Senate Reached Bipartisan Deal on Background Checks

[wctriumph]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D296292

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) announced a deal on background checks for gun sales during a press conference on Wednesday.
The background check deal would expand the system to cover all commercial sales, such as at gun shows and online, the AP reports.
Two Senate aides with knowledge of the negotiations broke news of the deal Wednesday morning. The AP reports:

WASHINGTON — Two pivotal senators have announced a bipartisan deal on expanding background checks to more gun buyers. The agreement could build support for President Barack Obama's drive to curb firearms violence. Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Republican Sen. Patrick Toomey of Pennsylvania said their agreement would help keep firearms from criminals and the mentally ill.
The checks would now apply to commercial sales, such as transactions at gun shows and online. The sales would have to be channeled through licensed firearms dealers, who would have to keep records of the transactions.
Manchin said that since the slayings of school children and educators in Newtown, Conn., both sides in the gun debate must find common ground. Toomey said he considers expanded background checks common sense, not gun control.

Lets hope that the House does not do the same (I have a feeling that they will).

[losttrail]

BOHICA

[Teufelhund]

The checks would now apply to commercial sales, such as transactions at gun shows and online.

How is this different from the way it is today?

[Caithford]

How is this different from the way it is today?

That's my thought too? Gun show dealers already do BGC's, and purchasing online requires shipment to an FFL who must do a BGC IAW state laws to release the firearm to you. Maybe it's another "feel good" piece of legislation that doesn't actually do anything but shows their constituents they are "doing something." They need a law that wasting taxpayer dollars on worthless legislation should be a felony.

[Robb]

If this passes, no face-to-face in-state sales are legal anywhere in the country, unless it's between family members.

[Dave]

We already have to do BGC's for gun show sales here in CO, but in a lot of states you don't. Wonder what their definition of commercial gun sales will entail.

[Hound]

We already have to do BGC's for gun show sales here in CO, but in a lot of states you don't. Wonder what their definition of commercial gun sales will entail.

Yup

[clark]

This still has to go through the house and not sure how well it will be recieved though it will prob get through if this is all it has in it. Might get changed some and sent back to the senate.

[Zundfolge]

How is this different from the way it is today?

If I understand it correctly it would make the entire country the same as Colorado was before it passed this latest round of gun control laws.

Here in CO we're used to BG checks on sales between non FFLs at gun shows, but in much of the rest of the country gun shows are just like the forum here or Armslist.

I also believe the new law would require BG checks for local sales via Armslist and the forums if they make any money off advertising.

[Clint45]

im guessing online means armslist and forum sales.

If this passes, no face-to-face in-state sales are legal anywhere in the country, unless it's between family members.

Actually, it sounds like it only applies to COMMERCIAL sales. With the exception of C&R, which requires a federal license, black powder rifles, and antique rifles over 100 years old, all "internet sales" shipped through the mail already require transfer through a FFL.