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    Their only redeeming quality is that they *should be* cheap. That is not the case these days due to low production.

    I had a PF-9, it was ok, not impressed, it worked though. I actually had a spring pop out and jam up the weapon, i fixed it and it never happened again.

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    Never owned one, however never judge them as junk or cheap and or knockoffs. I admit I am interested in the KSG that is an innovative product in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Kel-Tec KSG - NeoStead 2000

    Kel-Tec RDB - IWI Tavor

    Kel-Tec PMR-30 - FN Five-SeveN

    Kel-Tec PLR-16 - Olympic Arms OA-93
    Seriously? lay the crack pipe down. I feel like this is gun racism happening here!

    I own a PMR-30. Fun "little" gun. Who else can advertise a gun that when fully loaded ways as much as a fully loaded Pmag!

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    Guns were once beautifully engineered works of art with deep blued steel and polished wood grained furniture. Then along came aluminum and, once they figured out how to keep parts from cracking, they sold like crazy - usually for a higher price. Then came plastic, and I just had to hang my head - retails for the same as before.

    I suppose I'm just a neanderthal who misses the beauty, engineering, and ruggedness that once was.

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    I have a KSG, absolutely wonderful shotgun. Innovative, light, rugged as hell and a great price for what you get. There is a reason they are hard to find. They are an American company that is leading in new ideas for the gun world. That is unlike 3/4 of the guns you seem to look up to. I also have a Five-Seven........... Seems to me about the only parts on that that are not plastic are the barrel and slide.. BTW they have been having some problems with being fully locked into battery. NeoStead.... I believe that is not a full production gun, it is limited even though coming out 13 years ago. The Tavor is a good gun and I love bullpups but there is room for both. Haters gonna hate but it's sad to hate on something you obviously have no understanding about. None of the guns you bring up are in the class of an old English Shotgun as artwork. Lots of plastic on them too.
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    I have the P3AT and its a great little weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Guns were once beautifully engineered works of art with deep blued steel and polished wood grained furniture. Then along came aluminum and, once they figured out how to keep parts from cracking, they sold like crazy - usually for a higher price. Then came plastic, and I just had to hang my head - retails for the same as before.

    I suppose I'm just a neanderthal who misses the beauty, engineering, and ruggedness that once was.
    So then where's your hate for Glock? Springfield? Magpul?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Guns were once beautifully engineered works of art with deep blued steel and polished wood grained furniture. Then along came aluminum and, once they figured out how to keep parts from cracking, they sold like crazy - usually for a higher price. Then came plastic, and I just had to hang my head - retails for the same as before.

    I suppose I'm just a neanderthal who misses the beauty, engineering, and ruggedness that once was.
    You can thank mass production and the EPA for the loss of Hand Crafted, Deep European Blued guns. OR you can do some research and loacte a gunsmith who builds fine shooting arms.
    Of course we'd be burdened by you, complaining how expensive it's become to buy a custom firearm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    So then where's your hate for Glock? Springfield? Magpul?
    He's a KelTec denier, due to lack of a .gov contract. DON'T tell him the Springfield XD series is a re-stamped Croatian gun
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