DOMA/Prop 8 decisions

[Madeinhb]

The fight is for rights. Civil unions can have the same rights as marriage. But that's not what they are fighting. They are arguing over a damn word.

[Madeinhb]

What boat did he miss? They are fighting for the right to be equal and yes that is a right. Once that issue is off the table they very well may vote with the conservatives, i know a few that are business owners and have the same economic views as i do. Do not make this a political battle. It is quite small mined to think of it that way.

Gay marriage, Two consenting adults whose actions hurt nobody. Dog fighting, two consenting adults that force an animal that can not think or help them self's, into danger. Child marriage, like dog fighting it is two consenting adults that force two children that can not fight for or help them self's into a bad situation. Polygamy, if you want to put your self through that hell go for it! I am almost positive they were anti Mormon laws in the first place. Dog fighting and child marriage are not moral issues. They hurt someone or something that can not think or help them self's.

It is amazing how hard wired it is in most of us to dislike or be disgusted by the action of gays. That is not a bad thing because we are hard wired to procreate. However i can not discriminate against them because of this. No one is getting hurt by their actions, only an un-easy feeling. How can we as a people whom live under the Constitution and the bill of rights treat anyone that is doing no harm to those around them any less equality?

And you yourself just said that child marriage shouldn't happen because your forcing children to do it. But that's their culture and you are trying to put your morals and culture on them. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with child marriages either. But it's not my place to tell another culture how to live. You yourself say no but people can't say it about gay marriage. That's hypocritical also

[Jumpstart]

Homosexuals have EXACTLY the same rights as everyone else and that includes marriage. They want special privileges, just like if they are attacked and someone utters a homosexual slur, now it is not just a crime, now it is a "hate crime" with added penalties. Do heterosexuals get this same privilege?

[DavieD55]

The gov/state should not be involved in any marriage.

[Rabid]

And I guess this is ok also. http://standupforthetruth.com/2013/0...-presentation/

Are they two consenting adults, no. I do not think that was a proper think for the school to ask of.

I am with you as i said already it is about that one word. Again, we either need to accept that it is a word with a different meaning when it comes from the government or we need to change the word on the license. Separate but equal does not apply anymore so we have to have one or the other and get over it or not have them at all in the governments eyes.

The gov/state should not be involved in any marriage.

^This!

[Rabid]

And you yourself just said that child marriage shouldn't happen because your forcing children to do it. But that's their culture and you are trying to put your morals and culture on them. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with child marriages either. But it's not my place to tell another culture how to live. You yourself say no but people can't say it about gay marriage. That's hypocritical also

No idea what culture you are talking about but i was talking about consent not my morals.

[spyder]

Ummm you missed the boat.

Not even close. It's plain and simply people being pissy and controlling because they don't like, or agree with what another person believes in. That is the plain and simple argument. I'm not going to hide behind the "constitution" or any other word to make an argument better. Trying to take someone's right to do anything away, is the same damn thing across any board. This is where hypocrisy starts......

What boat did he miss?

? Beats me....

[Madeinhb]

Are they two consenting adults, no. I do not think that was a proper think for the school to ask of.

I am with you as i said already it is about that one word. Again, we either need to accept that it is a word with a different meaning when it comes from the government or we need to change the word on the license. Separate but equal does not apply anymore so we have to have one or the other and get over it or not have them at all in the governments eyes.


^This!

Exactly, for government change it to civil unions. Let marriage stay as a religious thing. If you get married in a church, you still have to apply for a civil union license.

[spyder]

If you are an advocate of the second amendment, and believe that no one should be able to tell you what to do because they simply believe something different than you. You need to shut the fuck up in this thread, or your a hypocrite. Plain and simple. Hiding behind rules, books, or any other thing to promote your shit makes you a coward. Especially since most of what people hide behind, tell them to shut the hell up and let someone else decide anyway... hypocrites........

[Madeinhb]

If you are an advocate of the second amendment, and believe that no one should be able to tell you what to do because they simply believe something different than you. You need to shut the fuck up in this thread, or your a hypocrite. Plain and simple. Hiding behind rules, books, or any other thing to promote your shit makes you a coward. Especially since most of what people hide behind, tell them to shut the hell up and let someone else decide anyway... hypocrites........

Umm for arguments sake, the second amendment is a right given to us by the constitution and bill of rights. Marriage is not a right listed in either. Can't compare the two.