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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Minimum wage is basically "I'd pay you less if I could, but I can't."

    That said, minimum wage jobs were meant for high school and college students, people who were still living with their parents and with little to no bills. But with over 70% of new jobs in the past 3 years being minimum wage jobs, things have changed.
    How bad of a worker is this person if they are not worth the minimum wage? I would say at that point they are just not employed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    How bad of a worker is this person if they are not worth the minimum wage? I would say at that point they are just not employed.
    Not so much about the quality of the work, as the demands of the job. How much would someone say a person is worth to assemble bread, lettuce and beef on an assembly line? How much is someone worth to have stand at a counter at a gas station to serve the 4 people that come in between midnight and 4am?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    minimum wage jobs were meant for high school and college students, people who were still living with their parents and with little to no bills. But with over 70% of new jobs in the past 3 years being minimum wage jobs, things have changed.
    No, things HAVEN'T changed. That's precisely the problem ... we should have recovered from the 2007 crash a few years ago and haven't really recovered anything except in the fairy world of academics. We haven't got new high paying jobs because either people don't have the money or it's not worth paying that kind of money (especially with Obamacare penalties) to hire someone. LOWER the minimum wage and you'd probably see a lot more of those "underprivileged" kids get part-time jobs and thereby learn some work ethics. Continue to raise 'em and you'll see continued contraction as it's just not worth having anyone do the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Not so much about the quality of the work, as the demands of the job.
    No, actually its all about the value of the job to the employer.

    If you have to pay someone $15/hr but their hour's worth of work only makes you $10 then you just go out of business and the job goes away.
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    How much is the minimum wage anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Toastie View Post
    These people are lucky to have jobs, not entitled to the "rich" owners money. Too bad they don't understand that and the union organizers tell them they "deserve" it...
    The union guys never put it in context for the workers so they join in the " outrage" and example of that is this

    Apparently S. Robson Walton ( of Walmart.. yeah I knew evil but hear me out) has a "16 million dollar car collection" so the protesters were after him over it.. even I at first was .. damn 16 million in cars ?? what a jerk he could pay his people more.. then I wondered how many Employees does Walmart have ? well 2.2 million so if he sold of the car collection he could give everyone 8 bucks. not 8 more an hour.. not 8 more a year.... 8 bucks.. PERIOD.. hell actually a bit under 8 bucks but you figure .2 million of those are upper management and you can skip giving them the 8 bucks...

    then I wondered his salary ... it's a bit over 220K a year ... even if he pulled a Steve Jobs and took no pay the workers in Walmart would only see like 10 cents more a year.

    But no one is ever going to put that in context for the workers..... if they knew those numbers... why would they bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd View Post
    How much is the minimum wage anyway?
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    And don't get me started on the stupid ballot initiative that our fellow Coloradoans voted for a coupe years ago that tied the Minimum Wage to the Inflation rate ... so when inflation starts to spike it'll kill a bunch of small businesses and balloon unemployment all at the same time ... "yay free money taken from evil rich people!"
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    Colorado has some of the most ridiculous tax ballot initiatives every election cycle. The new one for schools that requires how much of the budget to go to education ... come on now. Would be nice if my truck didn't almost get swallowed by the pot holes as I drive to work every day... but its for the children!

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