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    Heaven or Hell? What's the verdict?
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    i don't care what you do with that creep but keep him out of Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    i don't care what you do with that creep but keep him out of Hell.

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    See, this is why you need to reform your behavior ... guys like him are almost certainly destined for Hell so it behooves you to improve your chances for the other place if you don't want to spend Eternity getting chummy with him.


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    Can't blame a man for trying...
    Thanks, but no thanks.

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    Liked him as an actor, sorry to see it happen like this. Had a couple of guys from high school go this way. Drugs.... DON'T DO THEM.
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    I hate that feel like a heartless bastard, but I can't help it. I could care less... Prayers for his kids....

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    I am around addicts everyday I work, I work in a jail. Go figure. I used to really despise and loathe them. I mean how can you do that to yourself, and have any self respect. I still treated them with respect/professionally but that's the way I used to feel.

    Now after having several family members end up like them has caused my thought process to change. Some of them liked to party and got started that way. Another was an athlete who was injured and had a doctor who liked to over medicate and yes there are more. Another was found in pretty much the same position Hoffman was, with a needle hanging out of his arm between the toilet and tub.

    IMHO it is easy to say a lot of things we all say when it doesn't directly impact us, but once it hits home at least some of the old attitudes and beliefs change, and not always for the better. I guess I have matured, meaning gotten older, and still hate the drugs and those who peddle them but I also now hate the sin but not the sinner as I once did.

    I wholeheartedly agree with the other members about his kids, as they were collateral damage from his disease and drug use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmanbay View Post
    I am around addicts everyday I work, I work in a jail. Go figure. I used to really despise and loathe them. I mean how can you do that to yourself, and have any self respect. I still treated them with respect/professionally but that's the way I used to feel.

    Now after having several family members end up like them has caused my thought process to change. Some of them liked to party and got started that way. Another was an athlete who was injured and had a doctor who liked to over medicate and yes there are more. Another was found in pretty much the same position Hoffman was, with a needle hanging out of his arm between the toilet and tub.

    IMHO it is easy to say a lot of things we all say when it doesn't directly impact us, but once it hits home at least some of the old attitudes and beliefs change, and not always for the better. I guess I have matured, meaning gotten older, and still hate the drugs and those who peddle them but I also now hate the sin but not the sinner as I once did.

    I wholeheartedly agree with the other members about his kids, as they were collateral damage from his disease and drug use.

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    And I will agree to a certain point. I fully understand how even a brush with smack can drag one in or make one realize just what is going on. That said there also comes a point where even understanding does not excuse the fact that when your addiction overcomes ALL common sense where you threaten family members with bodily harm unless you get what you want will unleash the hounds of hell on your ass..... Do not be surprised when one drives 1300 miles and has a talk with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    That said there also comes a point where even understanding does not excuse the fact that when your addiction overcomes ALL common sense where you threaten family members with bodily harm unless you get what you want will unleash the hounds of hell on your ass..... Do not be surprised when one drives 1300 miles and has a talk with you.

    Just some thoughts on this subject.
    Huh...know someone that did that, do ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Huh...know someone that did that, do ya?

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