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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I'd buy or sell a gun with my brother or uncle.
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    This is defacto registration via paper, inevitably BATFE will get caught compiling the data and some mid-level flunky will get 'reassigned'. But make no mistake, given that 4473s 'live' forever, this is the first step to a national database of gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    You ain't the brightest light in the knife drawer is you, boy?
    Explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liberty19 View Post
    This is defacto registration via paper, inevitably BATFE will get caught compiling the data and some mid-level flunky will get 'reassigned'. But make no mistake, given that 4473s 'live' forever, this is the first step to a national database of gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Explain.
    To say what Jim already said, I'm not going to sell a firearm to a family member... as gifts do not require a BGC, I'm glad my family has birthdays spread out throughout the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    To say what Jim already said, I'm not going to sell a firearm to a family member... as gifts do not require a BGC, I'm glad my family has birthdays spread out throughout the year.
    But that's not what the law says, which was my point. It will be illegal to sell a gun to your wife, brother or uncle without a BGC. I'm also concerned about the wording of "bona fide gift". Does Colorado law required documentation like the IRS does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    But that's not what the law says, which was my point. It will be illegal to sell a gun to your wife, brother or uncle without a BGC. I'm also concerned about the wording of "bona fide gift". Does Colorado law required documentation like the IRS does?
    AND WHO EXACTLY IS GOING TO SELL A GUN TO THEIR WIFE, OR FAMILY MEMBERTHIS is what i asked you. Which you seem to be missing the point of. HOW THE FUK WILL ANYONE KNOW WHAT YOUR FAMILY DOES OR DOES NOT HAVE IN THEIR POSSESSION????

    You going down to your local LGS and have your spouse or kid fill out a 4473?????? get with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    AND WHO EXACTLY IS GOING TO SELL A GUN TO THEIR WIFE, OR FAMILY MEMBERTHIS is what i asked you. Which you seem to be missing the point of. HOW THE FUK WILL ANYONE KNOW WHAT YOUR FAMILY DOES OR DOES NOT HAVE IN THEIR POSSESSION????

    You going down to your local LGS and have your spouse or kid fill out a 4473?????? get with it.

    You seem to miss my point: uncles and brothers count as close familty members, and I think it's reasonable to expect that one could expect to actually purchase or sell a firearm from a brother or uncle. Would I actually go to an FFL and do the form 4473? Likely not, but WILL BE THE LAW, which is the first point I made.
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    It is way worse than advertised...you can forget about every posting a firearm for sale or for want in any electronic or printed news media.

    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/tomme...gun-ban_042013

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ct_716249.html

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