Your "Go to home defense SHTF firearm!

[rondog]

Mine is a compact 1911, my everyday carry piece. I have lots of other guns that would be better suited for h/d, but the wife won't tolerate loaded guns where she might see them or the stupid grandkid or his stupid friends might find them and screw with them.

What I would prefer to keep handy would be my M1 carbine. I feel those are one of the most perfect defensive weapons ever made.

[Irving]

It's driving me crazy how many people think that you don't need to aim a shotgun.

[Bailey Guns]

There is some serious "mall ninja" mentality being displayed in this thread.

I agreee about the "aim a shotgun in the general direction" and the ".223 penetrates more than a 9mm/.45ACP/too much for indoor use" myths. It's extremely annoying to see that on a forum where you'd think people would know better.

[BigBear]

First line is Buddy the blue heeler. Different guns in different rooms, depends on where I or wife are when alerted. Primarily short barrel 20 ga. and whatever handgun we happen to be wearing or if in bed what is in bed holster mounted to bedframe. One of the ways I got the wife to take interest in home defense was to convince her to practice with me clearing house. She enjoys it and regularly comes up with new tactics and will even rearrange the furniture for different scenarios.

Side note, she moves the furniture every couple months anyway. Always has, don't know why. Drives me nuts. Leave it alone so I can move around without lights. She says for cleaning and she just gets tired of always being the same. Now days I don't mind cause if I come home and furniture is rearranged then I know she will suggest we run drills. If it is her idea then if something(lamp, vase etc.) gets broken I'm not in the dog house for couple days.

This is awesome!!!

My dog is Buddy the Boxer!

[Irving]

I've got zero experience with .223, so I would assume that it penetrates more, but the simple explanation of "light weight round at high speeds breaks up, like shooting into water" is enough to convince me. coloccw sent me a video where guys send some rounds through some drywall, but the video leaves out all the import parts when they get to .223.

[Drilldo]

I hear you. Old Riggs shows amazingly good judgement when it comes to people/critters showing up unannounced. He is not the type of dog to just bark like crazy at anything (except motorcycles).

Usually, if a friend or family member drives up, Riggs somehow knows they are a "friendly". He'll wag his tail and bark once or twice just to let me know they're here. This behavior will start long before they actually get to the house.

If a coyote or unknown person shows up at night, Riggs will wake up from a dead sleep and give his alarm bark. Somehow he knows they're coming, not just that they're here. Its like he has a sixth sense or something.

He is the most gentle dog I've ever met, but I have no doubt he would fight a rabid T-Rex to protect his humans...

Want to mess with his favorite girl?



Tyson barks at the doorbell, if he barks at anything else, something is wrong. I know he would defend me and my family.
I got into a fight with a drunk canuck cowboy in front of him and he had a grip on the dude's calve and was trying to pull him out from under me. Snoop is a big baby, but he sounds like a bear when he barks. I'll (hopefully) never have to use a gun to defend my family.

[Marlin]

I've got zero experience with .223, so I would assume that it penetrates more, but the simple explanation of "light weight round at high speeds breaks up, like shooting into water" is enough to convince me. coloccw sent me a video where guys send some rounds through some drywall, but the video leaves out all the import parts when they get to .223.

Well, if you can round up the materials and get them hauled away,, I'm limited in both capacities at the moment, I can build a wall to shoot at and do our own little experiments...

[Irving]

Thanks for the offer, but I've seen the results on box o' truth that are better documented than on that video I watched today.

[Bailey Guns]

The FBI pretty much did the definitive .223 vs handgun penetration tests. It used to be on the FirearmsTactical.com website but I can't find it any longer.

[275RLTW]

Of course it is, especially up close. How incapacitating is birdshot though, that is the issue.

I've seen the results (first hand)of an intruder shot with #6 shot at 37 feet. It took the doc hours to remove the 142 pellets from the body since the shock from the multiple wound channels damaged the internal organs to the point where they were almost liquid. Remember, it's not the bullet that causes most of the damage in a gunshot, but rather the over/under pressure to the air filled cavities in the body that kills somone.