Framing the gun control message

[Ronin13]

People who identify with that ideology are emotionally driven. They'd much rather feel good about a decision than let it be driven by logic. We all know folks like this.

Yep. Most of the people like this are proud liberals/progressives.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Yep. Most of the people like this are proud liberals/progressives.

Yep.
2 more moving in to this state next week in the form of my inlaws.
Believe me, gentlemen, I fought and fought and fought on this one.

[Ronin13]

Yep.
2 more moving in to this state next week in the form of my inlaws.
Believe me, gentlemen, I fought and fought and fought on this one.

Speaking of in-laws... You know what a mixed feeling is?

Your mother-in-law driving off a cliff in your new Mercedes.

[asmo]

We should emphasize that one fundamental freedom every American should have is the freedom to be safe in our homes and neighborhoods – freedom to live our lives without the constant threat of gun violence hanging over our heads.

"A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stuart Mill

[Clint45]

They clearly have no intention of debating or compromising or acknowledging when they are mistaken on a point of fact. They are unreasonable zealots 100% convinced that the ends justify the means, and their end goal is not only to ban private ownership of high capacity magazines, but to criminalize private ownership of handguns and outlaw concealed carry. They've been working towards that goal incrementally for a long time.

[hatidua]

their end goal is not only to ban private ownership of high capacity magazines, but to criminalize private ownership of handguns and outlaw concealed carry.

I'm not convinced they'd stop at ending handguns and concealed carry. I truly believe they want firearms of any kind out of bounds.

[BPTactical]

And allegedly the annointed one is poised to sign the UN treaty as well.

[Milt]

Time to wake up and smell the proverbial coffee.

You cannot counter 'faith' with reason - for the 'progressive' religion, victim status is a virtue and individual responsibility (and rights) is blasphemy. We will also not be able to vote our way out of this; the 'Free Shit Army' (FSA) now constitutes the majority of the electorate - vote fraud is no longer required (though the collectivists just can't seem to stop that particular habit).

Carefully read the Declaration of Independence; it is surprisingly relevant to these times...

[Kraven251]

I wonder who will enforce the no fly zone to protect us

[ringhilt]

Yep, the left is winning because they have better PR then we do. They are masters of it.

Personally, I think it is time to go on the offensive. Logic and reason will not work with these people. They loose if decisions are based on facts and logic. This is why everything is a "feeling" with them.
I say, buy a copy of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and use the same tactics against them. One of the primary weapons is ridicule. Another is make them live up to their own standards.
All these anti-gunners live in gated communities protected by security guards and have a very low police response time. What a bunch of wimps hiding in their protected enclaves. And they are also a bunch of hypocrites. Most of them are protected by armed security guards. Didn't Ghandi say "be the change you want to see in the world"? Well, if they want to live in a gun free world, they should live a gun free life shouldn't they?

It is time to get mean. The republican party is done for because they are too nice and don't fight back.
And this applies to many topics, not just guns.

My rant for the afternoon.