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    Carry guns is one thing. But if the merchandise is mine and the line is long, I'm not waiting. Businesses can operate how they want but they can't force you do something when you're not doing anything. If business can operate how they want- why not pass less than minimum wage? Oh because that is against the law. Just like detaining without cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    You are still on their property. Going to the gift shop at the Air Force Academy doesn't make you immune from spot inspections at the gates.
    Not apples for apples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeinhb View Post
    Carry guns is one thing. But if the merchandise is mine and the line is long, I'm not waiting. Businesses can operate how they want but they can't force you do something when you're not doing anything. If business can operate how they want- why not pass less than minimum wage? Oh because that is against the law. Just like detaining without cause.
    First of all, nobody is being detained, so let's get that out of the way. Don't turn it in to something it's not....

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    And I never said it's not their right to force people to show receipts at exit, however, if I'm not stealing or doing anything it's also my right to leave their building without being detained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    First of all, nobody is being detained, so let's get that out of the way. Don't turn it in to something it's not....
    If I am trying to get from cash register to my vehicle to go home and I am stopped and prevented by doing that- what's that called? Even if I'm slowed down.

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    I can't wait for next weeks thread about how Sam's Club revoked someone's membership for busting out the door without showing there receipt, and how unfair and possibly illegal it was.
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    When the government came to take our guns, they knocked on the door. After our guns were gone, they never bothered knocking again - Holocaust Survivor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeinhb View Post
    If I am trying to get from cash register to my vehicle to go home and I am stopped and prevented by doing that- what's that called? Even if I'm slowed down.
    Look up the definition of detained, and you will see, it is not called that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Look up the definition of detained, and you will see, it is not called that...
    Maybe you should as I am aware of the definitions. Better yet here, look at the 3rd definition:


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    I'll bite.

    You're in a store the size of a regional sports arena that houses everything from $14 cuts of steak to $3,600 televisions. Unlike your local grocer who has one small entrance to keep an eye on, with no more than 30 patrons inside at any given time, the literal millions of dollars in various merchandise is out on a floor populated by a few hundred people. Surely you can understand why they want to exercise some vigilance in making sure someone doesn't just stroll in, nick a bundle of DVDs and a cell phone, then march out unimpeded.

    And if you're really enough of a douche to just blow off a person who's actually working for a living (which seems rare given our state of affairs), then be combative when they ask WTF you're doing, I hope they do detain you. Good luck explaining to the police how you violated the Terms of Agreement you signed on private property but 'teh FEDURAL LAW is superseedin' it!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    I'll bite.

    You're in a store the size of a regional sports arena that houses everything from $14 cuts of steak to $3,600 televisions. Unlike your local grocer who has one small entrance to keep an eye on, with no more than 30 patrons inside at any given time, the literal millions of dollars in various merchandise is out on a floor populated by a few hundred people. Surely you can understand why they want to exercise some vigilance in making sure someone doesn't just stroll in, nick a bundle of DVDs and a cell phone, then march out unimpeded.

    And if you're really enough of a douche to just blow off a person who's actually working for a living (which seems rare given our state of affairs), then be combative when they ask WTF you're doing, I hope they do detain you. Good luck explaining to the police how you violated the Terms of Agreement you signed on private property but 'teh FEDURAL LAW is superseedin' it!'
    I've done it. If the line is small, i show my receipt. But there have been times where there have been 30 people in line and I walk through. I just tell them I purchased my stuff and do not have to legally wait now. They leave me alone. No cops. You can add anything into an agreement but that doesn't make it enforceable. I've seen prenups that say the man gets sex at least 3 times a week. Both him and his wife "agreed" to it. But that is not enforceable and if she declines the 3 times, nothing can be done.

    And if you're using the excuse that these old ladies at the door checking merchandise is their security in preventing theft- that's dumb. Should/probably have security cameras and security watching. The old ladies at door don't care and don't even do a good job at that. They barely pay attention.
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