect of their duties while in office. It is not something that should be used to reverse election outcomes or to punish elected officials for political disagreements.

Elections have consequences, and the 2012 election in Colorado gave Democrats a majority in both houses of the state Legislature, and therefore the votes they needed to pass much of the gun legislation they sought.

That said, we certainly disagreed with Morse and his fellow Democrats regarding some gun legislation this year. In particular, we think a bill introduced by Morse, which would have held gun makers and gun sellers legally liable for any crimes committed by guns they distributed, was patently unconstitutional. Fortunately, Morse could not muster enough votes to push it.

The two big gun measures approved by the Legislature — requiring background checks for all gun sales in the state and banning ammunition magazines of larger than 15 rounds — will have little impact on gun violence and are of debatable constitutionality.

A group of 52 county sheriffs in Colorado, including Mesa County Sheriff Stan Hilkey, believes the new laws are unconstitutional and has filed a lawsuit to get them overturned. The group is also seeking an injunction to prevent the laws from being enforced until their constitutionality is determined by the courts.
That legal action is entirely appropriate. Each of the county sheriffs have sworn oaths to uphold the constitutions of the United States and of this state. If they believe new laws are unconstitutional, they have an obligation to obtain a judicial ruling regarding the laws’ status.

Taking the issue to court demonstrates more fidelity to our judicial system than refusing to enforce the laws in question, as some sheriffs were threatening to do earlier this year.

The question of the constitutionality of the new Colorado laws will no doubt be raised during the recall campaign against Morse, if the secretary of state’s office verifies enough signatures to force a recall election. Some of his opponents will likely accuse Morse of violating his oath of office by supporting gun-control measures.

But it’s clear that Morse hasn’t committed any crime, and he is guilty of neither malfeasance nor serious neglect. Rather, he is being attacked because his political views on guns are much different than those of his opponents.

So, get ready for the gunfight at the Colorado Corral. The rhetorical bullets are sure to start flying.

[kidicarus13]

All this for a battle over someone who can serve only one more year in the Legislature even if he is not recalled. Morse will be term-limited at the end of 2014.

No, all this to send a clear message to other anti-2A legislatures to THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE because it may have lasting effects.

[TFOGGER]

The Daily Sentinel’s position has long been that recall is a tool designed to remove from office those elected officials who have committed malfeasance or gross neglect of their duties while in office. It is not something that should be used to reverse election outcomes or to punish elected officials for political disagreements.

I'd say manipulating the testimonial process and blatantly disregarding the vast majority of you constituents would qualify...

[davsel]

With same day voter registration and no ID required, I'd bet the recall election will make an excellent trial run of democratic voter fraud. Win or lose, they will be better prepared for the 2014 elections.

US elections are no longer valid. If 2012 did not convince you, 2014 may.

[Hummer]

"The Daily Sentinel’s position has long been that recall is a tool designed to remove from office those elected officials who have committed malfeasance or gross neglect of their duties while in office. It is not something that should be used to reverse election outcomes or to punish elected officials for political disagreements."


I'd say manipulating the testimonial process and blatantly disregarding the vast majority of you constituents would qualify...

Exactly. This is where the Sentinel's editorial thinking is "decidedly off target". Is it not malfeasance to promote unconstitutional laws that are ineffective at solving the purported purpose of preventing violent crimes by the mentally ill? And, isn't it malfeasance to pass legislation which abrogates the rights of lawful citizens and which places them at greater danger and in legal jeopardy? It is entirely proper to remove politicians who exhibit gross neglect in their duties to the law and the electorate.

[zulu01]

Peak Politics is reporting the Secretary of State has verified sufficient signatures for a recall.

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/06/18/gauntlet-secretary-of-states-office-certifies-morse-petition-signatures-for-recall/

Edit: Denver Post has the story as well.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23486124/organizers-submit-sufficient-signatures-recall-sen-john-morse?source=rss

[ChunkyMonkey]

He'll resign for the Dems to keep the seat.

[zulu01]

Perhaps, but I still see that as a win for our side.

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[Dave]

Damn, 6000 signatures taken off by Sec of State. Kind of reduces hopes for Giron's recall.

[Rabid]

Damn, 6000 signatures taken off by Sec of State. Kind of reduces hopes for Giron's recall.
There is only one district in Pueblo vs 3 in the springs so that helps. Not holding my breath but we will know on the 25th.

[Aloha_Shooter]

He'll resign for the Dems to keep the seat.

I'm sure Merrifield would like that and I'd still count it as a win but I think he's arrogant enough to go to election. The only way I see him resigning after all his blather on the airwaves is if Bloomberg creates a high paying position for him at Illegal Mayors Against Guns and basically bribes him to leave. For someone who has essentially quit (or been forced to leave) at everything he's ever done as an adult, he's got an ego the size of the Hindenburg.

About that Hindenburg? We just lit the torch of liberty and freedom ... [AR15]

[Great-Kazoo]

LOOK WHO REARED THEIR HEAD IN PUBLIC

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/styles/prosilver-neighbors/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?p=3054747&sid=52c6eab976f70586f51a4fe9bbf28080#p3054747)by nynco (http://neighbors.denverpost.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=165942&sid=52c6eab976f70586f51a4fe9bbf28080) on Today, 2:58 pm #3054747 (http://neighbors.denverpost.com/&miniquote)

I am a Democratic voter who will now vote GOP in all state races until all these insane gun laws are overturned. I am not alone. Step down now Morse. Your assault on the 2nd Amendment put a shame on this state.

[DHCO]

Enough votes submitted. Morse has 15 days to challenge.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23486124/organizers-submit-sufficient-signatures-recall-sen-john-morse

[spqrzilla]

There is a claim that the recall petition itself was fatally defective for failing to include all the statutory language.

[O2HeN2]

If this gets thrown out over wording, the lawyer that drew up the document should return every red cent he collected from the recall Morse campaign if he has any sense of honor.

"Lawyer", "Honor", Yhea, I know, I know...

O2

[Yota]

If this gets thrown out over wording, the lawyer that drew up the document should return every red cent he collected from the recall Morse campaign if he has any sense of honor.

"Lawyer", "Honor", Yhea, I know, I know...

O2

Sounds like there could be a serious challenge on the technicality [Bang] What a freaking wasted opportunity if that happens. Didn't the State/Gessler approve the language before it went out?

[jerrymrc]

They have a new tactic gang. The Morse camp is calling all the "D"'s that signed the petition claiming that this petition was driven by outside interests and money back east and many were "tricked" into signing it but that it was not to late to have your name taken off the petition.

The call was local and the wife signed it and is a registered "D". They called looking for her and at first the guy said he would call back but I got him to say his BS when I said that she just got back from the dentist and I had signed it as well.

After his spew he asked if I would be willing to take my name off and that it was real easy to do. I told him not a chance that we would not change our minds about Bloomburg's lapdog and that Morse needed to rot in hell for not listening to his constituents.

So just a heads up to those in the district that if there is a "D" in the house that signed it your phone will ring.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Morse is grasping at straws. If you know anyone in Senate District 11 of any political persuasion, just quote Maggie Thatcher to them: now is not the time to go wobbly.

[BPTactical]

Grasping at straws. The petitions were approved prior to going out for signature by Gesslers office. The text of them passed muster.
Morse is hosed and he knows it, he and his "Handlers" are going to try every petty trick they can to save his arse.
Hopefully every thing they dream up backfires on him.


Of course the only way ANY of the Dbags will really understand how irritated their constituents are is when they are physically drug out of office by their ankles.


Long overdue

[d_striker]

What is this that I'm hearing about Morse having the option to resign, thus nullifying the recall? It seems like a lot of money and effort wasted if he steps down and Hickenlooper appoints some other lib.

[jerrymrc]

What is this that I'm hearing about Morse having the option to resign, thus nullifying the recall? It seems like a lot of money and effort wasted if he steps down and Hickenlooper appoints some other lib.

Remember when he said there was not that many people mad at him in the district? I think the man truly believes this is all just a mistake even though he only won by just over 300 votes. His ego will not let him resign even with 3000+ extra signatures on the recall.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Morse has 15 days to challenge signatures certified by the Secretary of State. He has 5 additional days to announce his resignation in which case the Democrats can appoint a replacement to avoid an election. After those 20 days (now 18?), there WILL be an election even if he decides to try to resign.

A resignation would still be a win because there would be one less regressive Stalinist in office in Denver and any replacement will have been shown the demonstrable impact of ignoring his or her constituents to vote for an extremist agenda.

[BPTactical]

Morse has 15 days to challenge signatures certified by the Secretary of State. He has 5 additional days to announce his resignation in which case the Democrats can appoint a replacement to avoid an election. After those 20 days (now 18?), there WILL be an election even if he decides to try to resign.

A resignation would still be a win because there would be one less regressive Stalinist in office in Denver and any replacement will have been shown the demonstrable impact of ignoring his or her constituents to vote for an extremist agenda.


The D that has been speculated as a replacement for Morse is a former Bloomer staffer.
We can always go from the pan to the fire.

[jhood001]

The D that has been speculated as a replacement for Morse is a former Bloomer staffer.
We can always go from the pan to the fire.


I don't care who they replace him with. They could pull a weekend at Bernie's and put Stalin's filthy corpse in the position.

Success in recalling Morse to me is less about improving our legislature (because a few recalls aren't going to do much) and more about sending a message. A message that tells our representatives that they are to answer to us and not outside interests or their own personal whims. And I truly believe that this recall will be fought tooth and nail because the Anti-2As won't want any representatives second guessing their instructions and promises... Nation-wide.

If this recall plants even a second of doubt into any of our representatives heads when they're deliberating, it will all be worth it. Regardless of whatever fuck-wit they replace Morse with.

[hurley842002]

I don't care who they replace him with. They could pull a weekend at Bernie's and put Stalin's filthy corpse in the position.

Success in recalling Morse to me is less about improving our legislature (because a few recalls aren't going to do much) and more about sending a message. A message that tells our representatives that they are to answer to us and not outside interests or their own personal whims. And I truly believe that this recall will be fought tooth and nail because the Anti-2As won't want any representatives second guessing their instructions and promises... Nation-wide.

If this recall plants even a second of doubt into any of our representatives heads when they're deliberating, it will all be worth it. Regardless of whatever fuck-wit they replace Morse with.

This!

[mountainjenny]

I don't care who they replace him with. They could pull a weekend at Bernie's and put Stalin's filthy corpse in the position.

Success in recalling Morse to me is less about improving our legislature (because a few recalls aren't going to do much) and more about sending a message. A message that tells our representatives that they are to answer to us and not outside interests or their own personal whims. And I truly believe that this recall will be fought tooth and nail because the Anti-2As won't want any representatives second guessing their instructions and promises... Nation-wide.

If this recall plants even a second of doubt into any of our representatives heads when they're deliberating, it will all be worth it. Regardless of whatever fuck-wit they replace Morse with.


This!

I agree, a recall is a victory even if the overall impact isn't monumental. It still sends a message.

[mtnrider]

So if they do replace him with another Bloomberg "yes man" can a petition be started against that guy?

[Rabid]

The D that has been speculated as a replacement for Morse is a former Bloomer staffer.
We can always go from the pan to the fire.
He was going to run next year for that seat http://tracer.sos.colorado.gov/PublicSite/SearchPages/CandidateDetail.aspx?Type=CA&SeqID=26858

[BPTactical]

I will agree 100% about sending a message. A first for CO after the Dimwits passed horrendous legislation that was very strongly opposed by the public.

You know why they are breaking out in lil buuholes and poopin all over themselves?
This effort places accountability on a liberal.
They haven't had that happen before.
They don't know what to do.



Giggle, Giggle.......

[DavieD55]

I just can't believe how he continually villianizes the people of Colorado to make himself look like a victim. The guy is a big [pileoshit].

[O2HeN2]

Bernie Herpin (http://bernieherpin.com/), former president (and current board member) of the Pikes Peak Firearms Coalition (PPFC) (http://ppfc.org/) and former city council member has thrown his hat into the ring.

The guy's got name recognition, a solid position on the 2nd amendment (putting it mildly) and government experience. He's an obvious choice unless you're a firearms organization that's hundreds of miles away from the election and you don't talk to anyone locally before endorsing a candidate. In which case you might endorse some no-name candidate to sabotage the election.

O2

[muddywings]

So has: http://www.jaxineforcolorado.org/

I don't know about either of them and I'm not in D-11. Just throwing more info on the fire.

[Squeeze]

I heard Morse is going to fight the recall. Figure might as well go down swinging. Either way once he gets his walkin' papers...it will be a win for the people. [Beer]

[Rabid]

A friend got this in the mail today. How long are they going to tot this lie around that it is out side interests and if Morse
wins he gets back all the money spent on mailers and robocalls right?
30081

30083

[Aloha_Shooter]

So has: http://www.jaxineforcolorado.org/

I don't know about either of them and I'm not in D-11. Just throwing more info on the fire.

I don't know Bernie Herpin personally but Jax is good people.

[Aloha_Shooter]

A friend got this in the mail today. How long are they going to tot this lie around that it is out side interests and if Morse
wins he gets back all the money spent on mailers and robocalls right?
30081

30083

Hahahaha ... oh, the irony. Morse has received more "out of state interest" money than the recall campaign ever had. The best part about it is every one of his lies is so transparent that he actually hurts himself.

[brutal]

Patsy is a Patsy.

Oh, and it's a Republic you cumb dunt.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

[Dave]

Hahahaha ... oh, the irony. Morse has received more "out of state interest" money than the recall campaign ever had. The best part about it is every one of his lies is so transparent that he actually hurts himself.

The problem is that people are still believing him and think the NRA pumped millions into this, and that his defense is all self funded and his one group on FB helping.

[Aloha_Shooter]

The problem is that people are still believing him and think the NRA pumped millions into this, and that his defense is all self funded and his one group on FB helping.

Mmm ... some of his morons might believe that but most of the people I met don't. The Denver Post can print all the lies they want for Boulderites, what matters are the people in his district and he's got a lot of angry Democrats there.

[kidicarus13]

Patsy is a Patsy.



Same thing I thought... "Patsy"

[stevelkinevil]

A friend got this in the mail today. How long are they going to tot this lie around that it is out side interests and if Morse
wins he gets back all the money spent on mailers and robocalls right?
30081

30083

I couldnt even finish reading before seething THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!! not a god damned democracy!!! why the hell does no one seem to grasp this basic concept and the VAST differences it entails?

[Rabid]

I couldnt even finish reading before seething THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!! not a god damned democracy!!! why the hell does no one seem to grasp this basic concept and the VAST differences it entails?
I always say look how well democracy has worked out for Greece to prove a point.

[muddywings]

just to keep up on the drama....

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/06/20/officials-representing-organizers-in-sen-john-morse-recall-say-legal-challenge-is-a-publicity-stunt/97349/

Officials representing the organizers vying to oust Sen. John Morse (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/topic/sen-john-morse/) from office on Thursday called the legal contest brought by backers of the Democratic Senate president a “certification day publicity stunt” that attempts to undermine the will of Morse’s constituents.
Earlier this week, the secretary of state’s office verified 10,137 of the 16,200 signatures the group submitted (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23486124/organizers-submit-sufficient-signatures-recall-sen-john-morse)on June 3. They needed just 7,178 validated to spark a recall (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/topic/recall/) in the El Paso County district and outpaced that figure by about 3,000 votes.


Shortly after a news release was dispersed by the secretary of state’s office deeming the recall sufficient, attorneys for Morse on Tuesday issued a legal contest that aims to nullify all of those signatures because they say petitioners failed to use certain language from the state Constitution in their effort.
A hearing on the matter is scheduled for June 27 at the secretary of state’s office.
“The petition was approved before it was circulated and that was 70 days ago. When the secretary of state approved it for circulation, copies were then sent to the organizers and to Senator Morse and there was ample time for review. If a legal challenge to that were necessary, it would have been then,” said Jennifer Kerns (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/topic/jennifer-kerns/), a spokeswoman for the Basic Freedom Defense Fund (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/topic/basic-freedom-defense-fund/), which oversees the El Paso Freedom Defense Committee (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/topic/el-paso-freedom-defense-committee/)who is leading the recall effort.
Mark Grueskin (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/topic/mark-grueskin/), an election lawyer who is representing a Morse constituent who filed the legal challenge, stressed Tuesday the organizers failed to use proper language as defined by the Colorado Constitution requiring petitions include information on a successor to the recalled lawmaker.
He cited Article 21, Section 1 of the Constitution that says petitions “expressly include a demand for the election of a successor to the recalled official,” and argued that all the signatures should be nullified because the “constitution is clear, just as the courts are clear: No recall petition is valid without this specific language.”
The recall petition’s plain language — which is stoked by Morse’s support of stricter Colorado gun laws — doesn’t appear to contain information relating to a successor being picked.
But Richard Westfall, legal counsel to the Colorado GOP party who signed on Thursday to represent the Freedom Defense Fund, said that’s a more “generic” section of the Constitution and that more focus should be placed on Section 2.
In Section 2 — which deals with recall petition forms — there’s no mention of language as it pertains to a successor, notes Westfall.
“It’s a generic concept calling for the election of a successor. They’re reaching as they go into the language of the Constitution … it’s Section 2 that talks about exactly what needs to go into the form,” Westfall said.
Morse could not be reached Thursday to answer questions about why at the time he received a copy of the petition language he did not raise concerns.
Westfall and Kerns said the Morse team wants to cause a “log jam” with possible court preceding and tie up the recall effort.
If the recall were to move forward, Morse would be the first ever state lawmaker to face a recall election. In 2010, he won his El Paso County district by less than 350 votes in a district that’s divided almost evenly among Democrats, Republicans and unaffiliated voters (http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_23425186/sen-john-morse-recall-questions-swirl-signature-verification).
Sen Angela Giron, D-Pueblo, is also the focus of a recall (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23429963/sen-angela-giron-certain-pueblo-constituents-will-back) in her southern Colorado district.

[DavieD55]

A friend got this in the mail today. How long are they going to tot this lie around that it is out side interests and if Morse
wins he gets back all the money spent on mailers and robocalls right?
30081

30083


$200,000 would be a small price to pay compared to the damage that [pileoshit] has done to Colorado over the years.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Guys ... we need to stay on message. Respond to the DP and Gazette articles or editorials to correct their misninformation. Talk to folks so they know Morse is being recalled BECAUSE he has misused his office by trying to exert undue pressure on the sheriffs, ignored constituents, etc. This is a citizens' action and we need folks to remember that and get enthused about it.

[james_bond_007]

What Caused All These Petition "wording" problems ?
( I wondered, and decided to look into things...)

After looking into this in the CRS code, it seems that the Sec of State, Scott Gessler (or his office) might be a fault.



The "blank" (unsigned) petition was to be supplied to the Sec of State for Review and Approval per CRS 1-12-107 (1) (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?pushme=1&tmpFBSel=&totaldocs=&taggedDocs=&toggleValue=&numDocsChked=0&prefFBSel=0&delformat=BOOK&fpDocs=&fpNodeId=&fpCiteReq=&expNewLead=id%3D%22expandedNewLead%22&_m=4c267f8cd082f94c4f14c80d6f15add7&displacement=6&oldFmt=FULL&oldAlias=1-12-101.%26nbsp%3BElected+officers+subject+to+recall&_prevNext=next&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAz&_md5=fc30d6916e409508b1818d96d762bf72) prior to the petition's circulation. The Sec of State was supposed to approve the petition "form", or return it the the petitioners, with a list of the issues or criteria not being properly met. In other words if the form was missing something, or had something it it not allowed, he was supposed to "catch" it, tell the petitioners, and not approve it. The petioners could then fix the issues and resubmit for review and approval again.
The petioners properly provided it to him for review and approval; however, he reviewed it and APPROVED it, so this was NOT the petitioners fault.
It is not clear whether the language in CRS 1-12-103 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?pushme=1&tmpFBSel=&totaldocs=&taggedDocs=&toggleValue=&numDocsChked=0&prefFBSel=0&delformat=BOOK&fpDocs=&fpNodeId=&fpCiteReq=&expNewLead=id%3D%22expandedNewLead%22&_m=0133992922ed8d8aca978dc47a1f4e9c&displacement=2&oldFmt=FULL&oldAlias=1-12-101.%26nbsp%3BElected+officers+subject+to+recall&_prevNext=prev&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAz&_md5=4dd0709c06f457c8a844aaf925127e2a) "a petition which demands the election of a successor to the officer named in the petition" needs to be an expressed demand (i.e written down) or an implied demand. The next line in CRS 1-12-103 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/retrieve?pushme=1&tmpFBSel=&totaldocs=&taggedDocs=&toggleValue=&numDocsChked=0&prefFBSel=0&delformat=BOOK&fpDocs=&fpNodeId=&fpCiteReq=&expNewLead=id%3D%22expandedNewLead%22&_m=0133992922ed8d8aca978dc47a1f4e9c&displacement=2&oldFmt=FULL&oldAlias=1-12-101.%26nbsp%3BElected+officers+subject+to+recall&_prevNext=prev&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAz&_md5=4dd0709c06f457c8a844aaf925127e2a) provides an expressed requirement as it starts with "The petition shall contain..." and lists a bunch of particulars that the petition must have or not have. No mention of a "demand" similar to that above is expressly listed.


So either the Sec of State

screwed up and was not aware of the need for "expressed demand" language and just "didn't catch" it, or
did NOT screw up and viewed the "petition to recall" itself as an "implied demand" for the election of successors.


There are bound to be issues since this is the first time the law has ever been exercised or tested ....(as far as I can tell).

Example of an implied demand:
You are selling hot dogs for $1
Someone comes up to you and presents you $1, but says nothing.
They are implying they want a hot dog because they are giving you the $1 bill.


Similarly, the petition to recall, by itself, may "imply" a demand to elect successors.
Let's see how it plays out ...[Coffee]

This post is an expression of my opinion and is not to be construed as "legal advice".

[Aloha_Shooter]

The format of the petition goes back years and years before Gessler so I'd say he could have honestly believed the election of successor is implied by the petition for recall. Morse is grasping at straws here; I fundamentally think he's trying to delay the election in court until he can get some young skulls full of mush back in session in his district so they can drop several thousand same day registrations/votes on the election.

[Circuits]

yeah, he needs CC in session bad

[muddywings]

review of the legal issues/arguments given by both sides:

http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2013/06/27/recall-petition-legal-challenge-to-oust-colorado-state-senator-john-morse-receives-hearing-before-co-secretary-of-state/

In some sick twisted way, i slightly wonder what will happen if they do get all that work tossed out. I think and hope there would be an epic uproar that would carry through the state until the 2014 election. The fight needs to continue across the state until there is a pro-2A majority in the legislature and in the Gov office.
anyway....back to work!

[XJ]

Gazette has a not-so-good story today, I'm obviously suspicious that Morse supporters made sure this would happen [pileoshit]

http://gazette.com/fraud-alleged-in-morse-recall-campaign/article/1502923

[hurley842002]

Gazette has a not-so-good story today, I'm obviously suspicious that Morse supporters made sure this would happen [pileoshit]

http://gazette.com/fraud-alleged-in-morse-recall-campaign/article/1502923

What the hell, don't recall supporters realize that Dems have a patent on forging signatures and using names of the deceased!!!

[BPTactical]

What the hell, don't recall supporters realize that Dems have a patent on forging signatures and using names of the deceased!!!

Why yes they do.
How quaint

[james_bond_007]

John Morse recall: Accusations of intimidation by his backers swirl
Posted July 1, 2013 (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/07/01), 12:33 pm MTFrom phone calls to “unsavory” postcards in the mail, Barbi Brown on Monday said she’s been the subject of alleged intimidation on the part of backers of Senate President John Morse in a recall effort to oust the state lawmaker from office.

“They’ve called me and said people have changed their minds and I should take my name off the recall list,” said Brown, 81, who lives in an apartment in Senate District 11 near Memorial Park. “I said, ‘No way!’”

Brown was among about a dozen constituents of Morse who said Monday they’ve received phone calls from officials with A Whole Lot of People for John Morse — the group backing the state lawmaker — urging them to withdraw their names from petitions.
Read the rest here (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/07/01/accusations-of-intimidation-by-sen-john-morse-backers-swirl-in-recall/97820/)

[Zundfolge]

Is it wrong for me to be disappointed by the fact that one of these Stalinist idiots hasn't called me yet? :(

[hurley842002]

Is it wrong for me to be disappointed by the fact that one of these Stalinist idiots hasn't called me yet? :(

No, just wrong to be on their "list".

[kawiracer14]

They should call the group "A whole lotta whining from John Morse"

[muddywings]

and the latest....yeaaaa baby:

http://gazette.com/morse-recall-election-to-move-forward/article/1503080?custom_click=rss

The Colorado Secretary of State has set the stage for a recall election against Sen. John Morse, D-Colorado Springs.
A six-page ruling handed down Wednesday afternoon rejected a protest filed by one of Morse's Senate District 11 constituents, meaning that petitions filed by those opposed to Morse's gun control positions will stand.
The election will be held sometime in August.

[halletts]

Just read that the Secretary of State has rejected Morse and Co.'s request to void the recall signatures based on incorrect petition language. So, can they appeal and drag this out any longer or will we really have a special election next month? And then another for that fine senator from Pueblo...

[TFOGGER]

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/images/MB/emoticons/woot.gif

[halletts]

For the curious, here's a link to the Secretary of State's decision on morse's petition language challenge

http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/newsRoom/pressReleases/2013/20130703Morse.pdf

[Great-Kazoo]

Just read that the Secretary of State has rejected Morse and Co.'s request to void the recall signatures based on incorrect petition language. So, can they appeal and drag this out any longer or will we really have a special election next month? And then another for that fine senator from Pueblo...

They are now saying the SoS should not be involved because he is a R. [Bang]

[Bailey Guns]

They are now saying the SoS should not be involved because he is a R. [Bang]

Well, hell. They probably should void all the registered republican names on the petitions in that case. That would be "fair". Liberals love "fair".

[mikedubs]

I see them appealing again...the final stop is the CO SC, which is liberal, to put it mildly.
As for attacking Gessler, they want his job period. This is more ammo for them to use next election to unseat him.
Anyone want to guess what kind of stuff will happen with a Dem SoS? "What recall petition, we don't show you dropped off any signatures"

The point is to delay, stall, and obfuscate till the recall petition is tossed, or till it's close to next November and becomes a moot point.

[sniper7]

Any more news on this

[muddywings]

Any more news on this

latest I have seen:


Two Colorado Democratic lawmakers facing recall elections for their support of the state's strict new gun control laws failed in separate attempts to block or slow their recall elections Wednesday.
The secretary of state's office ruled against Senate President John Morse of Colorado Springs, who wanted his recall effort invalidated because of a technical error by his opponents.
Deputy secretary of state Suzanne Staiert also rejected a request by Democratic Sen. Angela Giron of Pueblo to have her recall challenge shifted to a new venue because she said Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler wouldn't fairly decide her case.
The twin decisions mean appeals and more legal wrangling over what could be the first state legislative recall elections in Colorado history.
In the Morse case, Staiert rejected the Democratic claim that recall petitions were invalid because they were improperly worded. She said the petitions "substantially complied" with the law.
She said that Morse's opponents "made a good-faith effort to comply with the law and did not consciously attempt to mislead the electorate."
In the Giron case, the senator's recall petitions were worded much the same, and she is making an identical challenge. But first, a Democratic lawyer asked for Gessler's deputy to recuse the office.
Mark Grueskin made the recusal request after seeing a March account in The Pueblo Chieftain of Gessler telling a Republican gathering about the recall process.
"This is an event and an act that calls into question the ability of the secretary to render a decision without the appearance of impropriety," Grueskin said.
Staiert dismissed the concern, saying Gessler didn't advocate for a lawmaker's recall. "There is no appearance of impropriety here," Staiert wrote.
Jennifer Kerns, a spokeswoman for the group attempting to oust Morse, told The Denver Post that any further legal challenge would amount to an attempt to "delay and deny justice" to Morse's constituents.
"They delivered above and beyond the number of signatures needed to commence the recall process," Kerns told the newspaper. "The people of Colorado knew darn well what they were signing; they want to recall the elected officials who are drastically out of touch with their constituents.
Giron and Morse are being targeted for recalls because they both supported gun control measures. Gun-rights activists say Democrats went too far curbing gun rights with two of the measures — one to restrict ammunition magazines and another to expand required background checks.
Four Democrats were initially targeted, but recall petitions only made it to completion against Morse and Giron. Gessler's office has said the Morse and Giron petitions had enough valid signatures to force recall elections, possibly later this summer. Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper would ultimately set the recall election dates, but not before legal challenges are exhausted.
If Morse and Giron face recall elections, they'd be the first state lawmakers to go to a recall vote since Colorado adopted the recall in 1912. Grueskin, the lawyer making both recall challenges, has said he'd appeal decisions to the Denver District Court.
Gov. John Hickenlooper is required to set an election date after receiving the certificates from the Secretary of State's office, which could come as early as Monday, according to The Denver Post. The election must be held within 60 days of receiving the paperwork.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/04/recall-efforts-against-pro-gun-control-colorado-dems-survive-challenge/#ixzz2YIqxQUiO

I am curious to see what happens on monday.

[muddywings]

well monday has come and gone...I haven't heard much. anybody else??

[Circuits]

Maybe Hick will cite his conscience and refuse to set an election date until after his term expires? Then the recall would have to sue him or move for his impeachment for failing to perform required duties of his office.

[zulu01]

It's going to court.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/344332/188/Morse-supporters-seek-court-delay-of-recall-process

[Zundfolge]

It's going to court.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/344332/188/Morse-supporters-seek-court-delay-of-recall-process

These are the same Demonrats that complain that a recall election is a tremendous waste of money.

[halletts]

They're also the same democrats that piss all over themselves about infringing on voting rights (hence our same day voter registration legislation from this past session). Gotta love it, hypocrisy at its finest...

[muddywings]

Former Colorado Springs City Council member Bernie Herpin won the GOP spot on the ballot in the attempt to oust state Sen. John Morse, D-Colorado Springs Tuesday night in a semi-official primary.
Herpin received 30 votes from Republican leaders living within Senate District 11 while Jaxine Bubis received 18. Both candidates had expressed their intent to challenge Morse in the upcoming recall election, but had agreed to allow 51 voters to decide which candidate should be on the ballot.
Bubis was the subject of critical emails circulated among Republicans attacking a series of romance novels she wrote under a pen name. Bubis said Tuesday she respected the process and would support Herpin in the upcoming election.
Almost all of the eligible 51 voters turned out Tuesday night to cast a ballot.
Morse and three other state lawmakers were targeted for ouster from office when they supported a ban on high-capacity magazines and universal background checks for private gun sales. Only Sen. Angela Giron, D-Pueblo, also received enough signatures on recall petitions to face an election.
A date for the recall elections has not been set.
Gov. John Hickenlooper will set the date within a 30 day window that begins 45 days after the Secretary of State certified that the petition drive had enough signatures to demand a recall.
The campaign to unseat Morse gathered more than 10,000 valid signatures that were certified June 18 - placing the election sometime in August.
El Paso County Clerk and Recorder Wayne Williams recommended that the election date by August 27 - the last possible date in the 30-day window that doesn't fall on the Tuesday after Labor Day.
But Morse and his supporters are working hard to keep the issue off the ballot.
A constituent from the district first filed a complaint with the Secretary of State's office saying the petition and all 10,000 valid signatures should be tossed out because it failed to inform voters that Morse would be replaced in an election.
Deputy Secretary of State Suzanne Staiert rejected that argument and ordered the recall election be scheduled by the governor.
Staiert also ruled against a similar challenge to the recall attempt of Giron. That decision was appealed Tuesday in a complaint to Denver District Court asking for an injunction, postponing the election until the court can also rule on whether the petition meets state law requirements.
Megan Castle, spokeswoman for Hickenlooper, said the office is working to establish an "optimal date" for the election but said things could get put on hold because of the lawsuit.
"We are reviewing the implications of this lawsuit and its potential impact on the timing of our decision," Castle said in a statement.
While, the GOP candidate is set for a potential recall election, it's unknown if any Democrats will enter the race to replace Morse.
The two Democrats who filed their intent to run in 2014, when Morse reaches his term limit, have both said they will not enter the recall.
Michael Merrifield, a former state representative and Manitou Springs councilmember, said he will put all of his campaign efforts behind keeping Morse in office and then focus on his race for Senate District 11 in 2014.
"It's very frustrating that he's dealing with a recall when a majority of voters voted him in, and a majority of voters support what he's done," Merrifield said. "He's a great guy and he's been a great senator."
Dan Ajamian, a Republican precinct leader who voted Tuesday in the primary, said he participated because he wants to get Morse out of office.
The Senate District 11 voter said he's spoken to moderates and Manitou Springs hippies about the issue and all agree Morse needs to go.
"They are all furious about what John Morse did in Denver, so I'm confident that we will recall John Morse," Ajamian said. "It's not just right-wing fanatics; it's the normal average citizen."

http://gazette.com/bernie-herpin-wins-bid-for-gop-spot-on-morse-recall-ballot/article/1503287

well....now that is settled....Let's get ready to rumbeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll! once all the legal delays by the other side are finished.....in 3 years :(

[Great-Kazoo]

This is why the R's are determined to loose any elections. STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER AND FOCUS!

Bubis was the subject of critical emails circulated among Republicans attacking a series of romance novels she wrote under a pen name. Bubis said Tuesday she respected the process and would support Herpin in the upcoming election.

[mountainjenny]

This is why the R's are determined to loose any elections. STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER AND FOCUS!

No doubt. Why can't they see this as a problem?

[ChunkyMonkey]

The Senate District 11 voter said he's spoken to moderates and Manitou Springs hippies about the issue and all agree Morse needs to go.[/SIZE]

Hippies voting out an anti gun! Heck yeah!

[Great-Kazoo]

Hippies voting out an anti gun! Heck yeah!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZehV_eYtR8

[bradbn4]

Former Colorado Springs City Council member Bernie Herpin won the GOP spot on the ballot in the attempt to oust state Sen. John Morse, D-Colorado Springs Tuesday night in a semi-official primary.
Herpin received 30 votes from Republican leaders living within Senate District 11 while Jaxine Bubis received 18. Both candidates had expressed their intent to challenge Morse in the upcoming recall election, but had agreed to allow 51 voters to decide which candidate should be on the ballot.


Well, I can't vote for Berny Herpin directly, but I can kick some money to his election election drive. I was bummed out man, when he lost his last election.

[Mountain Man]

I back Herpin as well. RMGO has burned the last bridge with me with their antics and smear campain against Bernie. I'm glad to see Bubis keep her word since she is an independent and could run anyway.

[sniper7]

Let's get the party started.

[Hound]

This is why the R's are determined to loose any elections. STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER AND FOCUS!

Bubis was the subject of critical emails circulated among Republicans attacking a series of romance novels she wrote under a pen name. Bubis said Tuesday she respected the process and would support Herpin in the upcoming election.

^^^this^^^

[hollohas]

Denver's KDVR.com reported today that the Sec. Of State sued Hickenpooper yesterday because he has yet to set a recall election date.

[Bailey Guns]

^^ Couldn't find anything about that on the KDVR website.

[hollohas]

http://kdvr.com/2013/07/14/gessler-sues-hickenlooper-wants-recall-election-date-set/

Edit: it was on the front page with a picture even...for like a minute. Guess they are trying to hide it now.

[Bowtie]

9 NEWS had a story aswell
http://www.9news.com/news/article/345404/188/Clerk-Governors-delay-threatens-preferred-recall-date

Hick says he cant set a date until he talks to the clerks, but 9news shows a letter to Hick from the clerks to set the day as August 27th. Its good to see these reporters calling hick on his delay, even though it took Gessler to sue him to bring it to their attention.

[Aloha_Shooter]

PACK THE COURT TOMORROW!!!!


Fellow Recall Morse Volunteers,




STOP MORSE'S LAWSUIT: Help ensure the Recall Elections move forward!





THIS WEDNESDAY!



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Help ensure the voice of the people is heard! Senator John Morse is challenging the Recall efforts in Court, and THIS WEDNESDAY is our day to pack the Courtroom to send a message that We the People won't be silenced! This critical Court case will determine whether or not the Recall elections against Sens. John Morse and Angela Giron move forward. Morse constituents, Grassroots activists, Coalitions, Opinion leaders all welcome. Join us! And please SHARE this with your List!

HOW:
Meet us on the Court steps at 8:00a.m.
Enter into the Courthouse and report to "Judge Hyatt's" Courtroom (look for signs).
Attire is business, business casual, or presentable casual

If you are from Senator Morse's District and are open to speaking with the Media that day, let Jennifer know via remorseco@bfdf.org and she'll introduce you to Reporters who will be there so you can defend the People's fundamental right to Recall!

Court case is expected to go til Noon, perhaps longer. You may leave during Courtroom breaks if needed.

El Paso Freedom Defense Committee
Purpose - Recall Senator John Morse








Rob Harris

Help Recall Colorado Senator John Morse (District 11)


Coloradorecall.com (http://Coloradorecall.com)

[james_bond_007]

John Morse, Angela Giron recall elections can proceed, judge rules



Read more: John Morse, Angela Giron recall elections can proceed, judge rules - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23686763/john-morse-angela-giron-recall-elections-can-proceed#ixzz2ZQh7Xs65) http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23686763/john-morse-angela-giron-recall-elections-can-proceed#ixzz2ZQh7Xs65

A Denver District Court judge on Thursday ruled petitions submitted to recall two Democratic lawmakers are valid, setting in motion the first ever recall election of a state lawmaker in Colorado history.
"The petitions here substantially comply with law," Judge Robert Hyatt said.
"Recalls are a fundamental right of Colorado citizens."
Hyatt also said his ruling was not on the merits of gun control legislation that sparked the recall efforts but on the technical issues.
The decision is expected to be appealed to the state Supreme Court.
The judge also denied a request from Secretary of State Scott Gessler to force Gov. John Hickenlooper to set a recall election date.
Hyatt said the governor "rightly chose to respect this court, wait for its ruling."
Click the link above to read more...

[3beansalad]

BFDF says the Recall election to take place September 10, 2013.

http://gazette.com/judge-greenlights-recall-elections-for-morse-giron/article/1503662

[Ronin13]

Ok folks in Giron and Morse's districts, don't just go out there and vote them out, that isn't enough- bring people with you (sort of)! That old dude who lives across the street, offer to help him with his ballot and mail it in for him (I'm assuming it's a mail in), don't go at it alone. We defeated the unjust recall of our Fire board up here in Evergreen, in part because we were organized. Now that a recall that actually has merit comes along, and will change things for the better, this has no excuse to fail. Remind everyone to vote against Morse and Giron... even if they are kind of on the fence you know what to tell them, why this is happening. If this doesn't succeed, CO fails. Keep up the good work! [Beer]

[james_bond_007]

I believe there is also one more trick up the Dem's sleeves.

If John Morse and/or Angela Giron quit, and give up their positions, Gov. Hickenlooper must appoint someone to serve in their positions until the next General Election.


CRS 1-12-201. Vacancies in office of United States senator
(1) When a vacancy occurs in the office of United States senator from this state, the governor shall make a temporary appointment to fill the vacancy until it is filled by election.
(2) When a vacancy occurs, the governor shall direct the secretary of state to include in the general election notice for the next general election a notice of the filling of the vacancy. The secretary of state shall give notice accordingly. At the election, the vacancy shall be filled for the unexpired term. If, for any reason, no United States senator is elected at the next general election, the person temporarily appointed by the governor shall hold the office until a United States senator is elected at a succeeding general election.

This serves to oust Morse and Giron, but does not guarantee a "gun friendly" appointee.

[Aloha_Shooter]

james_bond, that's for a US senator. The recall doesn't guarantee a gun friendly replacement unless a plurality of people vote for one but the Dems can only appoint a replacement if Morse resigns within 5 days. The fracturing of anti-Dems will just make things easier for Merrifield since Dems will unite behind him.

[O2HeN2]

BFDF says the Recall election to take place September 10, 2013.

http://gazette.com/judge-greenlights-recall-elections-for-morse-giron/article/1503662

Dang, the dems won the delay game. CC will be back in session by then. :(

O2

[battle_sight_zero]

Dang, the dems won the delay game. CC will be back in session by then. :(

O2

Why do a bunch of out of state spoiled rotten kids get to vote?

[hatidua]

Why do a bunch of out of state spoiled rotten kids get to vote?

It swings both ways. I voted for Reagan while living in Singapore. Sometimes those spoiled rotten kids vote the direction you may want, sometimes they don't.

[def90]

I don't think the kids will care much about a small recall election anyway.

[zteknik]

I don't think the kids will care much about a small recall election anyway.
I tend to agree,its not a big ticket election so this one would be trivial to them,if they even know about it anyway.

[mrghost]

BFDF says the Recall election to take place September 10, 2013.

http://gazette.com/judge-greenlights-recall-elections-for-morse-giron/article/1503662

"Forseth said it's unfortunate that a special-interest group is able to use recall elections to influence the legislative process."

That is the most infuriating, hypocritical statement...ever.

[Circuits]

Why do a bunch of out of state spoiled rotten kids get to vote?

Not all are out-of-state, and the rest of them can declare themselves residents while they're here, and same-day register to vote, since that shit's happened too, now.

[O2HeN2]

Not all are out-of-state, and the rest of them can declare themselves residents while they're here, and same-day register to vote, since that shit's happened too, now.
And you can bet the Morse camp will be on the campus making sure they're doing just that.

O2

[zulu01]

Now he's filing a criminal complaint.

http://kdvr.com/2013/07/21/facing-recall-morse-to-file-criminal-complaint-monday/

[Circuits]

Anything but actually face the people he's (supposed to be) representing.

[brutal]

He's a giant bag of used up douche-water mixed in with used up enema-water.

[avandelay]

Now he's filing a criminal complaint.

http://kdvr.com/2013/07/21/facing-recall-morse-to-file-criminal-complaint-monday/

That 'report' makes it sound like Christy Le Lait is just another volunteer when in reality she is Executive Director of the El Paso County Democratic Party.

[Hound]

This is now being sent out. Um... So are the rest of you going after Morse for background checks cuz that is what this makes it sound like we are upset about. I have a lot more I am personally not happy with coming from him!!!




The clock has officially started: recalls against two Colorado Democrats are now set for September 10th.


That leaves Democrats a little more than six weeks make their case to voters and fight through hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of attacks from Republicans and the gun lobby. But if we raise $50,000 in the next ten days, we can begin our rapid-response plan early in critical swing districts like these across the country.


Please rush $10 or more to defend Democrats like Angela Giron, John Morse, and others across the country who are being attacked for supporting background checks!


State Sens. Morse and Giron are being recalled for the supposed “malfeasance” of making their communities safer by requiring background checks for all gun sales – an idea supported by more than 90% of Americans and 80% of Coloradans.


But now that these recalls are moving forward, we have a chance to prove that Democrats across the country won’t be intimidated by an extreme minority who oppose background checks in all instances.


Help us raise $50,000 by the end of the month to defend Democrats like Sens. Morse and Giron who’ve come under attack across the country – please rush $10 or more today!


Stopping recalls like these is one of the most important priorities for Democrats all over America who believe in commonsense gun safety. Thank you for making a difference in that fight.


Sincerely,


Kevin Boyd
Regional Strategist
The Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee

[brutal]

So much fail. So many lies. So much deception and FUD.

[Zundfolge]

Why do a bunch of out of state spoiled rotten kids get to vote?Not all are out-of-state, and the rest of them can declare themselves residents while they're here, and same-day register to vote, since that shit's happened too, now.
The only people that can vote are in Senate District 11. CC nor UCCS nor the immediate residential areas around it are in SD11 so they'll have to do pull pretty dodgy shit to get those kids registered to vote in this election (not that I don't expect them to try ... I guarantee you that Morse people are the ones that put the forged signatures on the petition ... dirty pool from a filty dirty animal).

As close as it'll be here in SD11, the REAL fight is going to be the one down in Pueblo.

[mikedubs]

The only people that can vote are in Senate District 11. CC nor UCCS nor the immediate residential areas around it are in SD11 so they'll have to do pull pretty dodgy shit to get those kids registered to vote in this election (not that I don't expect them to try ... I guarantee you that Morse people are the ones that put the forged signatures on the petition ... dirty pool from a filty dirty animal).

As close as it'll be here in SD11, the REAL fight is going to be the one down in Pueblo.

How does that work? CC looks like it's in the middle of SD 11. Did the district get redrawn or something?

[Circuits]

CC is smack-dab in the middle of SD11 - precincts 176 and 177 mostly. UCCS is in SD12 (my district).

[flogger]

I don't get it. The address is to 'The Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee' , am I missing something or is this a joke?

[Aloha_Shooter]

The only people that can vote are in Senate District 11. CC nor UCCS nor the immediate residential areas around it are in SD11 so they'll have to do pull pretty dodgy shit to get those kids registered to vote in this election (not that I don't expect them to try ... I guarantee you that Morse people are the ones that put the forged signatures on the petition ... dirty pool from a filty dirty animal).

As close as it'll be here in SD11, the REAL fight is going to be the one down in Pueblo.

I don't know what map you're going off of but Colorado College is in Precinct 176 (bordered on the north by Uintah, west by I-25, east by Prospect, south by Bijou to Cascade and Willamette to El Paso) which is inside the current map of Senate District 11 and surrounded by other neighborhoods also within SD11. I fully expect the Morse people to get as many of those kids to do same-day registration and voting as they can although I will concede Pueblo will have even more dirty tricks going on.

[Zundfolge]

Ah ... I was looking at the map wrong ... sheesh and I work for a mapping company /facepalm

[longbow]

So going forward is it the Freedom defense fund that is still organizing this? Where are donations best sent at this point?

[Aloha_Shooter]

So going forward is it the Freedom defense fund that is still organizing this? Where are donations best sent at this point?

The best way to donate to the El Paso Freedom Defense Fund is through bfdf.org (http://bfdf.org). They have a website set up to take credit card donations and do all the accounting and proper legal filings so we can concentrate on our grassroots efforts. We are still organizing efforts to get people to vote for recall but are non-partisan so have no chosen replacement candidate and will not take sides on that secondary question. You will have to support the candidate of your choice through his or her party or election fund. Any funds sent to the recall effort will be used for pro-recall yard signs, street signs, bumper stickers, etc. We are in a transitory phase of trying to educate SD11 voters about Morse's record and making sure people are geared up for the Sep 10 vote. Next phase will be pollwatching and getting anti-Morse voters registered and to the polls.

The Giron recall is using a different umbrella organization (I don't remember the name or link) and they also can use funding as their Clerk & Recorder is a blatant partisan who didn't even bother to hide some of the funky things he was doing in the last election like storing ballot boxes off-camera (in violation of state law).

Americans For Prosperity (http://hqafp.org) is doing political education work hitting Morse on economic freedom issues but they are separate and distinct from EPFDF.

[hollohas]

Well the state libertarians failed to get their act together and now a judge has delayed the recall election even further to give them time to get thier guy on the ballot. Not good for the recall election but I think they may have been laying the ground work for the bigger picture fight against the libs. The judge ruled in favor of the state constitution and against hick's new election law. Could help with future fights against the elction law. Hopefully the delay doesn't hurt the recall but I think it will...

[mtnhack]

<p>

Well the state libertarians failed to get their act together and now a judge has delayed the recall election even further to give them time to get thier guy on the ballot. Not good for the recall election but I think they may have been laying the ground work for the bigger picture fight against the libs. The judge ruled in favor of the state constitution and against hick&#39;s new election law. Could help with future fights against the elction law. Hopefully the delay doesn&#39;t hurt the recall but I think it will...I do not think this is true. The way I understand it, there will be no mail in ballots because the Libertarians were not allowed the proper time to get the signatures. http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23848198/denver-judge-sides-libertarians-colorado-recall-lawsuit</p>

[sroz]

Can't help but wonder if the 3rd party candidates will benefit the Dems again.