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    Quote Originally Posted by akumadiavolo View Post
    I am going to have to disagree with most gun owners on this. It is very much the doctors job and business to know about any potential risks to the baby or any other patient. If you want a doctor to "mind their own business" and not care about the child head down to Tijuana and get the baby delivered behind a taco stand for 15 bucks with a 20 dollar purchase.

    Also I think the fact that people feel the need to lie to their doctor about something like gun ownership means either you are ashamed of your guns, or you don't trust your doctor. Either way it's time to make a change.
    Considering the government now has access to your medical records thru obamacare, this is just another attempt to create a list of gun owners.AND this is being done at the recommendation of the government. Something that should NEVER occur. I would suggest you re-examine your stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scogin View Post
    Ask her to give you the gonnorhea/chlamydia test. Here is how my first went.
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    Doc - "I don't want you to hit me. This is gonna hurt."
    Me - "Crap"
    Doc - "This cotton swap goes down the hole"
    Me - "Crap"
    Doc - "Make sure you pee not long after this so you don't scab up too much inside"
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    Default The wife is clueless.

    If my wife told me that guns in my home can affect the social development of our child I'd ask her how she thinks divorce is going to affect the social development of our child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraven251 View Post
    I appreciate all the responses. I am normally a pretty chill kinda guy, but that really rubbed me the wrong way. I am hopeful that those of you that have said it is a post partum thing are right and she understands that while I don't ask much, but when I ask it is for damn good reason.
    I think you're right to be angry.

    A man's job is to defend his family. If she wants to take on that role, then she can go around blabbing about your guns to anyone she'd like. Until then, she needs to respect your domain.

    So since she's violated that line, why don't you find a pediatrician that doesn't play nice with the statist agenda. Mine is in Parker (quick drive on C/E470), he's never asked such a stupid question.

    To the posters who think this is okay... A better question is "do you or any other family members have a swimming pool?" Because a child is more than six times as likely to drown than be killed by a firearm. Or 40x more likely to die in a car accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Fair enough. But it only follows that it's the doctor's job to have the facts...not made up leftist nonsense. If doctor's looked at the facts regarding firearms in the home instead of relying on information from "Brady" and other anti-gun sources who frequently categorize people up to 24 years of age as "children", they'd probably realize this was a useless question. From John Lott and the FBI UCR (2010...latest data available): This has nothing to do with doctors not caring for children. A doctor can provide any care necessary to a child without asking this question. Resorting to ridiculous "taco stand" comments shows you're attempting to base an argument on emotion rather than fact and logic. ZERO credibility here and it proves you haven't given this issue any serious thought. It has nothing to do with being ashamed of guns. It has to do with how guns are vilified by the left and by those that don't know any better in today's society. If a doctor approached the issue by saying, "Mr Jones, I'd like to ask a personal question. Do you have firearms in the home? If so, I just want to ensure you understand that under certain circumstances firearms might pose a risk to your child. I'd like to recommend, if you don't already know about certain safety and storage issues, that you get the necessary training and information regarding how to keep your child safe from firearms accidents. Firearms can also provide a great safety advantage for children as well, so learn proper safety procedures yourself and then make every effort to instruct your children and other family members on proper firearms safety. I'd also recommend you encourage your child's school to adopt the Eddie Eagle firearms safety program sponsored by the NRA. Also, I have the name of a good firearms instructor if you need it." That would take all of 15 seconds, it would cover the issue and the doctor would have provided a balanced, non-biased assessment of the pros/cons to firearms in the home and any risks to children. But they rarely offer that sort of non-biased information. They ask the question because someone from the CDC or other leftist organization has told them to because guns are bad. I've been seeing a doctor in Conifer that is very pro-gun, carries in the clinic (as do many other staff members) and says he approaches the issue in the manner I've described above. I have no problem with the question as long as it's asked in the proper context and good advice is given. I don't want my doctor giving me bad advice on how I should live my life in terms of gun ownership any more than I want him giving me bad medical advice.


    From 2005-2009 the CDC report 513 deaths (103/year) of children aged 1-4 from drowning in swimming pools. That is a smaller sample size (ages 1-4 vs 10 and under) yet almost 3 times more deaths per year. Here is the stats for just 2010. Tell your doctor to FO and mind his own business (health).

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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    How is an inanimate object a potential risk to a 4 month old child?
    You clearly have no kids. There are TONS of inanimate objects in the house that can hurt a child(remember, just like baby alligators, they don't stay that size forever). Ever hear of "child proofing"? It's something every new parent has to do that is targeted at inanimate objects.

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    I started writing a nasty reply, and then I realized you're joking.
    I am not joking. I think many people are paranoid tin foil hat types.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Fair enough. But it only follows that it's the doctor's job to have the facts...not made up leftist nonsense. If doctor's looked at the facts regarding firearms in the home instead of relying on information from "Brady" and other anti-gun sources who frequently categorize people up to 24 years of age as "children", they'd probably realize this was a useless question.

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    I don't want my doctor giving me bad advice on how I should live my life in terms of gun ownership any more than I want him giving me bad medical advice.
    There is a lot there but I think you hit the nail on the head with the thought that it matters what they do with that info, not that they ask for it. I have only had 4 primary care doctors in my life. All 4 have asked if I have guns, then when I say yes they ask if they are properly secured. To which I answer "yes". That is it. I have never had it go further or heard from someone that I actually know of it going any further. These stories seem limited to the internet so far in my experience. Then if they go into some annoying spiel about it it is still not the fault of the question or the answer, it's how the person reacts to it. In that case the issue should still be with the persons reaction, not the questions itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by buckshotbarlow View Post
    And i assume your honest abe, and never lied on anything? This is complete BS, and Ocare is full of this crap. Invasion of privacy is something serious enough to ask the merits of the person asking the question under any circumstance. I support the OP, the wife needs to learn a lesson that she should not be blabbing her mouth about firearms in the house...the answer is always no.
    Of course I have lied, everyone does. I try to restrict it to times when there is a real and valid reason too. Which this is not a situation that fits that description in my opinion.

    Also when you go someplace that you don't have to go to, and ask someone else for their services that they are under no legal requirement to provide, "privacy" doesn't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    Considering the government now has access to your medical records thru obamacare, this is just another attempt to create a list of gun owners.AND this is being done at the recommendation of the government. Something that should NEVER occur. I would suggest you re-examine your stance.
    The government has 1000 other more effective ways of collecting data on you. This is VERY low on my list of concerns about how the government collects data on us.

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnhack View Post


    From 2005-2009 the CDC report 513 deaths (103/year) of children aged 1-4 from drowning in swimming pools. That is a smaller sample size (ages 1-4 vs 10 and under) yet almost 3 times more deaths per year. Here is the stats for just 2010. Tell your doctor to FO and mind his own business (health).
    Actually the swimming pool question should be standard for most child care doctors as well. At least any decent doctor would cover pools as well since they are one of the biggest risks to children.
    Last edited by akumadiavolo; 07-25-2013 at 14:02.

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    Default The wife is clueless.

    How many children have died from Dr's malpractice and/or Rx drugs?


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    a more important question is, if we really didnt think the wives would see it, how many threads would have this same exact title....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    It's a government form, just another way of tracking. My mother in law just checks no to this, doesn't even ask. < I converted them well.
    Talking directly with my dr, no problem talking about the firearms. Putting it on a form, that goes to insurance, gov't, NSA, anti-gun orgs, etc., now that's something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    OK, please tell us why don't they ask if you are a regular drinker or if you do drugs?
    These questions, along with the firearms question, were on the last info sheet at my doc's office. I left most of them blank...
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