Kevin Lundberg's News letter for those of you who do not get it

[buffalobo]

roberth,

Anybody have any confidence that a republican legislature would repeal this BS?

This statement was reference to the 2014 election. The jabber has been that we need to make sure R's get elected, if we do does anyone have confidence that they would repeal the recent legislation.

If the Republicans were in control of legislature this session this crap would not have passed.

Not sure how we got to talking two different scenarios.

BTW - bold only showed in phone in one post.

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[roberth]

roberth,

Anybody have any confidence that a republican legislature would repeal this BS?

This statement was reference to the 2014 election. The jabber has been that we need to make sure R's get elected, if we do does anyone have confidence that they would repeal the recent legislation.

Oh well that is different.

Given what I have seen from the current crop of (R) I'd say none of the legislation above or previous gun control legislation would have passed. The question remains, How do we beat Santa Claus with his bag of taxpayer funded gifts.

[Milt]

"Its always been clear that the government can take property for public use. The Constitution merely requires that they pay compensation."

Eminent domain is an immoral concept and is an excellent example of the 'slippery slope' in action. Your rightfully obtained property is yours, full stop, end of debate. If someone can 'legally' take it against your will, it is not yours. It makes no difference whether one person wants your property or 300 million people want it. This evil was instituted with 'good intentions', but it was wrong in principle and naturally morphed from facilitating road and canal building to stealing land for strip mall developers. Eminent domain is but one of many flaws in the Constitution.


"The question remains, How do we beat Santa Claus with his bag of taxpayer funded gifts"

The same way our ancestors got the British government off their backs...

[roberth]

"Its always been clear that the government can take property for public use. The Constitution merely requires that they pay compensation."

Eminent domain is an immoral concept and is an excellent example of the 'slippery slope' in action. Your rightfully obtained property is yours, full stop, end of debate. If someone can 'legally' take it against your will, it is not yours. It makes no difference whether one person wants your property or 300 million people want it. This evil was instituted with 'good intentions', but it was wrong in principle and naturally morphed from facilitating road and canal building to stealing land for strip mall developers. Eminent domain is but one of many flaws in the Constitution.


"The question remains, How do we beat Santa Claus with his bag of taxpayer funded gifts"

The same way our ancestors got the British government off their backs...

I have been thinking on this for a long time and I just don't see any other way to do it. There are other solutions but they require the government and citizens to completely revamp their thinking and that is definitely not going to happen.

[Bailey Guns]

I have been thinking on this for a long time and I just don't see any other way to do it. There are other solutions but they require the government and citizens to completely revamp their thinking and that is definitely not going to happen.

That's true. But what bothers me about that is when they decide to go full-on commie. With the current crop of elected officials and electorate I'd say that's a more logical progression than moving to the right and correcting the issues in a conservative sense.

Despite how bad it is now, it CAN get worse. I'm glad I'm not 25 and have to live my entire life watching the downfall of my country.

And seriously...how do we change it within the system? Can it even be done? You can vote for those that share you ideals, you can encourage and educate others to do the same, you can send letters, you can complain, you can sue in court, you can even run for office. When that fails, and we're still sliding downward, what then?

[Hound]

"Its always been clear that the government can take property for public use. The Constitution merely requires that they pay compensation."

Eminent domain is an immoral concept and is an excellent example of the 'slippery slope' in action. Your rightfully obtained property is yours, full stop, end of debate. If someone can 'legally' take it against your will, it is not yours. It makes no difference whether one person wants your property or 300 million people want it. This evil was instituted with 'good intentions', but it was wrong in principle and naturally morphed from facilitating road and canal building to stealing land for strip mall developers. Eminent domain is but one of many flaws in the Constitution.


"The question remains, How do we beat Santa Claus with his bag of taxpayer funded gifts"

The same way our ancestors got the British government off their backs...

There are reasons for eminent domain to be used but they are rare, very rare, and should be used with great exception. What is VERY concerning is giving this over to private companies, and foreign ones at that. It was never meant as part of capitalism.

[Rabid]

I think in my life time something will change. At some point the gov will go too far for most people and the country will be headed down a different track for awhile. I also wish people would realize nothing good comes from a liberal controlled state gov, just a bankrupted state and in turn more taxes.

[Milt]

"There are reasons for eminent domain to be used but they are rare, very rare, and should be used with great exception. What is VERY concerning is giving this over to private companies, and foreign ones at that. It was never meant as part of capitalism"

That is precisely the problem with 'compromising' your principles - it invariably leads to outrageous abuses. Principles are absolute or they are merely rough guidelines.

[jhood001]

I was just cold-called about SB-252. The guy went on a rant about how rural people are only currently required to have 10% renewable and 'it's time we tell them to step that up'. 'Can I connect you to your local legislator's office so that you can tell them you support this legislation'?

I told him he was more than welcome to put me through to their office because I was against the legislation and I would love to tell them all about it.

He said 'okay, if you'll just hold a minute'

::click::

Where does the money come from to pay people to go down a list of suburban residents and cold call them so that they can get them to shit on their rural brothers? We had the entire 'gun lobby' in our corner and I didn't hear of a single call tactic like this used. Just where is the money coming from for this?

[Rucker61]

I was just cold-called about SB-252. The guy went on a rant about how rural people are only currently required to have 10% renewable and 'it's time we tell them to step that up'. 'Can I connect you to your local legislator's office so that you can tell them you support this legislation'?

I told him he was more than welcome to put me through to their office because I was against the legislation and I would love to tell them all about it.

He said 'okay, if you'll just hold a minute'

::click::

Where does the money come from to pay people to go down a list of suburban residents and cold call them so that they can get them to shit on their rural brothers? We had the entire 'gun lobby' in our corner and I didn't hear of a single call tactic like this used. Just where is the money coming from for this?

The patchouli lobby.