Police Checkpoint Proceedures

[DavieD55]

I feel the need to request the "brakes be pumped" on this. Stop comparing modern American law enforcement and "just doing their job" to the SS or other Nazi Germany war criminals "just doing their job." Two very different things- US LEOs are much more accountable, have US/Constitutional law to abide by, and have public opinion and department policy to abide by. Our cops are not out rounding up minorities for systematic slaughter- so please, refrain from comparing the "just doing their job" to the Nazis. It's disingenuous and counter productive.

I am glad that you have an understanding of the differences between what is wrong and what is right. Many don't give a shit about it and ignore it. The Constitution reigns supreme regardless.

[newracer]

Many park rangers were only "following orders" when they closed the national monuments and parks.

[Kraven251]

I see in this picture a guy who is in fact getting a rifle pointed at him. He also only has one hand on the steering wheel the other isn't in plain view. Given that fact I will go with the police on that matter.

As for all of the other posturing...

They are people doing a job. I defend my house at night, and don't expect anyone else to save me. We don't know what is going on, but obviously there is a situation.

[Dave_L]

If the only reason you can give someone for doing something is "I'm just doing my job", then you may want to rethink why you're doing that job.

Civilian- "Why are you pointing that rifle at my face?!"

Officer-"I'm just doing my job, sir"

Compared to:

Civilian-"Why are you pointing that rifle at my face?"

Officer-"Sir, there's a dangerous criminal on the loose and we have to take all necessary precautions. We don't know if he's hiding in your car and has you at gun point so we have to act as if he's in every car. We'll move swiftly so you can be on your way."

Scenario 2 explains why he's doing what he's doing and can show reason to why he's doing it. If the only answer you can give is "Im just doing my job" then you're probably being a chode.

[BushMasterBoy]

The "authorities" protect their own, no matter what they do! Look for example at Joshua Carrier, a Colorado Springs city police officer convicted of being a child molester. He was sentenced to prison, but the Colorado Department of Corrections "inmate locator" shows "no record found". Cops get special treatment, lets face it.

http://gazette.com/joshua-carrier-se.../article/15134

http://www.doc.state.co.us/oss/

I'm not bashing LEO's but their bosses i.e. the DA's, governors, president etc. are some real scumbags!

[<MADDOG>]

Detroit, 1967



As our military evolves, our police do also.

I would like to point out nothing has changed. IE: the past rounding of US citizens and their subsequent placement into internment camps, the deployment of the National Guard to quell rioting college kids, etc. Oh, I forgot a certain NWA song in 88' that started a shit-storm "fuck tha police". That had nothing to do with what was felt as a oppressive police force then either, right?

The only difference between now and then is the internet.

[generalmeow]

Many park rangers were only "following orders" when they closed the national monuments and parks.

Right, but what kind of an order does a park ranger receive? I mean if it's ridiculous, like "just make things difficult for people", why follow it? Why say you're just doing your job?

The fact that park rangers just do what they're told, even if what they've been told is to completely piss off the citizens that pay their salaries, is about as close to proof as we can get that cops would do the same thing.

It's not life or death for them, just a paycheck, and they'd still do it. Some would walk away at various points when it's gone too far, but not many.

[275RLTW]

None of us were there. So STFU
What he did was necessary. So STFU
Job #1 Make it home at th end of the day. That is all that matters. So STFU
You don't understand, because they rest of you are pussies and or idiots. So STFU
Its not his fault for sticking a rifle in someones face, its his boss. He is blameless. So STFU
Hes just like you trying to put food on the table. So STFU

Bravo!

Oh and dont forget, they, the cops, protect you while you are sleeping!

Thank you for being the prime example of my point. You have no idea what that officer is doing and yet you want to criticize him, ignorantly, for doing what he must. Ignorance must truly be bliss...

[DavieD55]

Kalifonya also has chronic problems with letting all kinds of criminals out of the prison system.

[<MADDOG>]

Thank you for being the prime example of my point. You have no idea what that officer is doing and yet you want to criticize him, ignorantly, for doing what he must. Ignorance must truly be bliss...

The irony is; I don't think you got his...