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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    What about 18 year olds?
    Yes, I would suggest that you worry about them too.

    in general, I'm not worried about anyone of any age being about to take me down and ground and pound me. If i get jumped and knocked out with one punch, I wouldn't have needed a gun anyways. If someone unarmed wants to fight, or kill me, I won't say that I'm going to win decisively, just that they're not going to do to me what Trayvonn did to Zimmerman. I won't need a gun to walk away with my life.

    ETA - I'm not saying all of this to brag. I never talk about my wrestling career. But you said lots of 17 year olds would beat my ass. I happen to have some evidence that isn't true.

    I do not carry my gun to protect myself against unarmed people. Zimmerman would be fucked if he was an outstanding wrestler, because the jury would never believe that Trayvonn took him down and was beating him in a way that he was scared for his life. You don't think that would come up as evidence? I wouldn't believe Zimmerman. The only reason his story makes sense is because its easy to believe that a 17 year old whomped his fat ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    Yes, I would suggest that you worry about them too.

    in general, I'm not worried about anyone of any age being about to take me down and ground and pound me. If i get jumped and knocked out with one punch, I wouldn't have needed a gun anyways. If someone unarmed wants to fight, or kill me, I won't say that I'm going to win decisively, just that they're not going to do to me what Trayvonn did to Zimmerman. I won't need a gun to walk away with my life.

    ETA - I'm not saying all of this to brag. I never talk about my wrestling career. But you said lots of 17 year olds would beat my ass. I happen to have some evidence that isn't true.

    I do not carry my gun to protect myself against unarmed people. Zimmerman would be fucked if he was an outstanding wrestler, because the jury would never believe that Trayvonn took him down and was beating him in a way that he was scared for his life. You don't think that would come up as evidence? I wouldn't believe Zimmerman. The only reason his story makes sense is because its easy to believe that a 17 year old whomped his fat ass.
    i guess you have not been in a real street fight . just to let you know , nobody has a time out , there are no rules , no referee or judges , no body is gonna pull the 17 year old off you even if he beating your brains out with a brick ! greasing yourself up and rolling around with other dudes on a mat is a far cry from the reality of the street .

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    Quote Originally Posted by alxone View Post
    i guess you have not been in a real street fight . just to let you know , nobody has a time out , there are no rules , no referee or judges , no body is gonna pull the 17 year old off you even if he beating your brains out with a brick ! greasing yourself up and rolling around with other dudes on a mat is a far cry from the reality of the street .
    Ok, I wrestled from age 5 until through my first couple years in college. Never once did I "grease myself up". I've also been had more scraps in my life than I care to admit given where we grew up. Alx.....there is/was a strong correlation between being able to fight and wrestling ( take note parents ). Wrestling is not about who's form is prettiest or what color belts you've obtained. It's straight mano y mano every time. It's about learning how to train relentlessly, fighting when you no longer have anything left and attacking when you sense weakness. You learn how to bleed....a lot, and that a shot to the head or face isn't gonna kill you. Most importantly what it's like to loose all by yourself. I'm a firm believer that kids need to learn the taste of a loss and hate it before they can ever truly become a champion. Most fights or otherwise aren't 2 guys holding their hands up and squaring up like a 1920's movie. There is usually alcohol, a woman or some other stupid catalyst involved and they happen in violent bursts. I'll take the guy who can keep control, take a shot a shot in the face and keep moving any day over black belt earned next to King Soupers. In my life I've observed more people taking flight than fight. Then again when I was younger fighting was a right of passage.....nowadays it gets you shot. What were we taking about again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMAC757 View Post
    Ok, I wrestled from age 5 until through my first couple years in college. Never once did I "grease myself up". I've also been had more scraps in my life than I care to admit given where we grew up. Alx.....there is/was a strong correlation between being able to fight and wrestling ( take note parents ). Wrestling is not about who's form is prettiest or what color belts you've obtained. It's straight mano y mano every time. It's about learning how to train relentlessly, fighting when you longer have anything left and attacking when you sense weakness. You learn how to bleed....a lot, and that a shot to the head or face isn't gonna kill you. Most importantly what it's like to loose all by yourself. I'm a firm believer that kids need to learn the taste of a loss and hate it before they can ever truly become a champion. Most fights or otherwise aren't 2 guys holding their hands up and squaring up like a 1920's movie. There is usually alcohol, a woman or some other stupid catalyst involved and they happen in violent bursts. I'll take the guy who can keep control, take a shot a shot in the face and keep moving any day over black belt earned next to King Soupers. In my life I've observed more taking flight than fight. Then again when I was younger fighting was a right of passage.....nowadays it gets you shot. What were we taking about again?
    i never wrestled but i did grow up in 5 points and downtown baltimore and fighting has always been something that can get you shot where im from . never seen a fair fight in my life nor have i been in fair fight. i just think its a bit naive to think because you can wrestle that you cant get beat up by hoodlums .

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    Quote Originally Posted by alxone View Post
    i never wrestled but i did grow up in 5 points and downtown baltimore and fighting has always been something that can get you shot where im from . never seen a fair fight in my life nor have i been in fair fight. i just think its a bit naive to think because you can wrestle that you cant get beat up by hoodlums .
    I grew up in an inner city as well Alex and there is a clear distinction between "getting beat up" and being able to handle yourself. I was jumped more than once as a kid. Had the hell kicked out me a few times but was no worse for the wear. Believe it or not I got in more fights when my parents decided to move us to a mostly white, blue collar suburb outside the city for the first time. Being the first "mixed" kid in the neihborhood honed my fighting skills quickly. This is another reason why a lot of your ( not yours individually, but a large consensus on this site ) arguments make me laugh when it comes to one race attacking another disproportionally. As a kid I was on the other side of that too many times. My dad was "old school" as in handle your sh!t and don't come home crying "old school".
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    Any chance we could open a separate thread for the wrestling guys and keep this one on Zimmerman's trial?

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    Okay, point of disagreement on the riot aspect of things... Yes, the King Riots in the 1990's was mostly "urban" youth destroying their own neighborhoods... yes, if Zimmerman is found not guilty I honestly believe there will be some anger that gets it's muzzle directed at anything in particular and riots could ensue. But that Wild Bill For America video is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Apparently "Bill" has never seen what CSU students under the influence of alcohol can do when things get out of hand (Hint: the majority were white), or what excited sports fans (hockey in particular) in Denver after their team wins the Stanley Cup, or in Vancouver when their team loses in the fight for the cup- again, both mostly white. Riots are not race exclusive. However, riots like this (the possible Zimmerman riot(s)) are usually stupid exclusive. What I mean is, it's mostly people who cannot accept rule of law and the decisions of our less-than-perfect justice system. Instead of realizing that the fate of George Zimmerman has nothing to do with their own lives, they take up an excuse to go "Hulk smash" things because dammit, they're pissed off. Riots or not, if he's found not guilty, he's still guilty thanks to the court of public opinion- and dipshits like Barry Sotoro-Obama, Jamie Foxx, Al Sharpton, et al. for already finding him guilty before charges could even be filed.

    ETA: I wrestled in HS, for two years- just because I did that in my past doesn't make me a badass fighter. "Oh yeah, I boxed when I was 16, no matter that I'm 30 now and haven't boxed a day since, but I can still kick anyone's ass!" <-Sounds stupid, huh? Oh and wrestling isn't this "gay" sport where you're rolling around in spandex with another man... if so then UFC is also pretty gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Oh and wrestling isn't this "gay" sport where you're rolling around in spandex with another man... if so then UFC is also pretty gay.
    It's not?


    Ufc seems pretty gay to me two men rolling around together wearing the tightest clothes they can find trying to put the other one in a "rear naked choke"

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