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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg3r Happy View Post
    Its all about priorities. I skip out on the Starbucks, going to the movie theatre, etc. so I can train. I either save up and buy in bulk or reload what I can.
    ^^^^^ this is so true

    why would anyone go to the movie theatre these days, last time we thought about taking the kids to the theatre $72 to get in the door, no f...ing way, wait for the DVD or PPV on the big screen at home

    my $11 can of coffe makes 382 cups... 2.8 cents per cup, why would you spend $5-6 for a cup of coffee?
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    "11 cents a bullet (based on Wideners Mil-spec 55 gr, 99 bucks per 500)
    14 cents in powder (based paying 200 bucks for 8 lbs of powder and using 24 grains per round)
    4 cents a primer (based on 1k of CCI purchased at Cabelas)
    09 cents for brass (take your pick)"

    I dont factor brass at its whole price, you'll use it at least twice and usually get some for free.
    Powder charge should be .14 assuming the pound costs $40.

    Looks like 38 cents a round. Cheaper than most quality ammo, but you've got time to factor in too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamnanc View Post
    "11 cents a bullet (based on Wideners Mil-spec 55 gr, 99 bucks per 500)
    14 cents in powder (based paying 200 bucks for 8 lbs of powder and using 24 grains per round)
    4 cents a primer (based on 1k of CCI purchased at Cabelas)
    09 cents for brass (take your pick)"

    I dont factor brass at its whole price, you'll use it at least twice and usually get some for free.
    Powder charge should be .14 assuming the pound costs $40.

    Looks like 38 cents a round. Cheaper than most quality ammo, but you've got time to factor in too.
    Looks like based off of your prices you would be at .23 cents a round. I dont include brass either as it will be used multiple times and if you are diligent about it you can get quite a bit from the ranges where others dont/wont pick up there own.

    Your calculation of powder breaks down like this;

    8lb keg-7000 grains per pound X 8 = 56,000 divided by 24=2333 $200 divided by 2333 = .08

    Bullet .11
    Powder .08
    Primer .04
    Total .23
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    Quote Originally Posted by spleify View Post
    Looks like based off of your prices you would be at .23 cents a round. I dont include brass either as it will be used multiple times and if you are diligent about it you can get quite a bit from the ranges where others dont/wont pick up there own.

    Your calculation of powder breaks down like this;

    8lb keg-7000 grains per pound X 8 = 56,000 divided by 24=2333 $200 divided by 2333 = .08

    Bullet .11
    Powder .08
    Primer .04
    Total .23
    I was going to lay out the math, but I am on a mobile device. And it's a pain in the ass. Ive used $.23 as my baseline for 55 grain 223, then if you can get both deals and or use cheaper products, You can get the cost down even farther. I have yet to have one failure with Wolf primers. A lot of people say it's not worthwhile to reload 9 mm 40 and 2 to 3, but I would disagree with them. Now that I am working on 308, I assume I'm saving $1 per round, my reloads aren't perfect yet, but my speer 168 hpbt loads at $.60 each shoot tighter groups than nosler custom competition @ $1.5 per round.
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    Actually, 500 bullets for $99 comes to a hair under $.20 a bullet
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    ^^^^^ this is so true

    why would anyone go to the movie theatre these days, last time we thought about taking the kids to the theatre $72 to get in the door, no f...ing way, wait for the DVD or PPV on the big screen at home

    my $11 can of coffe makes 382 cups... 2.8 cents per cup, why would you spend $5-6 for a cup of coffee?
    I agree with this wholeheartedly.

    I'm not saying prices haven't climbed...but prices for some guns, like ARs, are the cheapest I can remember in probably 20 years or more. For me it's more about the availability. Decent prices are out there...just harder to find.

    I can still find what I consider to be practice/training quality ammo in 5.56 for fairly reasonable prices. Silver Bear 5.56 62gr was recently available for .27 cents per round shipped from Sportsman's Guide. When it's available, Wolf .223/5.56 is still around .25 to .27 cents per round shipped. I'm not a believer that steel-cased ammo is the devil so I buy it whenever I can if it means I can shoot for a reasonable price. I scour the local forums for decent priced ammo, too. Just found a local guy selling WWB 9mm Value Packs (100 rds) for $20. He had 6, I bought them all. Not the best price I've ever seen, but it's the best price I've seen in the last few years.

    Yeah...I think it's about priorities. If I didn't want a newer truck I could buy a lot more ammo. If I didn't like to go out for breakfast with the guys once a week, I could buy more ammo.

    Prices across the board for almost everything have gone up. They'll continue to creep up, too.

    On the other hand, few people here are old enough to remember a time when you could re-fi (or buy) a home for a little over 3%. Why those rates are so low is another story. But, they've allowed many people to buy a nicer home or substantially lower what they're paying every month for the home they have. So maybe there's some balance.

    Or maybe I'm just an optimist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    On the other hand, few people here are old enough to remember a time when you could re-fi (or buy) a home for a little over 3%. Why those rates are so low is another story. But, they've allowed many people to buy a nicer home or substantially lower what they're paying every month for the home they have. So maybe there's some balance.

    Or maybe I'm just an optimist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    ^^^^^ this is so true

    why would anyone go to the movie theatre these days, last time we thought about taking the kids to the theatre $72 to get in the door, no f...ing way, wait for the DVD or PPV on the big screen at home

    my $11 can of coffe makes 382 cups... 2.8 cents per cup, why would you spend $5-6 for a cup of coffee?
    Because sometimes I just have to have a cinnamon dolce latte!! However, I live in Meeker and the nearest Starbucks is Rilfe (43 miles away). Instead I pay $5 for a 750ml of flavored syrup and a bag of espresso and make my own. Its not quite as good but its much cheaper!
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