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    "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    The primary state statute dealing with bikes is this one:
    § 42-4-1412. Operation of bicycles and other human-powered vehicles


    1. Every person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall have all of the rights and duties applicable to the driver of any other vehicle under this article, except as to special regulations in this article and except as to those provisions which by their nature can have no application. Said riders shall comply with the rules set forth in this section and section 42-4-221, and, when using streets and highways within incorporated cities and towns, shall be subject to local ordinances regulating the operation of bicycles and electrical assisted bicycles as provided in section 42-4-111.
    2. It is the intent of the general assembly that nothing contained in House Bill No. 1246, enacted at the second regular session of the fifty-sixth general assembly, shall in any way be construed to modify or increase the duty of the department of transportation or any political subdivision to sign or maintain highways or sidewalks or to affect or increase the liability of the state of Colorado or any political subdivision under the “Colorado Governmental Immunity Act”, article 10 of title 24, C.R.S.
    3. No bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall be used to carry more persons at one time than the number for which it is designed or equipped.
    4. No person riding upon any bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall attach the same or himself or herself to any motor vehicle upon a roadway.

      1. Any person operating a bicycle or an electrical assisted bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic shall ride in the right-hand lane, subject to the following conditions:
        1. If the right-hand lane then available for traffic is wide enough to be safely shared with overtaking vehicles, a bicyclist shall ride far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of such overtaking vehicles unless other conditions make it unsafe to do so
        2. A bicyclist may use a lane other than the right-hand lane when:
          1. Preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private roadway or driveway;
          2. Overtaking a slower vehicle; or
          3. Taking reasonably necessary precautions to avoid hazards or road conditions.

        3. Upon approaching an intersection where right turns are permitted and there is a dedicated right-turn lane, a bicyclist may ride on the left-hand portion of the dedicated right-turn lane even if the bicyclist does not intend to turn right.

      2. A bicyclist shall not be expected or required to:
        1. Ride over or through hazards at the edge of a roadway, including but not limited to fixed or moving objects, parked or moving vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or narrow lanes; or
        2. Ride without a reasonable safety margin on the right-hand side of the roadway.

      3. A person operating a bicycle or an electrical assisted bicycle upon a one-way roadway with two or more marked traffic lanes may ride as near to the left-hand curb or edge of such roadway as judged safe by the bicyclist, subject to the following conditions:
        1. If the left-hand lane then available for traffic is wide enough to be safely shared with overtaking vehicles, a bicyclist shall ride far enough to the left as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of such overtaking vehicles unless other conditions make it unsafe to do so.
        2. A bicyclist shall not be expected or required to:
          1. Ride over or through hazards at the edge of a roadway, including but not limited to fixed or moving objects, parked or moving vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or narrow lanes; or
          2. Ride without a reasonable safety margin on the right-hand side of the roadway.




      1. Persons riding bicycles or electrical assisted bicycles upon a roadway shall not ride more than two abreast except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles.
      2. Persons riding bicycles or electrical assisted bicycles two abreast shall not impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic and, on a laned roadway, shall ride within a single lane.

    5. A person operating a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall keep at least one hand on the handlebars at all times.

      1. A person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle intending to turn left shall follow a course described in sections 42-4-901(1), 42-4-903, and 42-4-1007 or may make a left turn in the manner prescribed in paragraph (b) of this subsection (8).
      2. A person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle intending to turn left shall approach the turn as closely as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway. After proceeding across the intersecting roadway to the far corner of the curb or intersection of the roadway edges, the bicyclist shall stop, as much as practicable, out of the way of traffic. After stopping, the bicyclist shall yield to any traffic proceeding in either direction along the roadway that the bicyclist had been using. After yielding and complying with any official traffic control device or police officer regulating traffic on the highway along which the bicyclist intends to proceed, the bicyclist may proceed in the new direction.
      3. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) of this subsection (8), the transportation commission and local authorities in their respective jurisdictions may cause official traffic control devices to be placed on roadways and thereby require and direct that a specific course be traveled.


      1. Except as otherwise provided in this subsection (9), every person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall signal the intention to turn or stop in accordance with section 42-4-903; except that a person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle may signal a right turn with the right arm extended horizontally.
      2. A signal of intention to turn right or left when required shall be given continuously during not less than the last one hundred feet traveled by the bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle before turning and shall be given while the bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle is stopped waiting to turn. A signal by hand and arm need not be given continuously if the hand is needed in the control or operation of the bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle.


      1. A person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle upon and along a sidewalk or pathway or across a roadway upon and along a crosswalk shall yield the right-of-way to any pedestrian and shall give an audible signal before overtaking and passing such pedestrian. A person riding a bicycle in a crosswalk shall do so in a manner that is safe for pedestrians.
      2. A person shall not ride a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle upon and along a sidewalk or pathway or across a roadway upon and along a crosswalk where such use of bicycles or electrical assisted bicycles is prohibited by official traffic control devices or local ordinances. A person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall dismount before entering any crosswalk where required by official traffic control devices or local ordinances.
      3. A person riding or walking a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle upon and along a sidewalk or pathway or across a roadway upon and along a crosswalk shall have all the rights and duties applicable to a pedestrian under the same circumstances, including, but not limited to, the rights and duties granted and required by section 42-4-802.
      4. Deleted by Laws 2005, Ch. 301, § 1, eff. July 1, 2005.


      1. A person may park a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle on a sidewalk unless prohibited or restricted by an official traffic control device or local ordinance.
      2. A bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle parked on a sidewalk shall not impede the normal and reasonable movement of pedestrian or other traffic.
      3. A bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle may be parked on the road at any angle to the curb or edge of the road at any location where parking is allowed.
      4. A bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle may be parked on the road abreast of another such bicycle or bicycles near the side of the road or any location where parking is allowed in such a manner as does not impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.
      5. In all other respects, bicycles or electrical assisted bicycles parked anywhere on a highway shall conform to the provisions of part 12 of this article regulating the parking of vehicles.


      1. Any person who violates any provision of this section commits a class 2 misdemeanor traffic offense; except that section 42-2-127 shall not apply.
      2. Any person riding a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle who violates any provision of this article other than this section which is applicable to such a vehicle and for which a penalty is specified shall be subject to the same specified penalty as any other vehicle; except that section 42-2-127 shall not apply.

    6. Upon request, the law enforcement agency having jurisdiction shall complete a report concerning an injury or death incident that involves a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle on the roadways of the state, even if such accident does not involve a motor vehicle.
    7. Except as authorized by section 42-4-111, the rider of an electrical assisted bicycle shall not use the electrical motor on a bike or pedestrian path.

    I have always thought that three feet was the minimum safe distance for a motor vehicle driver to give a cyclist when passing. Fortunately for cyclists, in Colorado its the law!
    § 42-4-1003. Overtaking a vehicle on the left
    1. The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to the limitations, exceptions, and special rules stated in this section and sections 42-4-1004 to 42-4-1008:
      1. The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left of the vehicle at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle
      2. The driver of a motor vehicle overtaking a bicyclist proceeding in the same direction shall allow the bicyclist at least a three-foot separation between the right side of the driver's vehicle, including all mirrors or other projections, and the left side of the bicyclist at all times.
      3. Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase the speed of the driver's vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.

    2. Any person who violates any provision of this section commits a class A traffic infraction.

    If you ride between sunset and sunrise, both safety considerations and the law require the following:
    § 42-4-204. When lighted lamps are required
    1. Every vehicle upon a highway within this state, between sunset and sunrise and at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavorable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of one thousand feet ahead, shall display lighted lamps and illuminating devices as required by this article for different classes of vehicles, subject to exceptions with respect to parked vehicles.
    2. Whenever requirement is declared by this article as to distance from which certain lamps and devices shall render objects visible or within which such lamps or devices shall be visible, said provisions shall apply during the times stated in subsection (1) of this section in respect to a vehicle without load when upon a straight, level, unlighted highway under normal atmospheric conditions, unless a different time or condition is expressly stated.
    3. Whenever requirement is declared by this article as to the mounted height of lamps or devices, it shall mean from the center of such lamp or device to the level ground upon which the vehicle stands when such vehicle is without a load.
    4. Any person who violates any provision of this section commits a class A traffic infraction.

    And the following is what the law requires for lights and reflectors - it might surprise you!
    § 42-4-221. Bicycle and personal mobility device equipment
    1. No other provision of this part 2 and no provision of part 3 of this article shall apply to a bicycle, electrical assisted bicycle, or EPAMD or to equipment for use on a bicycle, electrical assisted bicycle, or EPAMD except those provisions in this article made specifically applicable to such a vehicle.
    2. Every bicycle, electrical assisted bicycle, or EPAMD in use at the times described in section 42-4-204 shall be equipped with a lamp on the front emitting a white light visible from a distance of at least five hundred feet to the front.
    3. Every bicycle, electrical assisted bicycle, or EPAMD shall be equipped with a red reflector of a type approved by the department, which shall be visible for six hundred feet to the rear when directly in front of lawful lower beams of head lamps on a motor vehicle.
    4. Every bicycle, electrical assisted bicycle, or EPAMD when in use at the times described in section 42-4-204 shall be equipped with reflective material of sufficient size and reflectivity to be visible from both sides for six hundred feet when directly in front of lawful lower beams of head lamps on a motor vehicle or, in lieu of such reflective material, with a lighted lamp visible from both sides from a distance of at least five hundred feet.
    5. A bicycle, electrical assisted bicycle, or EPAMD or its rider may be equipped with lights or reflectors in addition to those required by subsections (2) to (4) of this section.
    6. A bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall not be equipped with, nor shall any person use upon a bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle, any siren or whistle.
    7. Every bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle shall be equipped with a brake or brakes that will enable its rider to stop the bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle within twenty-five feet from a speed of ten miles per hour on dry, level, clean pavement.
    8. A person engaged in the business of selling bicycles or electrical assisted bicycles at retail shall not sell any bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle unless the bicycle or electrical assisted bicycle has an identifying number permanently stamped or cast on its frame.
    9. Any person who violates any provision of this section commits a class B traffic infraction.

    If you are riding where it is permissible to ride on the sidewalk, and are crossing at a crosswalk, the following statute applies:
    § 42-4-802. Pedestrians' right-of-way in crosswalks
    1. When traffic control signals are not in place or not in operation, the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way, slowing down or stopping if need be to so yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a crosswalk when the pedestrian is upon the half of the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling or when the pedestrian is approaching so closely from the opposite half of the roadway as to be in danger.
    2. No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and ride a bicycle, ride an electrical assisted bicycle, walk, or run into the path of a moving vehicle that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.

    State Statutes can be superseded by municipal ordinances when it comes to bicycles. It is important to know the ordinances of the community in which you live or ride. Urge your local law makers to simply conform to state statute on issues relating to bicycles!
    § 42-4-111. Powers of local authorities
    1. This article shall not be deemed to prevent local authorities, with respect to streets and highways under their jurisdiction and within the reasonable exercise of the police power, except those streets and highways that are parts of the state highway system that are subject to section 43-2-135, C.R.S., from:
      (h) Regulating the operation of bicycles or electrical assisted bicycles and requiring the registration and licensing of same, including the requirement of a registration fee, consistent with the provisions of this article;

    "........and knowing is half the battle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Good point, I hadn't thought of that. Is it a big enough issue that cyclists need to ride ON the white line or in the driving lane?

    In some spots it is, sometimes it isn't. Some spots actually have chatter strips on the right, others have a lot of ground glass and whatnot. Even dust can suck. OTOH, sometimes it is pretty clear and cyclists are just being oblivious or intentional dicks about it. I can't condone that.

    Of the canyons mentioned - my favorite canyon is Golden Gate, just because of geographic proximity to my house. There is no shoulder on that the entire way from 93 to 119, but it also isn't heavily traveled, so taking that balance I use it a lot. I try to ride just to the left of the white line there, but on the downhills, I'll take the middle if I'm doing the speed limit or better. If there are cars behind me, I hug as close as I can and try to wave them by if I have better view ahead than they do. FWIW, I've had minimal drama up there and I've been riding it for years. Also, FWIW, heavy trucks are never scary to me, you can hear them forever and get over - it is the "superbikers" who think GGC is Isle of Man TT or something that scare me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    From what I understand from limited reading of the laws they are considered a vehicle and are supposed to follow the same rules as a car, signals, etc. so they can legally be in the same drive lanes for a care such as a left turning lane.

    With a key note of not "Impeding" regular traffic.
    Bikes should share. With the most extreme of caution I'll "lane split" -but in a way to make my intentions obvious - and you hit on the when it happens. Turn lanes and what-not.
    In the the case of a left, I'll (personally) share the left turn lane, but being on the right side of the left-turning car. I'm going to go slower (theoretically, if not always in practice), I want to be farthest out so I hit the bike lane on the cross street to the left of us. In the case of an intersection where there are two forward lanes (one for left, and a shared for right/straight), I'll share the right lane but be to the outside (left side) of it when I'm going straight so I don't get run over by a car going right. I'll carefully go straight and get over to the right when I can. Double left? -Really not a good spot for bikes. Find a better way.

    But the point is, you also can't be cruising over onto the sidewalks and navigating intersections like a pedestrian either. Just be careful, obvious, and signal to everyone. I don't know that I've ever got yelled at in one of these cases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202 View Post
    Scooters fall under motorized bicycles and are not legal to be in zones above 35mph
    I can't comment on scooters at all, but I'm not sure about this 35mph thing and bikes. In fact, I'm sure opposite.
    A great example is I-70 between the Buffalo overlook/Genessee Park and Chief Hosa or whatever in Evergreen. This little stretch of interstate (!) is bicycle legal and marked as such.
    That is for the most special of occasions only. I've only done this a handful of times in my life and don't really advise it for cyclists.
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    I don't mind bikers at all, but since I am paying my registration and tax that fund the road, I think I should have the right away.
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    Bicyclists can fuck off. Ignorant and arrogant assholes who believe they own the road. This is a common mentality, all though not all encompassing. I'm sorry but you are on the road that is paid for with my vehicle registration fees and gas tax money. If they start plating bikes and making them have turn signals and lights where they are more visible and restricting the roads they can be on due to speeds then they are more than welcome. Oh...and they need to follow the same driving laws...like stopping at stop signs and signaling turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    I don't mind bikers at all, but since I am paying my registration and tax that fund the road, I think I should have the right away.
    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I'm sorry but you are on the road that is paid for with my vehicle registration fees and gas tax money.

    Right? Totally!

    It's like I'm totally sure none of these cyclists own other vehicles! And those that do certainly never pay for gasoline and diesel, because you can always tell the vehicles that are run on 100% pure smugness!

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    Oh boy, another "us v.s. them" thread. Whoopty fawking do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Right? Totally!

    It's like I'm totally sure none of these cyclists own other vehicles! And those that do certainly never pay for gasoline and diesel, because you can always tell the vehicles that are run on 100% pure smugness!
    So you are telling me since I pay for plates on the new truck that I Dont have to pay for my Tahoe, wife's SUV, 3 trailers, boat, and motorcycle? I mean come on...I already pay to use the road for one...this one should be free right....

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    Boy I wish someone would make some sort of paved path that I can drive my Cummins on like the do for my sweet schwin 10 speed....... Oh wait they do it's called a Fu@kin road!!!!!!!

    Heck maybe I'll just share the bike path on my way to work and drive my 9,200 lb truck on it that would be even awesomer!!!!! And yes I wear my sweet schwin 10 speed helmet while I drive my truck... Everyone just go outside and play today it's sunny...
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