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    Service members aren't trusted with loaded weapons overseas either. What makes anyone think they will allow it here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Service members aren't trusted with loaded weapons overseas either. What makes anyone think they will allow it here?
    I expect you mean in Garrison?

    Certainly it was a long time ago, in a land far, far away, and maybe the circumstances of handling classified material and gear warranted it, but when I was in DE and worked shift at a comm center, the repair tech on duty as radio operator had ready access to a rack of M16's and a basic load.

    Back in the real world (1st ID Fort Riley), we never had access to ammunition unless it was during refresh or qual.

    I'm on the fence about arming soldiers in garrison with M4's, but there's no compelling reason I can see to prohibit permitted CCW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    I expect you mean in Garrison?

    Certainly it was a long time ago, in a land far, far away, and maybe the circumstances of handling classified material and gear warranted it, but when I was in DE and worked shift at a comm center, the repair tech on duty as radio operator had ready access to a rack of M16's and a basic load.

    Back in the real world (1st ID Fort Riley), we never had access to ammunition unless it was during refresh or qual.

    I'm on the fence about arming soldiers in garrison with M4's, but there's no compelling reason I can see to prohibit permitted CCW.
    As per base commander's policy- every unit arms room had to have a basic loadout (2 magazines full) for 4 soldiers to pull guard duty in the event of power outage, emergency, or terrorist activity in the area. That was Ft. Drum, 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    As per base commander's policy- every unit arms room had to have a basic loadout (2 magazines full) for 4 soldiers to pull guard duty in the event of power outage, emergency, or terrorist activity in the area. That was Ft. Drum, 2010.
    That was a good laugh...we all know how available the arms room guys are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    That was a good laugh...we all know how available the arms room guys are.
    ROFL.

    Ah, good times. Looking for the arms room guy when he's supposed to be issuing weapons for a SCHEDULED QUAL...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    As per base commander's policy- every unit arms room had to have a basic loadout (2 magazines full) for 4 soldiers to pull guard duty in the event of power outage, emergency, or terrorist activity in the area. That was Ft. Drum, 2010.
    Huh?

    Since when is a basic M4 load not 210 rounds?

    In 198x we only had steel 20 rd mags and IIRC, it was a 240rd loadout.
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