http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/06/pi...on-protesters/ Using FEDS and or ice agents. To make sure ILLEGALS are allowed to pass. What happened in a Massachusetts town, when government soldiers were dispatched.
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http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/06/pi...on-protesters/ Using FEDS and or ice agents. To make sure ILLEGALS are allowed to pass. What happened in a Massachusetts town, when government soldiers were dispatched.
They should dispatch the same guys to the mexican border to just keep the illegals out in the first place.
The .gov doesn't shoot voters, current and future ones.Now Clive Bundy sympathizers, racist who don't care about helpless children. Those are GO targets. We shall see how MSM covers this. [hahhah-no]Quote:
Originally Posted by RCCrawler
Another way of looking at is is dispatching LE agents (riot troops specialized in crowd control) to allow other LE to do their jobs...
As for how the MSM will cover it? http://www.npr.org/2014/07/05/328852...-ties-with-ice (hint, they are not. yet)
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Before immigrants get deported, they are sometimes held temporarily by local law enforcement at the request of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. But cities across the country, including Philadelphia, are saying they will no longer fully cooperate with that plan.
I'll be anxiously watching this story to see if this really happens. That's gonna raise the stakes considerably if it does.
We need the same thing that happened in Nevada to happen here. This also speaks directly to the need for a "well armed Militia".
They found the bomber hiding in a boat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
The Feds actively enabling the breaking of immigration law. Who'da thunk it....
Meanwhile, we have a President who says he has to act on his own because Congress will not. Uh, Mr. President, Congress has acted, including many years before you were ever sworn into the office. The immigration laws are on the books. It's YOUR JOB to execute and enforce those laws, not break them because you or your party don't like them. You swore an oath, and now we all see what you do with the power entrusted to you by the people. You act like an insolent king.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua
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Originally Posted by Scanker19
You're kidding right?
^^^^^^ What he said!
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scanker19
Think more about July 4th and what it really is about. Please.
Try 1700's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scanker19
Concord Hymn
Ralph Waldo Emerson
By the rude bridge that arched the flood.
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.
The foe long since in silence slept;
Alike the conqueror silent sleeps;
And Time the ruined bridge has swept
Down the dark stream which seaward creeps.
On this green bank, by this soft stream,
We set to-day a votive stone;
That memory may their deed redeem,
When, like our sires, are sons are gone.
Spirit, that made those heros dare
To die and leave their children free,
Bid Time and Nature gently spare
The shaft we raise to them and thee.
TEA
III
Gentlemen. He knows. He's yanking your chain - sort of...
He's also reminding everyone how the populace of Boston responded to the actions of federal/state/local law enforcement troops in Boston following the marathon bombing. Most people didn't object to what occured because it was in the interest of their "safety".
The feds gotta protect their kin.
I thought of both instances.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
One led to liberty, the other was another example of "the ends justify the means".
If not Now, When .
If you block a road you have to expect to get arrested. I applaud them but they have to know that is what it'll come to. Try holding a peaceful anti-nuke protest in front of Warren AFB and block the main entrance. You won't last long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
He's really ignorant of the Constitution for a "Constitutional schlolar". Just because congress does or does not do something doesn't give him the authority to do or not do it depending on what he thinks is best. And why isn't he accountable for breaking the law...over and over again? In my opinion he, and most of his cabinet, and most of the house and senate are derelict in the performance of their duty to uphold and protect the Constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Standing in the middle of a PUBLIC road way is much different than being on A GOVERNMENT INSTALLATION.Quote:
Originally Posted by merl
This isn't the first time we disagree on something
If i block a road, i'm blocking the road. I am willing to deal with the consequences for my beliefs.
We have an administration who believes what they decide, without approval of Congress is acceptable.
Arrest AMERICAN CITIZENS while ILLEGALS driven across the southwest are given the comforts of home.
Public road or air force base, either way it is civil disobedience. Perfectly valid form of protest but it does carry consequences. It is of interest that the local police wanted no part in enforcing those consequences.
Nor the Mayor. Who was the catalyst, rousing the locals to storm the castle.Quote:
Originally Posted by merl
Once again the analogy of WHITES IN THE SOUTH, from a Illegal Immigrant Supporter is used.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/07/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t3
The images coming out of Murrieta reminded me of another group of protesters intent on defying an order from the federal government: white Southerners in the 1960s. They also terrorized children, African-Americans who sought to attend desegregated public schools, much as the children on the bus were terrorized by the angry mob.
"The screaming and hateful people in (Murrieta) reminded me of the people who screamed at little black kids walking to schools (accompanied by law enforcement), who treated James Meredith and Autherine Lucy and so many young people horribly. It is so sad that after all these years, so many people haven't gotten a clue about decency and kindness."
Fortunately the comments section is running 60% against ILLEGALS and Ruben's OPINION piece.
Navarette, I seriously disagree with your view on immigrants and I'm a democrat. Stop making excuses and send them back home. This is NOT a humanitarian problem, it's an illegal immigration problem.
What do you do when the door to your house doesn't lock? You stand guard and protect it.
Absolutely. If it for humanitarian reasons there are people living in refugee camps all over Africa that we know without a doubt are in the middle of a crisis. Are we flying those people who are obviously in need to our doorstep? Hell no. Why? Because we could double the population of the country absorbing refugees and there would still be more. We would be creating refugees because now people know make up a story and you are in (like many of these refugees) or leaders would have a way to ship away the people they don't want.Quote:
This is NOT a humanitarian problem, it's an illegal immigration problem.
The one thing they seem to forget is that the past issues were with white DEMOCRATS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
This used to be a nation of laws. Now laws are selectively applied to whomever the administration determines to be the enemy and those that the administration finds in favor.
THEY also forget Caesar Chavez, outside of organizing (UFW) for better work / sanitary conditions. Wanted tougher immigration laws, because the "wets" were crossing to CA and under cutting his farm workers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
while this has always been an issue...suddenly I am left wondering that of all the nightmarish shit that has come out of this administration, if this is the what is going to take the whole country to a bad bad place.
It's a principle that gets as basic as you can get; You can't have a sovereign nation without defensible borders. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraven251
Exactly right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman