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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff350 View Post
    I think this whole debacle should serve as a reminder/warning to those of us who carry: unless it directly involves the safety of you and yours, keep your nose (and your gun) out of it. We all want to have our communities back, but NEWSFLASH! your community will not have your back. It sucks to say but that is the reality of our country today.

    Also, learn to fight. If GZ knew a simple mount escape we probably wouldn't even be talking about this.

    Really, learn to fight? Any specific style you'd like everyone to be proficient in? Should i start some MMA basics, ken po, judo, karate, krav maga. What in your infinite wisdom should "I" become master of?

    How about those in wheel chairs and walkers, carrying oxygen, the blind, paraplegic's etc? Not everyone is an able bodied man or woman.

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    So he killed a person and can walk free?
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    you just will not stop trolling this site huh?????
    You've seen this idiots other posts also huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    You've seen this idiots other posts also huh?
    He's sure trying to troll the place hard. In the course of just a few minutes he's racking up the post count, trying to leave a mark before the banhammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Really, learn to fight? Any specific style you'd like everyone to be proficient in? Should i start some MMA basics, ken po, judo, karate, krav maga. What in your infinite wisdom should "I" become master of?

    How about those in wheel chairs and walkers, carrying oxygen, the blind, paraplegic's etc? Not everyone is an able bodied man or woman.

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    Geez, I didn't think that would be that controversial of a topic. Sorry to have offended you.

    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Really, learn to fight? Any specific style you'd like everyone to be proficient in? Should i start some MMA basics, ken po, judo, karate, krav maga. What in your infinite wisdom should "I" become master of?

    How about those in wheel chairs and walkers, carrying oxygen, the blind, paraplegic's etc? Not everyone is an able bodied man or woman.

    Mount this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff350 View Post
    Geez, I didn't think that would be that controversial of a topic. Sorry to have offended you.
    Not offended just amazed at your Learn to fight statement. Yet instead of answering my ?? You offer an apology. Weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Not offended just amazed at your Learn to fight statement. Yet instead of answering my ?? You offer an apology. Weak.
    I was trying not to provoke you and further derail this thread.

    Obviously I don't think that people on oxygen need to be kickboxing, or paraplegics need to be perfecting their trap and roll. And yes, I do think that able bodied men that carry guns would be well served to learn some fighting basics.

    For the record, I believe that GZ should be acquitted. He was obviously acting in self defense against a thug out looking for a fight.

    Can we not agree that GZ (an able bodied man) would have been better off if he were able to scramble out from under TM? That seems obvious to me, but maybe my post count is too low to have a valid opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff350 View Post
    I was trying not to provoke you and further derail this thread.

    Obviously I don't think that people on oxygen need to be kickboxing, or paraplegics need to be perfecting their trap and roll. And yes, I do think that able bodied men that carry guns would be well served to learn some fighting basics.

    For the record, I believe that GZ should be acquitted. He was obviously acting in self defense against a thug out looking for a fight.

    Can we not agree that GZ (an able bodied man) would have been better off if he were able to scramble out from under TM? That seems obvious to me, but maybe my post count is too low to have a valid opinion.
    Agree to a point. I've seen the smallest person overcome the biggest one on the block. Personally had he stayed put, this may or may not have happened.
    With that being said, no matter how good or bad a shape he was or should have been in. The Lynch Mob mentality of this administration, the DOJ and usual bomb throwers puts this country in a very precarious position.

    What better way to advance gun control than with Z's prosecution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff350 View Post
    And yes, I do think that able bodied men that carry guns would be well served to learn some fighting basics.
    This I can go with, your previous statement about how we all (able bodied men, thanks for that correction) should learn how to fight is just an asinine argument. Yes learning a martial art is beneficial and a very healthy option (good workout!), but it is just that, a good idea, not everyone should be expected to be a "fighter" and not everyone should be expected to learn some basics. Some don't due to personal, financial, and time reasons, among others, and that's why many carry guns, to defend themselves because fighting just isn't an option, or they perhaps never want to get into a fight -well no one should want to get into a fight- I sure don't, and I know a bit more than just the basics and don't care to ever have to use that knowledge/skill.
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