I don't know why this bugs me, but it does......

I just recently had a new neighbor move into the house that a scumbag was living in
since last fall. The new guy is a nice guy and is former military and Im not sure if he
is married or not. I met him the other day for the first time. He asked me about my military
service, I have Navy plates on my truck, and what I did, thenwithout me asking he readily
volunteered that he was SEAL and when I said I was in a BUD/S class and washed out, he had
an involuntary response of surpise and then dropped it almost immediatly.
To me, his reaction was his subconscious admission he is a liar.[Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
It has been bugging me since then and I have no idea why as Im not the one who
has to make shit up when I tell stories of my military past.
Anyone else run into stuff like this and have the same irritation to people
who supposedly lie about their military careers?

Looks like that house attracts the scumbags.

Not so much with just military but just in general. I have a friend who just lies about everything, and it could be the most trivial thing. I usually just let him be, but it's funny to call him out on it.

I would call him out! Or is maybe because you washed out and he didn't know what to say about it? I would venture to guess he is lying but just be straight up and ask him. Tell him you want to see his DD214 (it didn't happen if not on here) so you can trust him and your new friend ship...

Perhaps he just felt bad for you and figured he would change the subject.

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Originally Posted by 10mm-man

I would call him out! Or is maybe because you washed out and he didn't know what to say about it? I would venture to guess he is lying but just be straight up and ask him. Tell him you want to see his DD214 so you can trust him and your new friend ship...

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Yea, I would also ask him if has every killed anyone.

My expereience is most that volunteer alot of info or start yapping about what they did without knowing you or you asking, usually is a flake.

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

Yea, I would also ask him if has every killed anyone.

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^^ Yea, that is always a good one!

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

Perhaps he just felt bad for you and figured he would change the subject.

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^^^ I use to get cops telling me how they tried to get in the Corps but couldn't or others in the Corps how they wanted to go into my field and failed. I would change the subject asap because I had no idea how to tell the cops and the others; what losers they were!

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

Perhaps he just felt bad for you and figured he would change the subject.

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This was my first impression, bring up stuff someone who was in that position would know. See how he responds. If he cent answer he probably just has low self esteem, and wants to impress you.

Maybe he thinks your dreamy, and got lost in your eyes.

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^^^ I use to get cops telling me how they tried to get in the Corps but couldn't or others in the Corps how they wanted to go into my field and failed. I would change the subject asap because I had no idea how to tell the cops and the others; what losers they were!

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Thats not nice. I have NEVER thought that about ANY of the people who told me how much they wanted to be a Marine but for whatever reason just didn't.[ROFL2]

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Originally Posted by 10mm-man

^^^ I use to get cops telling me how they tried to get in the Corps but couldn't or others in the Corps how they wanted to go into my field and failed. I would change the subject asap because I had no idea how to tell the cops and the others; what losers they were!

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Because they did not cut it being a marine??

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Originally Posted by Mtn.man

My expereience is most that volunteer alot of info or start yapping about what they did without knowing you or you asking, usually is a flake.

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I have encountered the exact same experience with folks who yap away from the get goand volunteeer info without me asking etc.

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

Perhaps he just felt bad for you and figured he would change the subject.

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No that wasnt it at all, I didnt say anything about washing until after his reaction.
I just said initially I was part of my class. He didnt say ANYTHING about his class he graduated from.

As nice of a guy and all the good he does for the Legion and VA, at least what he said in our convo, just makes me wonder.

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My expereience is most that volunteer alot of info or start yapping about what they did without knowing you or you asking, usually is a flake.

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I agree 100% yappers usually are either full of b.s. or want a pat on the back...

Hard to guess what his reaction was really about. Give him a chance to prove he is a goof or not by himself without any prodding.

Even if he is a story teller, he might make a fine neighbor.

I know how you feel. I've never been in the service but it irritates me when people lie about military service, my next door neighbor also claims he was a SEAL [Bang] I'm pretty confident there's no chance in hell he was

What's the quote. There are 3000 navy seals and 30,000 seals in bars every friday night.

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Originally Posted by flan7211

What's the quote. There are 3000 navy seals and 30,000 seals in bars every friday night.

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I thought it was for every 100 "Bar" SEALs there are just 1 actual SEAL. [ROFL1][ROFL2]

Ask him something only someone is Buds training or a Navy Seal would know :-)

I'd just mention what class you were in and then nonchalantly ask him what class he was in. If he rattles it off right away, pretty easy to verify. If he stumbles about...well, you'll probably have your answer.

This is exactly why I don't socialize with my neighbors.

Are you sure your zipper wasn't down? Maybe he noticed it and was frightened. [Coffee]

My guess too. He may not have wanted to make you feel uncomfortable. Some folks don't like to talk about stuff like that, others don't mind. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was trying not to offend you.

Maybe bring it up again and see where it goes. He may be a bullshitter, or he may have some interesting tales and you may have a lot in common. I don't think I'd condemn him right off the bat until you have more info.

My stepdaughter's boyfreind claims to have either been a SEAL or went through the training and washed out. I won't talk to the douchebag about it, but this is what he's told my grandson. The maggot doesn't fit the sterotype of that breed of man, as in he has no honor, no integrity, no patriotism, lives off .gov handouts, heroin addict, street corner beggar, thief, wifebeater, deadbeat dad, etc., etc. Not really SEAL material IMO.

AFA the "bar" SEALS, my wife and I saw this dude in a biker bar with a small SEAL patch on his cutoff, and I wouldn't doubt a thing he said, if he said anything about it at all. That man had the BIGGEST goddamn arms I've ever seen on a human, and his whole demeanor just reeked of a quiet, understated badass that could shit down your neck WITHOUT ripping your head off first. Didn't act like a badass, but you could tell he was not a man to trifle with. One of the biggest and most fit men I've ever seen. Very impressive.

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Originally Posted by Gcompact30

Ask him something only someone is Buds training or a Navy Seal would know :-)

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That's coming next time we BULLSHIT or grab a beer at the legion post (bold is the edit [ROFL1] [LOL])

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That's coming next time we BS or grab sheer at the legion post

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Grab Sheer? That fall under don't ask, don't tell[Beer]

I've run in to the I was XXX with XXXX and did XXX. I said to one guy, So you enlisted when you were14, considering that happened in 1974.
They are like gunophobs, easier to ignore then get the blood pressure up, dealing with them.

http://veriseal.org/about/

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

I'd just mention what class you were in and then nonchalantly ask him what class he was in. If he rattles it off right away, pretty easy to verify. If he stumbles about...well, you'll probably have your answer.

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When I mentioned what class I would have been in, that was when the reaction happened. My wife was right there and didnt notice the reaction. It was subtle but enough that I could tell I caught him off guard and startled him and after thinking this over a few times, I feel he knows I caught him.

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Originally Posted by Fentonite

Looks like that house attracts the scumbags.

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You haven't had scumbag neighbors till you have this thing roll up and then you hear someone yelling "FIRE IN THE HOLE"

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...0805091711.jpg

Ok, I’ve never been in the military but I have a huge amount of respect for those that have served. I may be completely off base but here are my thoughts.

I’ve never met anyone who volunteered that they were Special Operations or even mentioned it unless there was a deeper conversation going on with others in the group. If someone was a SEAL and liked to brag about it I doubt they would worry about making you feel uncomfortable. When you mentioned washing out I would also expect them to acknowledge how difficult BUD/S is and use that as a bonding opportunity. Sure they could be cool or an ass about it depending on their personality but it seems like something you’d want to talk about since so few people have any idea what you went through.

Just my thoughts.

Most of the SEALs I have met have been awful proud of being a SEAL.

One guy I worked with who was a consumate bullshit artist made the statement that he had gone through SEAL training.

I asked him how long it took him to learn to balance a ball on his nose.

He never said another word about his "Service life"......

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asked him how long it took him to learn to balance a ball on his nose

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[ROFL1]

I'm not a Navy SEAL, but I have been here...

http://www.navysealmuseum.com/



Interesting place to visit, I liked it much more than Disney World. They got a real cool midget submarine, looks like it has changed alot since I was there in 1986! Go visit it if you vacation in South Florida!

Maybe you're overreacting. Nothing you have said leads me to believe he is lying.

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Most of the SEALs I have met have been awful proud of being a SEAL.

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The legit ones I have met and a couple I worked with when I was in the Middle East,
didnt ever say squat about it.