Police Checkpoint Proceedures

[sniper7]

Who says the cop isn't willing to destroy me? He doesn't know my intentions, especially after 4 other LE were just injured. You can't have total security and absolute freedom at the same time.




If you don't like the procedures, then don't fly. No one is forcing you to get on a plane.

So you are fine starring down the barrel of a gun that a cop is holding?
You ever see the Cali shootouts or the other numerous videos of police shootouts or even encounters where they have negligent discharges in classrooms or while attempting to hold someone at gunpoint?

If you are okay with that you are a total dumbass. Like I said...the rules of firearms Dont change no matter who it is and how much training they have.

[BushMasterBoy]

If you are okay with that you are a total dumbass. Like I said...the rules of firearms Dont change no matter who it is and how much training they have.

We have a "winning" statement!

[275RLTW]

Thank you coloccw; I do believe you just have shown your true colors...

Yep...with just a few posts you have me all figured out. It is ironic that in your profile you quote Patton, "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." yet when someone disagrees with how you think you resort to insults. I believe it is you who has shown your true colors....or lack thereof rather.

So you are fine starring down the barrel of a gun that a cop is holding?
You ever see the Cali shootouts or the other numerous videos of police shootouts or even encounters where they have negligent discharges in classrooms or while attempting to hold someone at gunpoint?

If you are okay with that you are a total dumbass. Like I said...the rules of firearms Dont change no matter who it is and how much training they have.

...and yet you probably scream "don't judge all gun owners on the actions of a few crazy people" after every active shooter event and every RMGO rally. I'm comfortable with sworn LE pointing a firearm at me, following all safety rules, knowing that I will not be engaged as I am not a threat to them. You're not ok with it, that's fine. Some of us have nothing to hide so it doesn't bother us.

Flame away, I'm out...as I said before, way too much tinfoil in here.

[Irving]

Thank you coloccw; I do believe you just have shown your true colors...

I don't think that coloccw is advocating that he prefers more security to less freedom, he is just relating a cold hard fact.
There is a disconnect between what he is seeing and what others are seeing. Coloccw is perfectly comfortable with someone in the position of a police officer to be holding a rifle in a low ready position while facing coloccw, but the rifle not pointing at him.

What he says about security and freedom is true. The issue arises in that even if the gentleman in the vehicle prefers more freedom than security, he (or any of us) is not in the position to opt out at that moment.

[hurley842002]

You keep quoting like you could provoke me...LMAO

No clue what you are talking about...

[<MADDOG>]

Yep...with just a few posts you have me all figured out. It is ironic that in your profile you quote Patton, [COLOR=#111111][FONT=Helvetica]"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." yet when someone disagrees with how you think you resort to insults. I believe it is you who has shown your true colors....or lack thereof rather

I don't pretend to have anyone figured out. However; by the wording of your posts, you are perfectly content with a police state, which myself, and obviously others on this thread, have a very hard problem with. How else is one to take your comments?

...and yet you probably scream "don't judge all gun owners on the actions of a few crazy people" after every active shooter event and every RMGO rally. I'm comfortable with sworn LE pointing a firearm at me, following all safety rules, knowing that I will not be engaged as I am not a threat to them. You're not ok with it, that's fine. Some of us have nothing to hide so it doesn't bother us.

I am glad you are content with a barrel at your noggin, and you have nothing to hide. There is a reason some of the people on this board distrust LE in both situations, and I am one of them. It goes back to the old adage "trust but verify". Does that make me a NWA member? No. But it doesn't make me drink the "all LE is good" flavor-aid either...

I don't think that coloccw is advocating that he prefers more security to less freedom, he is just relating a cold hard fact.
There is a disconnect between what he is seeing and what others are seeing. Coloccw is perfectly comfortable with someone in the position of a police officer to be holding a rifle in a low ready position while facing coloccw, but the rifle not pointing at him.
What he says about security and freedom is true. The issue arises in that even if the gentleman in the vehicle prefers more freedom than security, he (or any of us) is not in the position to opt out at that moment.

Thank you Irving, and if that is coloccw's attitude, he should convey it.

Lastly, I do not profess to be a "cop basher" by any means (ref: post #77). However, the perception of the public, and some on this board, is that the lines of some LE and the military are beginning to blur...

[<MADDOG>]

No clue what you are talking about...

You two are crossing streams, but too stubborn to see it...

[clublights]

3 reasons if I've done nothing wrong I have a problem with having LEO point a weapon at or almost at me








yes in 2 of the 3 they were arresting suspects but ND's happen. and I'd prefer the weapon was not pointed at ME ( or almost at me) when they happen. I avoid this by not doing anything to get an officer to point his weapon at me. but if I'm just driving to work and get caught up in something ( the original premise of the thread) WHY should I just be ok with it when things like in these three videos happens?

[BushMasterBoy]

Meanwhile in other news... http://www.khq.com/story/19965150/co...his-patrol-car


And it ends like this... http://www.kasa.com/news/local/state...hot-with-taser

[Gman]

Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop



Woman shot by LAPD during Dorner manhunt still 'scared, panicked

The LAPD replaced their truck and the city paid them $4.2 million as part of a settlement.