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    I can't find the video I'm looking for, but as far as people jumping in front of cars, this one is my favorite by far.

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    So what was it that caused the driver of the RR to think he needed to exit the situation so quickly. Surely there must be a reason he did not want to wait for 10-15-20 minutes for the police to rescue them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrghost View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Wow, so if one of us is hit by somebody in a car, you would not help us out from under it, much less try to stop it from continuing to crush us..... as has been reported of the guy with a broken back? The guy that initially got hit only broke an arm and was in court today. The news reported the guy with a broken back was trying to pull him out when the RR guy floored it.....and apparently your a cop??? Were you just in another video and taking this personnally??? Nice to know you have any of our backs if we were hurt. Amazing.

    BTW... The RR was already stopped.
    I don't believe I said any of that.

    First off the guy that has been charged clearly caused the accident on the video. Sure maybe he didn't realize that motorcycles stop faster than an SUV but I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt that he was at least smart enough to realize he was going to get hit and was actually trying to cause an incident. If you believe that Cruz was riding along minding his own business when he was hit from behind by a maniac in a RR than we are so far apart on this there's no point discussing it.

    I have not seen any mention that someone was pined under the vehicle or in imminent danger of being crushed. If that were the case I'd expect that the first idiot (Cruz) would have been hurt worse than he was.

    While there is not enough evidence at this point to tell exactly what happened the news also reported that when the driver stopped the gang started smashing his vehicle with helmets and slashing his tires. That seems plausible given what we saw in this video and others from the same day. I also don't think it's unreasonable to believe that they were verbally and physically threatening the driver (from the reports it sounds like one of these winners stabbed him in the face after pulling him from the vehicle at the end) which caused him to panic and hit the gas. Maybe the guy with the broken back was just trying to help his friend or maybe, just maybe he was standing in front of the vehicle screaming at the driver to get out so he could fuck him up. Neither would really surprise me at this point.

    I'm not a cop and I'm pretty critical of their actions at times but this is the type of incident where they shine.... Up until it turned into a gang attempting to execute some type of vigilante justice (right after the minor accident) the police could have easily handled it.

    You seem to mistake having someones back and attempting to justify an idiots actions with violence. The people that had their back are the ones that stayed to try and make sure they were OK. The rest were a bunch of fucking thugs that deserved much worse than they'll get from this incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by th3w01f View Post
    I don't believe I said any of that.

    First off the guy that has been charged clearly caused the accident on the video. Sure maybe he didn't realize that motorcycles stop faster than an SUV but I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt that he was at least smart enough to realize he was going to get hit and was actually trying to cause an incident. If you believe that Cruz was riding along minding his own business when he was hit from behind by a maniac in a RR than we are so far apart on this there's no point discussing it.

    I have not seen any mention that someone was pined under the vehicle or in imminent danger of being crushed. If that were the case I'd expect that the first idiot (Cruz) would have been hurt worse than he was.

    While there is not enough evidence at this point to tell exactly what happened the news also reported that when the driver stopped the gang started smashing his vehicle with helmets and slashing his tires. That seems plausible given what we saw in this video and others from the same day. I also don't think it's unreasonable to believe that they were verbally and physically threatening the driver (from the reports it sounds like one of these winners stabbed him in the face after pulling him from the vehicle at the end) which caused him to panic and hit the gas. Maybe the guy with the broken back was just trying to help his friend or maybe, just maybe he was standing in front of the vehicle screaming at the driver to get out so he could fuck him up. Neither would really surprise me at this point.

    I'm not a cop and I'm pretty critical of their actions at times but this is the type of incident where they shine.... Up until it turned into a gang attempting to execute some type of vigilante justice (right after the minor accident) the police could have easily handled it.

    You seem to mistake having someones back and attempting to justify an idiots actions with violence. The people that had their back are the ones that stayed to try and make sure they were OK. The rest were a bunch of fucking thugs that deserved much worse than they'll get from this incident.
    Completely agree, great post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrghost View Post
    Some people around the world are making that sorta thing their career:
    Now I understand why they all have dash cams over there..

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    Yeah I need a dash cam to match my S&W...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Wow, so if one of us is hit by somebody in a car, you would not help us out from under it, much less try to stop it from continuing to crush us..... as has been reported of the guy with a broken back? The guy that initially got hit only broke an arm and was in court today. The news reported the guy with a broken back was trying to pull him out when the RR guy floored it.....and apparently your a cop??? Were you just in another video and taking this personnally??? Nice to know you have any of our backs if we were hurt. Amazing.

    BTW... The RR was already stopped.
    Again, please provide citation.

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    Is it typical for members to display such animosity and vitriol talk over such a minor subject as this?
    A. No one died ( luckily)
    B. Not near important enough of an incident to cause members here to disassociate from each other
    C. Everyone has their own opinion sometimes things are best left unsaid
    D. Lets wait till the facts to come out.
    I have allready posted on this thread about what my plan of action would be in a similiar set of circumstances but until the facts come forth lets sit back and relax and not make more enemies over this, the Anti gunners in both parties would love that.... Now where did I put my Ukulele strums kumbaya



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    From: http://www.aikenstandard.com/article...0105/131009834

    Prosecutors and police said Cruz was participating in a motorcycle rally speeding along Manhattan’s West Side Highway. Cruz cut in front of a black Range Rover and, still staring at its driver, slowed down so much that the rear tire of his chopper bumped the front of the SUV, they said. He got off and approached the SUV, prosecutors said

    From: http://townhall.com/news/us/2013/10/...ation-n1714877

    The only person criminally charged in Sunday's encounter is Christopher Cruz, who was arraigned on misdemeanor charges of reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment. Police and prosecutors said Cruz, of Passaic, N.J., was the biker who initially cut off the SUV, which then bumped his motorcycle's back tire.

    From: http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/tv...d-alexian-lien

    The 28-year-old was charged Wednesday with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing. His bail was set at $1,500 cash; his attorney said Cruz even got off the motorcycle and tried to start the procedures for an accident report and that his client denies all the allegations.

    He was hospitalized after the incident with minor back pain but released soon after.








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