Poison filled Hollow Points?

[Circuits]

Poison need not be a liquid, or present in large quantities to be lethal. The dried secretions of poison dart frogs (mentioned previously) and crystalline cyanide would be two extremely potent, non-liquid poisons which could theoretically be used on a bullet.

Such an agent relies on blood/fluid in the wound to wet and mobilize it.

With a sufficiently lethal agent, capillary action and seepage near the wound would like be enough to transport a lethal dose to the circulatory system, then on to the CNS.

Poisons on any weapon, even otherwise deadly weapons, have traditionally been frowned upon within the framework of the law - going back to medieval times and the roots of the common law. It was okay to kill a man in a duel with cold steel, but treacherous and cowardly to coat your blade with poison to achieve the same purpose. I'm not really sure how modern law would handle such a case.

[Irving]

I'm glad you brought up dueling Circuits, because I've considered the ramifications of legalizing dueling and think it makes for good conversation.

[BigBear]

lol, how would you even duel today? "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight kid." HAHA. And then what rules would there be? "My DE is bigger than your .22" lol. Interesting concept. I remember taking a fencing class in college, that was FUN!! On the other hand, I think it would be a great tool and help to teach self esteem, disicipline, respect, etc that seems to be lacking in my opinion.

[Irving]

I guess it'd kind of be like getting a fight sanctioned by the city. I guess you could have non-lethal dueling, but there are already some venues for that, like Test n Tune, or even the Friday Night ET series at Bandimere if you have a beef with someone else with a fast car or something.

[GreenScoutII]

I'm glad you brought up dueling Circuits, because I've considered the ramifications of legalizing dueling and think it makes for good conversation.

Good point. I have often thought the same thing about fights in general. I don't know how old everybody here is, but back when I was in Jr. High and High school it was not unheard of for the coach to put gloves on two guys who couldn't seem to get along. He would then lock them in the wrestling room for 15 minutes if both were willing participants. There was no one else in the room so the two combatants had to work out their beef between the two of them. After the fifteen minutes, the problem was always solved. Frequently, the guys ended up friends.

Also, how many of you have ever witnessed (or been involved in) a bar fight? I have never understood why the cops have to be called, arrests made, and charges filed. IMO, a fight between two men who are both willing participants is NOT assault. It is meerly field expedient conflict resolution.

I tend to think something should be written into the law which would prevent someone who willingly enters into a fight from sueing anybody if he happens to get his ass kicked. That should solve the problem of lawyer feeding.

Yes, in my younger days I got in a scrap or two. Sometimes I was the ass kicker, other times, the ass kicked. Back then no one seemed to need to tattle on the other guy to the teachers or cops whatever the case might have been.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

[GreenScoutII]

Sorry for the thread hijack.... I didn't mention anything about poisoned bullets....

As for poisoned bullets, bad idea. The DA will find or invent something to charge you with.

[rondog]

AFA the airplane on the treadmill......

If the treadmill isn't powered, then it's not a treadmill, it's just a belt sitting still doing nothing. The prop on the plane will pull the plane forward down the treadmill, just like on a runway, and the plane would take off. The rolling of the wheels isn't going to make the treadmill move. Even if the tail of the plane were tied so the plane couldn't move, the wheels won't roll and the treadmill won't move.

If the treadmill IS powered, like a real treadmill should be, and the plane's prop is running for all it's worth, yet the plane is sitting still in relation to the ground, it's not going to fly. Airflow over & under the wings creates the lift, and the prop pulls the plane forward on the runway to generate the airflow over/under the wings. The wheels have nothing to do with it.

AFA poisoned bullets.....

No argument it's a bad idea. But with a typical poison, you can't get enough in a hollowpoint bullet to do anything. Ricin, however, is nasty stuff that only takes a speck, and if it gets into your body you're dead meat. Doesn't matter if it's inhaled, ingested, smoked, injected, whatever. Do some research on it.

[BigBear]

Rondog, good explanations. I get ahead of myself sometimes and even forget to mention stuff. Good catch.

BTW, what does "AFA" mean?

[Irving]

If the treadmill IS powered, like a real treadmill should be, and the plane's prop is running for all it's worth, yet the plane is sitting still in relation to the ground, it's not going to fly. Airflow over & under the wings creates the lift, and the prop pulls the plane forward on the runway to generate the airflow over/under the wings. The wheels have nothing to do with it.

Yes, that is all true, except if the props are running for all it's worth, the plane WILL be moving forward, regardless of what the treadmill is doing, because the wheels are free spinning. Do you agree?

[rondog]

Yes, that is all true, except if the props are running for all it's worth, the plane WILL be moving forward, regardless of what the treadmill is doing, because the wheels are free spinning. Do you agree?

Not if the treadmill is running at the same speed. That's how I understand the myth, the treadmill is going the same speed as the forward motion of the plane, so the plane is essentially standing still, even though it's at takeoff power and the wheels are spinning.

In other words, if you were standing next to the plane while this was going on, and the plane isn't moving forward in relation to your position, it's not going to lift off.