Roommate on probation with my firearms in apartment?

[ipleadda2nd]

Great responses guys!

I was thinking of putting the majority of guns and ammo offsite. And keep one handgun around for protection. That way worse case I loose one gun and not everything else. Especially all those 30 rounders that are irreplaceable in CO. I think that's what I'll do for a bit and see how things go.

With the new laws how would I store some guns at a friend's place without doing a transfer for each? I suppose bring my own safe that only I know the combo to?

[Great-Kazoo]

Great responses guys!

I was thinking of putting the majority of guns and ammo offsite. And keep one handgun around for protection. That way worse case I loose one gun and not everything else. Especially all those 30 rounders that are irreplaceable in CO. I think that's what I'll do for a bit and see how things go.

With the new laws how would I store some guns at a friend's place without doing a transfer for each? I suppose bring my own safe that only I know the combo to?

Maintain possession. Off site for more than 72 hrs is not maintaining possession.

Your choice , but you're enabling an Alcoholic who has now diminished your right to own firearms. Better to keep off site than run a risk, is bullshit.

[hurley842002]

I'm with Jim, this whole thing sounds absolutely ridiculous. If I knew I was planning on moving at some point anyway, I'd tell the room mate and the alcoholic, to pound sand. It's likely that since the girlfriend isn't even on the lease, the lease is being violated by her moving in (sorry if this was already mentioned, didn't read all posts). Is this poor decision maker really that important, you are willing to risk and or give up your personal freedoms?

[kidicarus13]

Great responses guys!

I was thinking of putting the majority of guns and ammo offsite. And keep one handgun around for protection. That way worse case I loose one gun and not everything else.

No, the worst case is you get charged and convicted of a felony and can't own any guns. If you are to get charged it won't matter if it's one gun or an "arsenal" of guns.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm with Jim, this whole thing sounds absolutely ridiculous. If I knew I was planning on moving at some point anyway, I'd tell the room mate and the alcoholic, to pound sand. It's likely that since the girlfriend isn't even on the lease, the lease is being violated by her moving in (sorry if this was already mentioned, didn't read all posts). Is this poor decision maker really that important, you are willing to risk and or give up your personal freedoms?

Thank You

No, the worst case is you get charged and convicted of a felony and can't own any guns. If you are to get charged it won't matter if it's one gun or an "arsenal" of guns.

After all the debates we've had about compromise, sensible gun laws, The AG's taking away rights one law at a time, etc. The OP is more than willing to forfeit his rights, for as he puts it a "short time". If that's his stance so be it.
Clearly there's a lot the OP is failing or unwilling to discuss about the soon to be new tenant. It sounds like this new addition is more than a casual fall off the wagon drunk (is there any other kind) who is bringing a lot of drama and potential legal issues with her.


Whats that saying?

No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.

[ANADRILL]

Rent a storage building for a short time, and move the safe there. I would get a smaller safe for the pistol.

[nisils14]

So the DUI chick is going to move in. Regarding the wording of the sub-lease. WHY NOT make sure there is a fail safe to avoid a drama drawn scene, because she had ANOTHER relapse (oh i am sorry please give me a chance) smashed up the boyfriends room. Unless the 2 guys want to have local LE remove her (unlikely) What recourse do they / he have to get this time bomb off the premises ?

In regard to his firearms and other acc. IF as in an early post as the OP inquired. There is a need to remove said items. WHY THE HELL IS SHE EVEN ALLOWED TO LIVE THERE? I know the OP is looking for another place. Until then, why have that much more of an uncomfortable living scene than needed? Why put the OP's accessibility of personal protection out of reach, to prevent Ms DUI from getting them.
Curious, will there be access to alcohol in the dwelling? Not talking beer, wine, vodka. I'm talking mouth wash, furniture polish, cooking wines etc. Unless there is going to be a complete limit to anything harmful, the removal of guns, is meaningless.
Having dealt with ALCOHOLICS (which this woman is) one would be surprised what lengths they go to for a buzz.

This isn't so much about compromising as it is protecting one's personal interests and in this case, one's right. It doesn't have to be a firearm collection, even if it was anything I would hold of value, it's in my best interest to make sure it's safe. I'm not making way for a parolee, because that person is a parolee, I'm not going have any trust in them. My motivation is to keep myself out of harm's way, whether that be judicial and/or physical. Again it's in my best personal interest. Since this potentially involves law enforcement, why mix yourself up in roommate drama when as a 3rd person individual can be almost avoided in every circumstance. There's no point in concerning ones self in what happens to a relationship that they're not even part of. Especially since OP has notion to move out anyway, moving out will just be much simpler when you have less stuff to move. Again, that is just my mindset. I'm not making concessions, I'm not giving up my rights, I'm not compromising my personal beliefs. This simply is drama that could get potentially worse and if one doesn't need to get involved. I sure as hell would opt out faster than anything on this planet.

[Great-Kazoo]

This isn't so much about compromising as it is protecting one's personal interests and in this case, one's right.
Again, that is just my mindset. I'm not making concessions, I'm not giving up my rights, I'm not compromising my personal beliefs. This simply is drama that could get potentially worse and if one doesn't need to get involved. I sure as hell would opt out faster than anything on this planet.

Moving ones items off site, just in case, is compromising. The OP has a gun safe. He mentioned neither the room mate, or GF have an interest in the guns.
How much of a threat is this problem child, that he feels off site storage is best, OR necessary? Perhaps more attention should be paid to securing kitchen knives and other sharp instruments.

[rbeau30]

He mentioned neither the room mate, or GF have an interest in the guns.

Yet.... Things change when alcohol (or any other addictive drug) is involved or someone who wants it is trying to get it.


ipleadda2nd,

I don't know your situation, but I am leaning towards the "no good dead goes unpunished". That being said this is in no way putting down your buddy and his S.O..

There are just so many ways this can go bad for you and all you are doing is trying to help someone out. Don't forget that many issues get that "domestic" tag on it, and you don't want that. Something could be going as smoothly as you would expect it to be, and whamo, all of a sudden you are trying to break up a fight or something and someone says you did something and you didn't. Now you are hemmed up. I know how the system works, I have been through it and have had troops that have been through it.

[nisils14]

Moving ones items off site, just in case, is compromising. The OP has a gun safe. He mentioned neither the room mate, or GF have an interest in the guns.
How much of a threat is this problem child, that he feels off site storage is best, OR necessary? Perhaps more attention should be paid to securing kitchen knives and other sharp instruments.

I wouldn't think so, again I'm projecting my personal interest. Agree to disagree. That's the thing, the parolee is the variable, not him or his firearms. Why even make yourself a target to begin with? More attention should be paid to "How can I remove myself from this situation faster"