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    Quote Originally Posted by SG1 View Post
    Never called you a coward...you are brave for make a choice, and following it..

    As for moving to other "free" states to "solidify our stance", its a great idea..but if back fires for a number of reasons. here a few.

    Free states will have a massive economical boom, higher standerd of living,cheap goods, more jobs, ect.

    the reason for this is pro free market principals, few regulations,low or few if any taxes, reapect and understand the 2nd amandment(there is no point in producing if you can not keep the fruits of your labor) ect

    Now lets compare this to other "Statist" states, with high taxes,few jobs,miles of red tape,higher crimes rates(and yet the toughtest gun laws) people in those states will have been so indoctronated in goverment run schools to be good little statist, maybe a few wake up, but most wont...they will want a better life..and they will move to the "free" states.

    Sadly they will vote the state way...bigger government,higher taxes,more rules and regulations, limiting our rights in the name of freedom(we are some what to blame..sitting around demending the NRA,GOA ect to fight our fights for us,backing down when they paint us as uncaring,racist ect, and voting in RINO`s ect)

    look at Texas right now, look at Floridia now, and look at the state of the state of Colorado, five years ago, do you think such bills would be more then words? the Statist spread and "reverse terraform" every area the moving into...and keep in mind even if those dont you have to work under the the growing weight of the federal government...which when you look at who the statist voters vote for and how the vote(who ever give me more and promise to do more for me and give me more) its easy to see how the statist in power get elected..

    Progressive Statism the system which in the last 100 years has given us such "wonderful" things like the 16th Amendment,Prohibition,The Federal Reseve,The National Firearms Act(which was thanks to Prohibition,ask the question why was the mob using them? why was their so much crime after Prohinition was pass and so little before and after it?)The Gold Confiscation Act, and much worse please google

    American progressive eugenics inspired the Nazi
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    The Rockefeller Foundation helped develop and fund various German eugenics programs, including the one that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.

    One of the things we can do is fix the schools, go from a statist ideaology to a pro-liberty one we can do this demanding and getting a school voucher system with this the we break the monopoloy of government run schools with the indocrontion machine FUBAR`ed we can pervent the pollution of young minds...

    If you think I am over-reaction to this please google "Give me a child when he's 7 and he's mine forever,"
    and look up what some kids are forced to do,say,and learn..."guns are bad" "we are killing the planet"
    "America is unfair and racist" "The Constitution is outdated,and has no meaning in todays America" its gets worse the higher in grades you go...and even worse in colleges.


    The other is Vote and RUN FOR OFFICE!!!!!...why not you? if Joe Biden can run for and hold any office..you can too..

    if you wish to move fine, but with a large amount of 3rd world immigration must of it socalist/statist, and failing education system(it is failing buy design) even states in the "American Redobut" will look like LA, poor,urban,crime ridden,statist hellholes..ruled by the elitist.

    the greatest tragedy is the loss of freedom.
    While I agree with much of what you say I disagree that moving to a state like Texas or FL will somehow make things worse. How would Colorado be today if more people like us had looked to us as a haven or Liberty and started relocating here? We wouldn't have the reps in office that we have today and therefore our numbers would be strengthened. There's a reason people are considering moving to Texas and other similar states. The more like-minded people who relocate within their borders the more the pudendum swings in the other direction. I could just as easily say that people who remain in states that have made it very clear they don't side with Liberty are doing more HARM than good by NOT relocating to a Liberty loving state to make a stand and an example of what freedom SHOULD look like. It's an interesting debate but for myself, I will fight for the state that I CHOSE and the state that I LOVE as long as I possibly can. When it gets to the point where I feel like I'm being criminalized for living my life as a free man I will not subject myself or my family to that sort of tyranny. You can stay and fight as the number of liberals grows and grows and I commend you for doing it but life is short and I'm growing tired of fighting and last I checked Texas was still in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Actually when the global economy crashes we'll probably have that second revolution here (or more likely several smaller secessionist wars around the country, so maybe in CO, maybe not). 'taint gonna be pretty though.


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    I'm sorry I am not a main contributor, blabbermouth, or armchair warrior, but I asked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    ALL states will eventually fall, IMO. Real patriots are up against an unstoppable monster. The only chance there is for this country to ever return to its original design would require a second Revolution. And there's a better chance of seeing God himself come with a bunch of pizzas than there is of a Revolution. This country is doomed, us peons don't have a chance against the Power Elite that are running things.
    they will fail...when gas is 6$ a gallon, or they buy a weeks worth of food becuase the money in your wallet is worth less then toilet paper, when things get bad people will awake and rise...hell we already are....they will lose we will win....no questions, no debates...we will win, liberty will be resotred, and the federal tyranny will end...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    While I agree with much of what you say I disagree that moving to a state like Texas or FL will somehow make things worse. How would Colorado be today if more people like us had looked to us as a haven or Liberty and started relocating here? We wouldn't have the reps in office that we have today and therefore our numbers would be strengthened. There's a reason people are considering moving to Texas and other similar states. The more like-minded people who relocate within their borders the more the pudendum swings in the other direction. I could just as easily say that people who remain in states that have made it very clear they don't side with Liberty are doing more HARM than good by NOT relocating to a Liberty loving state to make a stand and an example of what freedom SHOULD look like. It's an interesting debate but for myself, I will fight for the state that I CHOSE and the state that I LOVE as long as I possibly can. When it gets to the point where I feel like I'm being criminalized for living my life as a free man I will not subject myself or my family to that sort of tyranny. You can stay and fight as the number of liberals grows and grows and I commend you for doing it but life is short and I'm growing tired of fighting and last I checked Texas was still in the US.
    I mean Texas or FL are slowing turning into marxist(liberals are marxist please stop lying to your selves) states...you are right abour freeom loving patriots moving, but remember for every one that moves and votes...10 members of the Free Shit Army will move and vote....We will win in the long run...and the freedom loving patriots will never again be oppressed by Progressive Statistism.,,fight on sir I have your six..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jutt View Post
    I hear ya Ron. With the left controlling the schools, media, courts and political seats and perhaps more disheartening, a majority shift in our country's worldview that sees liberalism as a benefit to society, I'm afraid it will take some sort of event whether nature/act of God or otherwise to knock this country back to its core.
    I joke with my wife that in 30 years, I won't have to worry about retirement because I'll probably be locked away in some state funded gulag in Kansas.
    Well in order to win, we need to take back the schools....after the first one the rest are free, and you are right about some SHTF event that will cause the sheeple to wake up or starve to death...

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    It is sad. Gone are the days of asking what you can do for your country instead of what you're country can do for you.

    I will be here in 2014. Montana is my next stop.

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    Haha ya I'm not worried about stockpiling food. I have like a weeks worth. I have weapons so I can go and take lol. Plus I'm pretty sure if shit hit the fan, most of us on here would join together in a group. We'd be dangerous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeinhb View Post
    We'd be dangerous!
    the word you are looking for is effective, dangerous implies we are a threat, all we really want is to be left the hell alone and allowed to live our lives, unfortunately that doesn't look to be an option in the current climate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeinhb View Post
    Haha ya I'm not worried about stockpiling food. I have like a weeks worth. I have weapons so I can go and take lol. Plus I'm pretty sure if shit hit the fan, most of us on here would join together in a group. We'd be dangerous!
    This should be fun. I remember the last member that talked like that.
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